Mississippi & Louisiana Join Refusal to Honor Same Sex "Marriage"

[JakeStarkey]

Lonestar would refuse an application for an interracial marriage in a heart beat. I know Appleby well. Turn east by north on the road that runs along the underside of the railroad tracks to see the old mill ponds. I think it is the _____ family that has hundreds of beautiful acres out there. They and their son and daughter are wonderful people.

 

[bodecea]

Lonestar, myob, this has been decided.

Ah yes...a RWr.
You should take your own advice.

You should take anyones advice but your own.

When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.

 

[martybegan]

The Constitution rules and not the Bible.

Your interp of the Bible is wrong. Sil, you lost. Get over it. It's done.

I love how progs think this is "over" when Roe V Wade was over 40 years ago, and the abortion debate is still alive and well.

Of course Wade is settled...that's why people march on SCOTUS every year to remind them not to unsettle it.

Several states have hemmed it in on several fronts. Getting an abortion now is not as easy as it was ten years ago (in some states).

It's not settled in a Clausewitzian sense, the conflict that led to the decision is still being fought, with sizable groups of people supporting both sides.

If it was "settled" you wouldn't have the continuing lawsuits and protests you still see today.

Clausewitzian sense?
damn ...cute but far of the mark there is nothing military about the ignorant assholes who want to destroy a woman's right to control her reproductive choices.

Clauswitzian, as in "the reason for the conflict has been resolved." So the end of World War 1 was not a clauswitzian "peace" as the cause of the war, german militarism and expansionism was not resolved. World War 2 resulted in a Clauswitzian peace with Germany, as those causes were removed from the equation.

Thus Roe V Wade is a non-Clauswitzian victory, as the underlying conflict, i.e. the question of abortion rights has not gone away.

And I don't want to "destroy a woman's right to off her fetus" (lets call a spade a spade here), What I don't see is the ability of the federal government to say Alabama can't make abortions illegal.

 

[martybegan]

Marty is the master of settled constitutional law.

You bozo.

Shooo, adults are talking.

yes we are. that does not and cannot include you.

Defending FarkeyStarkey, how white knight of you.

 

[martybegan]

Roe is settled. That abortions are more difficult to get is a good thing, imo. I think 12 weeks as a cut off and only for rape, incest, or the life health of the mother.

If it settled why is there still a considerable movement to overturn it?

It's in force, its not settled. To be settled an amendment would have to be passed to actually put it in the document, not as part of an overturnable decision. And even then it wouldn't be settled.

Citizens United is settled- even though there is a considerable movement to overturn it.

An amendment would not 'settle' the issue- it just means that fewer people would disagree- there will always be disagreement.

To this day- the issue of 'mixed race marriage' is not settled- there are still people who are against mixed race marriage.

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

"Settled" means the underlying conflict has been resolved. Look a few posts up to my example on the aftermath of WWI vs. the aftermath of WW2 as an example of resolved conflict vs. unresolved conflict.

And your example is an exaggeration to be sure. The thing is there are tons of people in this country, and they happened to be clustered together, that think abortion should be illegal, and marriage should be between a man and a woman. There are far far far far fewer who want to go back to miscegenation laws, and fewer than that who actively support such things.

 

[martybegan]

If it settled why is there still a considerable movement to overturn it?

It's in force, its not settled. To be settled an amendment would have to be passed to actually put it in the document, not as part of an overturnable decision. And even then it wouldn't be settled.

Citizens United is settled- even though there is a considerable movement to overturn it.

An amendment would not 'settle' the issue- it just means that fewer people would disagree- there will always be disagreement.

To this day- the issue of 'mixed race marriage' is not settled- there are still people who are against mixed race marriage.

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

 

[rightwinger]

Citizens United is settled- even though there is a considerable movement to overturn it.

An amendment would not 'settle' the issue- it just means that fewer people would disagree- there will always be disagreement.

To this day- the issue of 'mixed race marriage' is not settled- there are still people who are against mixed race marriage.

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

 

[martybegan]

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

THAT is the question that should have been handled by the court, saying States would have to recognize marriages issued by other States regardless. The State would not have to issue SSM licenses, but would have to recognize out of State ones.

 

[The Rabbi]

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

If you're simply travelling what difference does it make?

 

[EatMorChikin]

Yo, love is in the air! You think the Republicans are going to rollover and die?

*facepalm*

Shut up. SHUT UP. SHUT THE **** UP! The idiot fringe like yourself do not speak for the Republican party.

I think he is a lefty posing as a conservative.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Citizens United is settled- even though there is a considerable movement to overturn it.

An amendment would not 'settle' the issue- it just means that fewer people would disagree- there will always be disagreement.

To this day- the issue of 'mixed race marriage' is not settled- there are still people who are against mixed race marriage.

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

How does a law letting businesses refuse to serve blacks affect you if you're not black?

 

[strollingbones]

states refusing should not be allowed to issue any marriage certificates....for hetros too.....see how long that boycott lasts

 

[rightwinger]

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

THAT is the question that should have been handled by the court, saying States would have to recognize marriages issued by other States regardless. The State would not have to issue SSM licenses, but would have to recognize out of State ones.

THAT issue was handled by the court. You know that bunch of five unelected judges

 

[NYcarbineer]

states refusing should not be allowed to issue any marriage certificates....for hetros too.....see how long that boycott lasts

They'll lose a lawsuit in a heartbeat if they give an opposite couple a marriage license and turn down a same sex couple.

 

[rightwinger]

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

If you're simply travelling what difference does it make?

Good question

Suppose you are a legally married same sex couple and one of you has parents in a state, lets just call it Texass, that doesn't recognize your marriage

While visiting Texass, your spouse becomes seriously ill and his parents, being from Texass refuse to allow you visitation and insist on making all medical decisions

 

[martybegan]

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

How does a law letting businesses refuse to serve blacks affect you if you're not black?

Exactly.

 

[martybegan]

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

Well, if you are a legally married same sex couple and you travel to that state, you are no longer married

That affects you

THAT is the question that should have been handled by the court, saying States would have to recognize marriages issued by other States regardless. The State would not have to issue SSM licenses, but would have to recognize out of State ones.

THAT issue was handled by the court. You know that bunch of five unelected judges

No, they skipped that and went full retard on giving a right to people that doesn't exist.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Marty is the master of settled constitutional law.

You bozo.

Shooo, adults are talking.

yes we are. that does not and cannot include you.

Defending FarkeyStarkey, how white knight of you.

Shush, child, the adults are talking.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Roe is settled. That abortions are more difficult to get is a good thing, imo. I think 12 weeks as a cut off and only for rape, incest, or the life health of the mother.

If it settled why is there still a considerable movement to overturn it?

It's in force, its not settled. To be settled an amendment would have to be passed to actually put it in the document, not as part of an overturnable decision. And even then it wouldn't be settled.

Citizens United is settled- even though there is a considerable movement to overturn it.

An amendment would not 'settle' the issue- it just means that fewer people would disagree- there will always be disagreement.

To this day- the issue of 'mixed race marriage' is not settled- there are still people who are against mixed race marriage.

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

"Settled" means the underlying conflict has been resolved. Look a few posts up to my example on the aftermath of WWI vs. the aftermath of WW2 as an example of resolved conflict vs. unresolved conflict.

And your example is an exaggeration to be sure. The thing is there are tons of people in this country, and they happened to be clustered together, that think abortion should be illegal, and marriage should be between a man and a woman. There are far far far far fewer who want to go back to miscegenation laws, and fewer than that who actively support such things.

And those numbers will shrink for the same reason the racialists did. They will be dying out. The millennials have made it quite clear that they have no time for social con far right's stupidities.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Citizens United is settled- even though there is a considerable movement to overturn it.

An amendment would not 'settle' the issue- it just means that fewer people would disagree- there will always be disagreement.

To this day- the issue of 'mixed race marriage' is not settled- there are still people who are against mixed race marriage.

The number of people who are against mixed raced marriage so much they would ban it via government action is tiny enough that we could call the matter "settled". Even if people don't like it, most of them don't want to do anything about it except sneer at it and maybe disown their kids if one of them ever enters into one.

For abortion, you have a sizable portion of our country that would LOVE to overturn Roe v. Wade (including ironically, Roe).

A guy walks up to the beautiful blonde and asks her- "Would you have sex with me for 1,000,000 dollars?"
She hesitates and thinks about it a moment and says- "well okay"
"Would you have sex with me for $20.00?"
The woman errupts with outrage- and screams "What do you take me for?"
The man answers- "We already established that, we are just haggling on the price now.

So your "settled" is just a matter of the arguable size of the minority opinion- which just coincidentally coincides with your opinion.

abortion and gay marriage are best handled by the states so you can move rather than have the majority viewpoint shoved down your throat. American is supposed to be about freedom, not mob rule.

How is either someone's abortion being shoved down your throat? Or someone's marriage?

How does some other State banning abortion or banning same sex marriage affect you if you don't live in that State?

It is simply a case of MYOB, Marty.