Mom age 25, has 6 kids, all born with a cocktail of drugs in their system

[earlycuyler]

What should the law do about a 25-year-old drug addict who has had six children so far and shows no signs of stopping either having children or using drugs.

This is not a hypothetical situation.

The law seems impotent to protect the children she is carrying. Am I wrong? I hope I'm wrong.

We call those "vunables" here. They constitute 99.9% of Shela Jackson Lee's (a carpet bagger from New York) constituents. Despite what rabid leftist who support murder factories blather on about, there are many organizations who can and do take thees children in when CPS removes them. Its best to remove the kids, and many states do. By the way Rdean, Jerry Fallwell cared for many drug addicted children as did, and do other "right wing" organizations. All the left has done is planned Parenthood and food stamps.

 

[WillowTree]

What should the law do about a 25-year-old drug addict who has had six children so far and shows no signs of stopping either having children or using drugs.

This is not a hypothetical situation.

The law seems impotent to protect the children she is carrying. Am I wrong? I hope I'm wrong.

give her some more food stamps and welfare.. and lawd whatever you do don't drug test her.

 

[earlycuyler]

You're really going to C/P a bullshit link slamming republicans in defense of a crack whore poisoning her kids?

Isn't this a hypothetical thread...?

Maybe we could discuss abortions and fathers who impregnate their daughters...

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[editec]

shades of 'a handmaiden's tale'

Science fiction?
Margaret Atwood.

More like SOCIAL science fiction, of course.

A superior handlefor this kind of novel is, I think, speculative fiction.

 

[Claudette]

Sounds to me like the kids should be taken away and Mom needs to be kicked out the fucking door sans her welfare money.

Hypothetical?? Don't know about that as I watched a show on 60 minutes about 10yrs ago that dealt with crack moms and the kids they have. These kids cost the taxpayers hundreds of thousand of dollars just to deliver. They are hooked on drugs at birth and are in withdrawal at birth. This shit goes on all the time.

Not pretty and very expensive to the taxpayers because you know this peice of shit female ain't paying for it. You and I are.

Sterilization, you bet. That way she can go kill herself with drugs and not take any of her kids with her.

 

[Ravi]

Offer to adopt the children. Otherwise, it is none of your business or ours.

 

[ba1614]

It's our fault, she didn't receive enough hugs and we should all feel sorry for the whore.

 

[Ravi]

This thread reminded me of a report yesterday on NPR about forced sterilization.

A Brutal Chapter In North Carolina's Eugenics Past : NPR

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's OK. Republicans only care about kids before their born. They tend to lose interest shortly after birth.

ok, so what are the Democrats going to do here?......give her a bigger monthly stipend?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

You're really going to C/P a bullshit link slamming republicans in defense of a crack whore poisoning her kids?

Isn't this a hypothetical thread...?

Maybe we could discuss abortions and fathers who impregnate their daughters...

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[daveman]

Offer to adopt the children. Otherwise, it is none of your business or ours.

So much for the fabled liberal compassion.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Happens all over, folks.
You should see how thrilled and happy the nurses in the delivery room are when they have to deliver one of those chilluns, especially when the mother decided to get high for the holiday but instead goes directly into labor. Gotta detox mother and baby. Happy days are here again.

 

[Amelia]

In NJ, if a new mother tests positive in the hospital, the infant is taken away immediately. She has one year to get into treatment and get clean. If she fails, the child is put up for ADOPTION - no more foster care. I can't imagine anyone going through that more than once, let alone six times, but I'm sure it has happened.

its possible there are some very rare cases of woman losing 6 consecutive infants to addiction ..but her story reads as if its some epidemic and these children are still with the parent and nothing was done..and I say there are some holes in this story

The children are not with the parent.

Four of the children were in foster care. Then a fifth child was born. That baby was adopted. Then the adoptive parents learned about the four siblings and took them all in.

The birth mother recently had the sixth child, who was born with 8 different toxic substances in her system. The sixth child has also been removed from the mother.

The problem is that no one seems willing or able to stop her from continuing to poison the babies she continues to create.

 

[Ravi]

In NJ, if a new mother tests positive in the hospital, the infant is taken away immediately. She has one year to get into treatment and get clean. If she fails, the child is put up for ADOPTION - no more foster care. I can't imagine anyone going through that more than once, let alone six times, but I'm sure it has happened.

its possible there are some very rare cases of woman losing 6 consecutive infants to addiction ..but her story reads as if its some epidemic and these children are still with the parent and nothing was done..and I say there are some holes in this story

The children are not with the parent.

Four of the children were in foster care. Then a fifth child was born. That baby was adopted. Then the adoptive parents learned about the four siblings and took them all in.

The birth mother recently had the sixth child, who was born with 8 different toxic substances in her system. The sixth child has also been removed from the mother.

The problem is that no one seems willing or able to stop her from continuing to poison the babies she continues to create.

I sure hope you aren't planning on murdering her.

 

[Amelia]

In NJ, if a new mother tests positive in the hospital, the infant is taken away immediately. She has one year to get into treatment and get clean. If she fails, the child is put up for ADOPTION - no more foster care. I can't imagine anyone going through that more than once, let alone six times, but I'm sure it has happened.

its possible there are some very rare cases of woman losing 6 consecutive infants to addiction ..but her story reads as if its some epidemic and these children are still with the parent and nothing was done..and I say there are some holes in this story

The children are not with the parent.

Four of the children were in foster care. Then a fifth child was born. That baby was adopted. Then the adoptive parents learned about the four siblings and took them all in.

The birth mother recently had the sixth child, who was born with 8 different toxic substances in her system. The sixth child has also been removed from the mother.

The problem is that no one seems willing or able to stop her from continuing to poison the babies she continues to create.

I sure hope you aren't planning on murdering her.

Would you please think for a moment about real people and not about the points you can score on an internet forum.


I'm thinking about the heartbreak of the parents who have opened their home to these babies and who then learn that their children's biological mother continues to create more siblings, more drug-poisoned little lives, and they are powerless to save their adopted children's siblings from hurt.

If your children were poisoned by someone, and you knew she continued to poison more children without the law seeming to be able to stop her ...



The adoptive parents and apparently the social workers just have to stand by and let the mother keep making babies for them to have to try to heal as well as they can ......

 

[Ravi]

The children are not with the parent.

Four of the children were in foster care. Then a fifth child was born. That baby was adopted. Then the adoptive parents learned about the four siblings and took them all in.

The birth mother recently had the sixth child, who was born with 8 different toxic substances in her system. The sixth child has also been removed from the mother.

The problem is that no one seems willing or able to stop her from continuing to poison the babies she continues to create.

I sure hope you aren't planning on murdering her.

Would you please think for a moment about real people and not about the points you can score on an internet forum.


I'm thinking about the heartbreak of the parents who have opened their home to these babies and who then learn that their children's biological mother continues to create more siblings, more drug-poisoned little lives, and they are powerless to save their adopted children's siblings from hurt.

If your children were poisoned by someone, and you knew she continued to poison more children without the law seeming to be able to stop her ...



The adoptive parents and apparently the social workers just have to stand by and let the mother keep making babies for them to have to try to heal as well as they can ......

The price of liberty seems to be too much for you. It is sad but there is nothing you can do about it. And that is a good thing in the overall scheme of things. Sucks for the kids, sure, but it would suck for everyone if a government agency got to decide who is allowed to reproduce.

 

[Clementine]

bull crap..if a woman had 6 children born with drugs in her system and this was known the courts they would insist on drug treatment,drug testing to keep custody of the children..things may slip through the cracks but not 6 children born with drugs in their system with no intervention, something is wrong with this story

Sadly, this story is common. I worked in a hospital for years and we had a duty to report any suspected child abuse. I've seen babies born addicted to drugs, I've seen drugged out parents come in with their children. We report it, a social worker follows up. They usually contact the person and make an appointment, then the parent is put on one of their programs if they deem it necessary. One program to prevent child neglect meant a social worker went to the home and went over things with the parent, such as feeding the child 3 times a day, getting them up for school and bathing them, etc. Of course, the parents already know what they are supposed to do, but as soon as they take their drugs or drink alcohol, they just don't care anymore and the children are on their own.

I've seen some horror stories and have complained loudly when we would see the same children all the time and it was always neglect. I was told that once the people are "in the system", rarely are the children taken away. I've seen parents put in these useless jokes they call programs for neglect, abuse, drug/alcohol addiction, pornography addiction, child endangerment, etc. and it's all a waste of time, but the state can claim they've done everything possible and spend a pile of money in the process. It's never until a child is seriously injured or killed that they get serious about dealing with it, but it's too late then.

Welfare recipients are the most likely, in my experience, to have these problems. It's just the way it is, so don't yell at me because I am conveying what I observed in 30 years. I knew who was on welfare by the insurance information. Used to call it Title 19. The welfare parents are the ones who likely smoke, drink and do drugs. But, since they are already under the government's wing, they tend to spend more money on these useless programs instead of taking prudent action, like removing the children from the home. It sounds all compassionate to say they want to keep families together, but why in the hell do you want to keep innocent children with an abusive or addicted parent? Non-welfare people were treated much differently. A kid with a bruise on his leg was removed from the home, then the matter was investigated. Turned out the kid hurt his leg in baseball practice, but the state traumatized him for a week by placing him in foster care while they figured that out.

If people are in the system, it's like the government coddles them no matter what happens. I've had many conversation with other nurses and doctors over the years about the disparity in how people are treated by government and how the children lose. The government claims to want to help kids, but end up doing more harm in the long run. I find that is the case with most government programs.

omg are you deluded...

No, I'm not. It takes a lot for the state to intervene and take children away from some of these people. They do put people in the programs I mentioned and they are jokes. Their idea of monitoring the situation is to make scheduled visits, which allows parents time to clean the house and throw out the beer bottles or whatever. Maybe you should try spending time working with the system. If you did, you'd see how truly fucked up most government programs are. They do a lot of things that sound good, but tend to make the problem worse. Every government program is designed to spend as much money as possible and usually favors their buddies, like unions, to solve the problem. There is no oversight and when the program doesn't work, it doesn't get eliminated, they just add more useless programs on top of it. There is little oversight and they never boost of success of any program, just the need to increase spending for it.

Work in the trenches for a while and watch how it really goes. If you sit on the sidelines and listen to the talking points, you'll be clueless.

 

[Clementine]

This thread reminded me of a report yesterday on NPR about forced sterilization.

A Brutal Chapter In North Carolina's Eugenics Past : NPR

Obama's science czar wants to put sterilization agents in our drinking water to control the population. I'm sure this case will be used as an argument for that because liberals see all people as being only as smart as the most ignorant among us.

 

[Clementine]

What should the law do about a 25-year-old drug addict who has had six children so far and shows no signs of stopping either having children or using drugs.

This is not a hypothetical situation.

The law seems impotent to protect the children she is carrying. Am I wrong? I hope I'm wrong.

give her some more food stamps and welfare.. and lawd whatever you do don't drug test her.

That is exactly how government handles it. Many babies are born drug addicted and many of those parents continue to raise the kid and have more, which results in a bigger welfare check. Nice to know our tax dollars are enabling drug abuse and child abuse.

The parent should be arrested for child endangerment and the children taken to foster care. I don't see that happen until a child is seriously hurt or killed. It's insane. I think states vary on how this is handled. I am in a fairly liberal state and idiots are running the place.

 

[Sarah G]

In NJ, if a new mother tests positive in the hospital, the infant is taken away immediately. She has one year to get into treatment and get clean. If she fails, the child is put up for ADOPTION - no more foster care. I can't imagine anyone going through that more than once, let alone six times, but I'm sure it has happened.

its possible there are some very rare cases of woman losing 6 consecutive infants to addiction ..but her story reads as if its some epidemic and these children are still with the parent and nothing was done..and I say there are some holes in this story

The children are not with the parent.

Four of the children were in foster care. Then a fifth child was born. That baby was adopted. Then the adoptive parents learned about the four siblings and took them all in.

The birth mother recently had the sixth child, who was born with 8 different toxic substances in her system. The sixth child has also been removed from the mother.

The problem is that no one seems willing or able to stop her from continuing to poison the babies she continues to create.

I sure hope you aren't planning on murdering her.

I hope not even if the story is fiction.