Mississippi & Louisiana Join Refusal to Honor Same Sex "Marriage"

[Seawytch]

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

If you're simply travelling what difference does it make?

Accidents happen.

Lesbian Sues when Partner Dies Alone

 

[rightwinger]

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

THAT is the question that should have been handled by the court, saying States would have to recognize marriages issued by other States regardless. The State would not have to issue SSM licenses, but would have to recognize out of State ones.

THAT issue was handled by the court. You know that bunch of five unelected judges

No, they skipped that and went full retard on giving a right to people that doesn't exist.

The case had two parts

The first was the applicability of the 14th Amendment
The second was whether states must recognize same sex marriages from other states

The court ruled yes to both

Actually the 1st one rendered the 2nd one moot, but I understand your confusion on complex issues of constitutional law. It comes from letting other people think for you.

Actually, states must still recognize same sex marriages from other states, so it is far from moot

 

[The Rabbi]

states refusing should not be allowed to issue any marriage certificates....for hetros too.....see how long that boycott lasts

That's what's happening. Counties are simply saying "we wont issue marriage certificates period." Watch the fagghaddis start screaming like lttle bitches.

 

[The Rabbi]

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

If you're simply travelling what difference does it make?

Good question

Suppose you are a legally married same sex couple and one of you has parents in a state, lets just call it Texass, that doesn't recognize your marriage

While visiting Texass, your spouse becomes seriously ill and his parents, being from Texass refuse to allow you visitation and insist on making all medical decisions

Then it would suck to be you and maybe you should factor Texas' laws into your decision to go there.

 

[mdk]

states refusing should not be allowed to issue any marriage certificates....for hetros too.....see how long that boycott lasts

That's what's happening. Counties are simply saying "we wont issue marriage certificates period." Watch the fagghaddis start screaming like lttle bitches.

And when they start again be sure to stock up on tissues to dry all your sullen tears.

 

[The Rabbi]

states refusing should not be allowed to issue any marriage certificates....for hetros too.....see how long that boycott lasts

That's what's happening. Counties are simply saying "we wont issue marriage certificates period." Watch the fagghaddis start screaming like lttle bitches.

And when they start again be sure to stock up on tissues to dry all your sullen tears.

They wont. There is no law requiring a state to issue a marriage license.

 

[paddymurphy]

No, he said they might be able to claim that issuing one violates their right to religious freedom, but that whether or not it did so depends.
He wrote, "Factual situations may arise in which the county clerk seeks to delegate the issuance of same-sex marriage licenses due to a religious objection, but every employee also has a religious objection to participating in same-sex-marriage licensure. In that scenario, were a clerk to issue traditional marriage licenses while refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses, it is conceivable that an applicant for a same-sex marriage license may claim a violation of the constitution. If instead, a county clerk chooses to issue no marriage licenses at all, it raises at least two questions. First, a clerk opting to issue no licenses at all may find himself or herself in tension with the requirement under state law that a clerk "shall" issue marriage licenses to conforming applications. TEX. FAM. CODE ANN.§ 2.008(a) (West 2006). A court must balance this statutory duty against the clerk's constitutional rights as well as statutory rights under the Religious Freedom Restoration Acts. Second, a court must also weigh the constitutional right of the applicant to obtain a same-sex marriage license. Such a factually specific inquiry is beyond the scope of what this opinion can answer. In short, county clerks and their employees retain religious freedoms that may provide for certain accommodations of their religious objections to issuing same-sex marriage licenses--or issuing licenses at all, but the strength of any particular accommodation claim depends upon the facts." In other words, "it depends."

He also said he had a team of lawyers to help defend the clerks if they are threatened with legal action for refusing to abide by an unconstitutional law.

Texas as a whole did not concede. Which was my point

So the laws requiring clerks to marry interracial couples was unconstitutional? Weird....

Did it go against a persons religious belief? No.

Apples and oranges.

Stop comparing yourselves to black Americans, it makes you look desperate.

"Did it go against a persons religious belief?" Of course it did. Much of the justification for the ban on interracial marriage was based on a twisted interpretation of the bible.

"Theodore Bilbo was one of Mississippi’s great demagogues. After two non-consecutive terms as governor, Bilbo won a U.S. Senate seat campaigning against “farmer murderers, corrupters of Southern womanhood, [skunks] who steal Gideon Bibles from hotel rooms” and a host of other, equally colorful foes. In a year where just 47 Mississippi voters cast a ballot for a communist candidate, Bilbo railed against a looming communist takeover of the state — and offered himself up as the solution to this red onslaught.For Senator Bilbo, however, racism was more that just an ideology, it was a sincerely held religious belief. In a book entitled Take Your Choice: Separation or Mongrelization, Bilbo wrote that “[p]urity of race is a gift of God . . . . And God, in his infinite wisdom, has so ordained it that when man destroys his racial purity, it can never be redeemed.” Allowing “the blood of the races [to] mix,” according to Bilbo, was a direct attack on the “Divine plan of God.” There “is every reason to believe that miscegenation and amalgamation are sins of man in direct defiance to the will of God.”
When Religious Liberty Was Used To Justify Racism Instead Of Homophobia ThinkProgress

Senator Bilbo sound an awful lot like many commenting here.
There is still a church in Texas that claims that interracial marriage is contrary to the word of God.
http://www.applebybaptistchurch.com/Articles/B.P.& ****** Js..pdf

"First let me be clear; I would witness to a Negro as quickly as I would any other race. I am sorry for using a term they themselves use in this article. However, I am not going to avoid the Scriptures in order to have a Negro in our congregation as many of the brethren do. If a Black couple or family wants to come to our Church they need not expect me to avoid what God says about the Hamite. If an interracial couple (Hamite and Gentile, or Hamite and Jew, etc.) wants to come to our assembly they will need to know I will not be silent about their UN scriptural union just to keep them. It has nothing to do with being prejudiced; it is a matter of the Bible."

Such view were very prevalent in the South at the time Loving was decided. So, if a member of the Appleby Baptist Church is a clerk in Texas, you would support that clerks right to refuse a marriage license to an interracial couple.

Weak

You post this, " Did it go against a persons religious belief? No." I proved you completely and absolutely wrong and that is your response?

 

[paddymurphy]

states refusing should not be allowed to issue any marriage certificates....for hetros too.....see how long that boycott lasts

That's what's happening. Counties are simply saying "we wont issue marriage certificates period." Watch the fagghaddis start screaming like lttle bitches.

And when they start again be sure to stock up on tissues to dry all your sullen tears.

They wont. There is no law requiring a state to issue a marriage license.

Actually, there are state laws that do require that clerks or whoever is in charge of issuing them do so. In Texas the law states that a license "shall" issue. And even if there is discretion in the statute, if that discretion is exercised such that gay couples are not given licenses, that is illegal. You do realize that in about 99% of the country, clerks are issuing licenses without any problem, right?

 

[strollingbones]

on the lesbians denied rights by nurses.....nurses are the most compassionate people on earth...they deal with people in the most miserable human conditions....i just am skeptical

and another thing....

we all die alone

 

[strollingbones]

our backwards republican christian county is issuing ssm licenses.....didnt hear a peep from the clerks..they just did their jobs and went on

 

[The Rabbi]

states refusing should not be allowed to issue any marriage certificates....for hetros too.....see how long that boycott lasts

That's what's happening. Counties are simply saying "we wont issue marriage certificates period." Watch the fagghaddis start screaming like lttle bitches.

And when they start again be sure to stock up on tissues to dry all your sullen tears.

They wont. There is no law requiring a state to issue a marriage license.

Actually, there are state laws that do require that clerks or whoever is in charge of issuing them do so. In Texas the law states that a license "shall" issue. And even if there is discretion in the statute, if that discretion is exercised such that gay couples are not given licenses, that is illegal. You do realize that in about 99% of the country, clerks are issuing licenses without any problem, right?

Quote the statute or shut the fuck up.
States are not required to maintain a program of issuing marriage licenses. Arguably they should never have done that.

 

[The Rabbi]

our backwards republican christian county is issuing ssm licenses.....didnt hear a peep from the clerks..they just did their jobs and went on

Kind of like the clerks processing Jews for transport to Auschwitz. They were just doing their jobs.

 

[strollingbones]

godwins law there rabbi

 

[mdk]

states refusing should not be allowed to issue any marriage certificates....for hetros too.....see how long that boycott lasts

That's what's happening. Counties are simply saying "we wont issue marriage certificates period." Watch the fagghaddis start screaming like lttle bitches.

And when they start again be sure to stock up on tissues to dry all your sullen tears.

They wont. There is no law requiring a state to issue a marriage license.

States tried that same bullshit when they were forced to marry interracial couples. How well did that turn out for them?

 

[strollingbones]

people are dying from ssm...really......do tell me more about that comparison

 

[rightwinger]

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

If you're simply travelling what difference does it make?

Good question

Suppose you are a legally married same sex couple and one of you has parents in a state, lets just call it Texass, that doesn't recognize your marriage

While visiting Texass, your spouse becomes seriously ill and his parents, being from Texass refuse to allow you visitation and insist on making all medical decisions

Then it would suck to be you and maybe you should factor Texas' laws into your decision to go there.

Aren't conservatives heartless?
They don't even want gays to be able to visit family

How bout this one....

You are serving your country in the military and have a same sex spouse. You get stationed in Texass and find the local community services don't recognize your marriage

 

[The Rabbi]

godwins law there rabbi

That's a fail.
Your stupidity is memorialized in my sig line. Congratulations.

 

[The Rabbi]

states refusing should not be allowed to issue any marriage certificates....for hetros too.....see how long that boycott lasts

That's what's happening. Counties are simply saying "we wont issue marriage certificates period." Watch the fagghaddis start screaming like lttle bitches.

And when they start again be sure to stock up on tissues to dry all your sullen tears.

They wont. There is no law requiring a state to issue a marriage license.

States tried that same bullshit when they were forced to marry interracial couples. How well did that turn out for them?

Post the link or shut the fuck up.

 

[rightwinger]

our backwards republican christian county is issuing ssm licenses.....didnt hear a peep from the clerks..they just did their jobs and went on

Kind of like the clerks processing Jews for transport to Auschwitz. They were just doing their jobs.

Rabbi is disgusting scum on so many levels

 

[The Rabbi]

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

If you're simply travelling what difference does it make?

Good question

Suppose you are a legally married same sex couple and one of you has parents in a state, lets just call it Texass, that doesn't recognize your marriage

While visiting Texass, your spouse becomes seriously ill and his parents, being from Texass refuse to allow you visitation and insist on making all medical decisions

Then it would suck to be you and maybe you should factor Texas' laws into your decision to go there.

Aren't conservatives heartless?
They don't even want gays to be able to visit family

How bout this one....

You are serving your country in the military and have a same sex spouse. You get stationed in Texass and find the local community services don't recognize your marriage

Maybe you get abducted by aliens and they dont recognize gay marriage either.
Try something that might actually happen. Dunce.