Men have no rights when it comes to womens health concerning

[Unkotare]

abortions. No rights even if the male is married to the female and wants a baby. A women should make it known to men that she is not ready or doesn't' want kids before marriage and a women has a choice to change her mind anytime she wants.

Of course men have rights. Don’t be absurd.

After the birth, not before.

Before, during, and after.

 

[Anathema]

And you don't seem to understand that there are better ways of doing things.

You make the mistake of trying to teach the unwashed masses why something is wrong whereas I simply make them understand the consequence of doing it. Your way takes longer, is less effective and leads to people questioning already determined policies.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And you don't seem to understand that there are better ways of doing things.

You make the mistake of trying to teach the unwashed masses why something is wrong whereas I simply make them understand the consequence of doing it. Your way takes longer, is less effective and leads to people questioning already determined policies.

Your way is a quick fix that leads to future problems.

You can hit a kid to make them behave, but when they become adults, they're more likely to turn that violence on others.

Is that a good solution to a problem? How does making the problem WORSE for a quick fix become a suitable solution?

 

[Lysistrata]

This has nothing to do with the fact that government cannot compel a woman to give birth against her will, including compelling her through force of law to obtain the ‘consent’ of her husband when seeking to terminate her pregnancy.

I believe both the Government and her Husbabd should have that power; along with the Right and Duty to terminate her life if she finds a way to end the pregnancy.

You are so full of shit, to the point of threatening violence. Your misogyny is of a very pure strain. Neither the man nor the government has the right for force a woman into what amounts to slavery.

 

[Anathema]

You are so full of shit, to the point of threatening violence. Your misogyny is of a very pure strain. Neither the man nor the government has the right for force a woman into what amounts to slavery.

No. To the point of using violence, in my own relationship. That’s how you know a truly pure strain of misogyny. It’s only in the last century that you women have been granted a place at the table of society and you’ve done nothing but piss on the table and shit in the salad bowl.

 

[Anathema]

Your way is a quick fix that leads to future problems.

You can hit a kid to make them behave, but when they become adults, they're more likely to turn that violence on others.

Is that a good solution to a problem? How does making the problem WORSE for a quick fix become a suitable solution?

You see that as a problem. I call that Proper Discipline.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

abortions. No rights even if the male is married to the female and wants a baby. A women should make it known to men that she is not ready or doesn't' want kids before marriage and a women has a choice to change her mind anytime she wants.

Troll much?

 

[gipper]

Well, men have an opt out. It's called not impregnating a woman.

You do realize the woman has that same opt out, right? That’s why I’m against abortion except for cases of rape. They made a choice. They made a child. Now make a life with that child, or let someone else do so.

How are you going to make sure that the woman does not go through nine months of pregnancy, perhaps dangerous, vomiting, and does not bleed or suffer pain in the birthing process, and the father will be right there to comfort her, and accept the infant, and take it away if she does not want it.

Sorry, men just don't go through pregnancy and childbirth or risk their lives in any way. At most, they spend five minutes having a feel-good time. Never is there any risk to their lives, health, or any interference with their daily lives. No blood of their's is shed.

Why would any woman have unprotected sex, when pregnancy is so dangerous? Are they dumb? In addition, why should such dumb women be allowed to play God with their fetus’ life?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Your way is a quick fix that leads to future problems.

You can hit a kid to make them behave, but when they become adults, they're more likely to turn that violence on others.

Is that a good solution to a problem? How does making the problem WORSE for a quick fix become a suitable solution?

You see that as a problem. I call that Proper Discipline.

Yes, I have no doubt you see physical violence as "Proper Discipline". But I also know that you're causing more problems than you're solving.

That you don't see this, is part of the problem.

 

[Dragonlady]

Well, when there's a child, someone needs to look after it. And that costs money. And a woman can't work and effectively look after a child.

You want parents to be forced to stay together for 18 years. That's clearly the wrong "solution" to the problem.

The best solution would be for both people to keep their pants on until they’re ready to have children. Since our society refuses to enforce that expectation, we end up in this mess.

Society used to enforce these expectations in the days before reliable birth control. Women were shamed and humiliated if they were pregnant out of wedlock with no husbands. The unwed mother’s homes were filled as were the orphanages. Shotgun weddings were common.

People stopped doing that shit BECAUSE IT DIDN’T WORK.

You seriously need to be taken out behind the barn and horsewhipped. It’s a punishment applicable to the stupid ideas you promote.

 

[Lysistrata]

Well, men have an opt out. It's called not impregnating a woman.

You do realize the woman has that same opt out, right? That’s why I’m against abortion except for cases of rape. They made a choice. They made a child. Now make a life with that child, or let someone else do so.

How are you going to make sure that the woman does not go through nine months of pregnancy, perhaps dangerous, vomiting, and does not bleed or suffer pain in the birthing process, and the father will be right there to comfort her, and accept the infant, and take it away if she does not want it.

Sorry, men just don't go through pregnancy and childbirth or risk their lives in any way. At most, they spend five minutes having a feel-good time. Never is there any risk to their lives, health, or any interference with their daily lives. No blood of their's is shed.

Why would any woman have unprotected sex, when pregnancy is so dangerous? Are they dumb? In addition, why should such dumb women be allowed to play God with their fetus’ life?

First, birth-control methods have what they call "failure rates. Look it up. The sex was not necessarily "unprotected." Second, it is not "playing God" to have an abortion. That depends on what religious choices the woman makes.
THIRD: THIS IS ALL NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS. Mind your own sex and reproductive life, and the rest of us will mind ours.

 

[Dragonlady]

What make you think she wants him as a husband, forced to marry, no way. Women fought hard for their rights and we are not going to let them be taken away.

What makes you think I care what she thinks or wants. If she didn’t want to potentially marry him, she shouldn’t have been in bed with him.

Don’t worry Kavanaugh and whoever replaces RBG will help Conservatives undo the improper “women’s rights” debacle; or we’ll undo it by force if necessary.

No he won’t. None of your hair brained ideas are coming to fruition so go take your meds.

 

[Penelope]

A baby is what a fetus becomes after birth, and no i'm not a baby killer. What else do you have

what if you are wrong?......

because you are completely misinformed....

What am I misinformed about?

 

[gipper]

Well, men have an opt out. It's called not impregnating a woman.

You do realize the woman has that same opt out, right? That’s why I’m against abortion except for cases of rape. They made a choice. They made a child. Now make a life with that child, or let someone else do so.

How are you going to make sure that the woman does not go through nine months of pregnancy, perhaps dangerous, vomiting, and does not bleed or suffer pain in the birthing process, and the father will be right there to comfort her, and accept the infant, and take it away if she does not want it.

Sorry, men just don't go through pregnancy and childbirth or risk their lives in any way. At most, they spend five minutes having a feel-good time. Never is there any risk to their lives, health, or any interference with their daily lives. No blood of their's is shed.

Why would any woman have unprotected sex, when pregnancy is so dangerous? Are they dumb? In addition, why should such dumb women be allowed to play God with their fetus’ life?

First, birth-control methods have what they call "failure rates. Look it up. The sex was not necessarily "unprotected." Second, it is not "playing God" to have an abortion. That depends on what religious choices the woman makes.
THIRD: THIS IS ALL NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS. Mind your own sex and reproductive life, and the rest of us will mind ours.

BS as expected. You cite failure rates which are minuscule and entirely off topic.

Second you claim a woman’s right to murder her child without legal consequences, is not playing God. Logically and obviously it is. Think before posting.

Thirdly you cite the long discredited propaganda by the abortion industry, that the father has no say in the life or death decision of his child. Very convenient no? Entirely illogical.

 

[Dragonlady]

She found religion and in the next several years she may lose it. Her opinion is just that , her opinion. My opinion is based on equal rights.

Most jews think a baby is a human when they take their first breath, on their own, a cry. How about that. Jesus was a jew , I bet he felt the same way. There is an abortion curse in the OT.

Equal rights? I can't believe you're saying that with a straight face. If you were truly for equal rights, you would be pro-life. You wouldn't be trampling all over the the most basic right of all, the right to life… For ALL human beings.

Again, you're ignoring all of her points that cannot be denied. Teaching kids that sex is completely separate from its life given potential, teaching kids that sex is only about having fun, encouraging them to be sexually active and just throwing a condom at them has not worked. Unless you consider 60 million abortions a success. Not to mention all the other issues that go along with your failed philosophy.

It is you who are wrong on every level. All you talk about are the rights of the fetus. It doesn’t have rights. It doesn’t have opinions. It’s not a person.

There are many more reasons to have sex that have nothing to do with procreation or “fun” and much to do with our good health and well being.

A healthy sex life is important to both physical and mental health and well being. It strengthens the relationship and bonds between a couple.

Look at the abortion statistics. Poor women are getting abortions. Poor women who are in a relationship and already have at least one child.

It’s not the free living party girls, or teenagers. It’s adult women who can’t afford to lose their jobs because they’re pregnant.

The right rejects this image over and over and tries to sell the idea that the abortion rate is fueled by hedonism when in reality is it fueled by Republican policies towards the working poor.

 

[miketx]

abortions. No rights even if the male is married to the female and wants a baby. A women should make it known to men that she is not ready or doesn't' want kids before marriage and a women has a choice to change her mind anytime she wants.

Murderer.

 

[gipper]

She found religion and in the next several years she may lose it. Her opinion is just that , her opinion. My opinion is based on equal rights.

Most jews think a baby is a human when they take their first breath, on their own, a cry. How about that. Jesus was a jew , I bet he felt the same way. There is an abortion curse in the OT.

Equal rights? I can't believe you're saying that with a straight face. If you were truly for equal rights, you would be pro-life. You wouldn't be trampling all over the the most basic right of all, the right to life… For ALL human beings.

Again, you're ignoring all of her points that cannot be denied. Teaching kids that sex is completely separate from its life given potential, teaching kids that sex is only about having fun, encouraging them to be sexually active and just throwing a condom at them has not worked. Unless you consider 60 million abortions a success. Not to mention all the other issues that go along with your failed philosophy.

It is you who are wrong on every level. All you talk about are the rights of the fetus. It doesn’t have rights. It doesn’t have opinions. It’s not a person.

There are many more reasons to have sex that have nothing to do with procreation or “fun” and much to do with our good health and well being.

A healthy sex life is important to both physical and mental health and well being. It strengthens the relationship and bonds between a couple.

Look at the abortion statistics. Poor women are getting abortions. Poor women who are in a relationship and already have at least one child.

It’s not the free living party girls, or teenagers. It’s adult women who can’t afford to lose their jobs because they’re pregnant.

The right rejects this image over and over and tries to sell the idea that the abortion rate is fueled by hedonism when in reality is it fueled by Republican policies towards the working poor.

Agreed. Our society needs to protect innocent life. The women you describe need assistance and legal protections during their pregnancy. They can then choose adoption should they and the father approve. Adoption networks which use to exist before the abortionists terminated them, should be reestablished.

 

[Penelope]

What make you think she wants him as a husband, forced to marry, no way. Women fought hard for their rights and we are not going to let them be taken away.

What makes you think I care what she thinks or wants. If she didn’t want to potentially marry him, she shouldn’t have been in bed with him.

Don’t worry Kavanaugh and whoever replaces RBG will help Conservatives undo the improper “women’s rights” debacle; or we’ll undo it by force if necessary.

No he won’t. None of your hair brained ideas are coming to fruition so go take your meds.

Well, men have an opt out. It's called not impregnating a woman.

You do realize the woman has that same opt out, right? That’s why I’m against abortion except for cases of rape. They made a choice. They made a child. Now make a life with that child, or let someone else do so.

How are you going to make sure that the woman does not go through nine months of pregnancy, perhaps dangerous, vomiting, and does not bleed or suffer pain in the birthing process, and the father will be right there to comfort her, and accept the infant, and take it away if she does not want it.

Sorry, men just don't go through pregnancy and childbirth or risk their lives in any way. At most, they spend five minutes having a feel-good time. Never is there any risk to their lives, health, or any interference with their daily lives. No blood of their's is shed.

Why would any woman have unprotected sex, when pregnancy is so dangerous? Are they dumb? In addition, why should such dumb women be allowed to play God with their fetus’ life?

First, birth-control methods have what they call "failure rates. Look it up. The sex was not necessarily "unprotected." Second, it is not "playing God" to have an abortion. That depends on what religious choices the woman makes.
THIRD: THIS IS ALL NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS. Mind your own sex and reproductive life, and the rest of us will mind ours.

BS as expected. You cite failure rates which are minuscule and entirely off topic.

Second you claim a woman’s right to murder her child without legal consequences, is not playing God. Logically and obviously it is. Think before posting.

Thirdly you cite the long discredited propaganda by the abortion industry, that the father has no say in the life or death decision of his child. Very convenient no? Entirely illogical.

You men have no rights over a female's body and her reproduction rights. Wear a condom, then all would be taken care of , except a few mishaps, its about time men take the responsibility instead of women.

 

[Penelope]

abortions. No rights even if the male is married to the female and wants a baby. A women should make it known to men that she is not ready or doesn't' want kids before marriage and a women has a choice to change her mind anytime she wants.

Troll much?

No actually I don't. But apparently you do , what are you doing here is not to add to the debate?

 

[gipper]

What make you think she wants him as a husband, forced to marry, no way. Women fought hard for their rights and we are not going to let them be taken away.

What makes you think I care what she thinks or wants. If she didn’t want to potentially marry him, she shouldn’t have been in bed with him.

Don’t worry Kavanaugh and whoever replaces RBG will help Conservatives undo the improper “women’s rights” debacle; or we’ll undo it by force if necessary.

No he won’t. None of your hair brained ideas are coming to fruition so go take your meds.

You do realize the woman has that same opt out, right? That’s why I’m against abortion except for cases of rape. They made a choice. They made a child. Now make a life with that child, or let someone else do so.

How are you going to make sure that the woman does not go through nine months of pregnancy, perhaps dangerous, vomiting, and does not bleed or suffer pain in the birthing process, and the father will be right there to comfort her, and accept the infant, and take it away if she does not want it.

Sorry, men just don't go through pregnancy and childbirth or risk their lives in any way. At most, they spend five minutes having a feel-good time. Never is there any risk to their lives, health, or any interference with their daily lives. No blood of their's is shed.

Why would any woman have unprotected sex, when pregnancy is so dangerous? Are they dumb? In addition, why should such dumb women be allowed to play God with their fetus’ life?

First, birth-control methods have what they call "failure rates. Look it up. The sex was not necessarily "unprotected." Second, it is not "playing God" to have an abortion. That depends on what religious choices the woman makes.
THIRD: THIS IS ALL NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS. Mind your own sex and reproductive life, and the rest of us will mind ours.

BS as expected. You cite failure rates which are minuscule and entirely off topic.

Second you claim a woman’s right to murder her child without legal consequences, is not playing God. Logically and obviously it is. Think before posting.

Thirdly you cite the long discredited propaganda by the abortion industry, that the father has no say in the life or death decision of his child. Very convenient no? Entirely illogical.

You men have no rights over a female's body and her reproduction rights. Wear a condom, then all would be taken care of , except a few mishaps, its about time men take the responsibility instead of women.

It is not about men’s rights. It is about the rights of the innocent unborn.

Zealots like you are incapable of logically thinking.