McCain is the issue, not Obama

[Chris]

The contrast between Obama's speech tonight and McCain's interview in Time Magazine this week could not have been more stark. Obama outlined his vision for America, and how his life experiences reflect on that vision in brilliant clarity.

In his interview in Time Magazine, McCain comes across as a cranky old man on 5 different medications who is losing it.

We can't afford another mentally deficient president.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The contrast between Obama's speech tonight and McCain's interview in Time Magazine this week could not have been more stark. Obama outlined his vision for America, and how his life experiences reflect on that vision in brilliant clarity.

In his interview in Time Magazine, McCain comes across as a cranky old man on 5 different medications who is losing it.

We can't afford another mentally deficient president.

We can not afford a racist socialist bent on bankrupting this country with more Government programs. A man who counts as his friends terrorists and racists. A man from THE most corrupt political machine in this country. We can not afford Obama as President.

 

[Chris]

We can not afford a racist socialist bent on bankrupting this country with more Government programs. A man who counts as his friends terrorists and racists. A man from THE most corrupt political machine in this country. We can not afford Obama as President.

Do you realize how silly you sound?

How much was your government check this month by the way?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Do you realize how silly you sound?

How much was your government check this month by the way?

You realize how silly you sound? And my RETIREMENT check is none of your business. Nor is my Disability check. Both earned via hard work and sacrifice to this Nation, both covered by Contract of employment.

But then you only think programs that give money to people that did not earn it are ok, right?

 

[Gem]

Just about as silly as someone crying about a man whom the Democratic party hailed as brilliant and wonderful, a man that the Democrat's VP nominee said he would be honored to run with, is a cranky, crazy drug addict simply because he has the audacity to run against their candidate.

 

[Chris]

You realize how silly you sound? And my RETIREMENT check is none of your business. Nor is my Disability check. Both earned via hard work and sacrifice to this Nation, both covered by Contract of employment.

But then you only think programs that give money to people that did not earn it are ok, right?

God bless you for your service, but honestly, stop talking shit about Obama.

This is a guy who worked his way to the top, and then went back to serve his community when he could have gone to work in corporate law and made millions of dollars. He was the President of the Harvard Law Review. Do you know what that means? That means he was the smartest guy at the Harvard Law School. I met a guy who is a federal judge whose daughter just graduated from Harvard Law, and she makes $450,000 a year. She makes more than her father does as a federal judge! Obama could have taken that route, but he chose to go back to his community and help people who had lost their jobs when their plant closed down. Do a little reading outside right wing blogs on Obama. He is a very brilliant and a very good man.

 

[DiveCon]

Just about as silly as someone crying about a man whom the Democratic party hailed as brilliant and wonderful, a man that the Democrat's VP nominee said he would be honored to run with, is a cranky, crazy drug addict simply because he has the audacity to run against their candidate.

and they all loved him when he was against Bush on so many issues
now hes "McSame"

 

[Chris]

and they all loved him when he was against Bush on so many issues
now hes "McSame"

That's because he was telling the truth then. Now he has lost it.

His "agents of intolerence speech" was one of the great speeches in American political history, and he made it right here in Va. Beach.

 

[DiveCon]

That's because he was telling the truth then. Now he has lost it.

His "agents of intolerence speech" was one of the great speeches in American political history, and he made it right here in Va. Beach.

well, lets see you keep up that tone through to Nov
please get it out as far as you possibly can
have you called the Obama campaign to volunteer to do publicity for them?

 

[Ninja]

The Time interview was hilarious.

McCain basically told Obama's mouthpieces to go fuck themselves.

 

[Avatar4321]

God bless you for your service, but honestly, stop talking shit about Obama.

This is a guy who worked his way to the top, and then went back to serve his community when he could have gone to work in corporate law and made millions of dollars. He was the President of the Harvard Law Review. Do you know what that means? That means he was the smartest guy at the Harvard Law School. I met a guy who is a federal judge whose daughter just graduated from Harvard Law, and she makes $450,000 a year. She makes more than her father does as a federal judge! Obama could have taken that route, but he chose to go back to his community and help people who had lost their jobs when their plant closed down. Do a little reading outside right wing blogs on Obama. He is a very brilliant and a very good man.

Where do I begin here.

Being President of the Harvard Law Review has nothing to do with intelligence. It's an elected position. It does not mean he was the smartest guy at harvard law school.

Obama has made money. Can you name one thing Obama has done to improve his community? Heck, Obama had to have money to go to Harvard to begin with.

I've been to law school. I've met hundreds of lawyers. Going to law school and even being an editor of a journal doesn't impress me. Because lawyers are just as inclined to be stupid as anyone else.

Take John Edwards for example. The man is an idiot. But he is good at his job. So good that he made himself wealthy beyond what most people concieve.

Getting through law school simply means he can work hard. Because really that's all it takes.

Does being elected President of a law journal qualify you to be President? I dont think so. I'm not even sure being intelligent qualifies you to be President. I know a man who is absolutely brilliant who I wouldnt want to be President. Heck, I've got a pretty high IQ myself. I wouldnt suggest i am qualified simply on the basis of my intelligence. There are an insane amount of factors that would qualify someone for a position like that.

Heck if we go by scholastic standards, than President Bush was more intelligent than both Al Gore and John Kerry. Yet I have no doubt you supported them while calling the President an idiot.

And honestly, for such a Brilliant man, Obama's preformance has been very lacking. Particularly in issues of judgment.

 

[Red Dawn]

Do you realize how silly you sound?

How much was your government check this month by the way?

LOL

It's always priceless when a Con who lives off of government largesse, complains about government spending and government programs.

 

[Ninja]

LOL

It's always priceless when a Con who lives off of government largesse, complains about government spending and government programs.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

A check for a veteran is a little bit different than a check for a janitor or receptionist at the EPA.

Dumbass.

 

[Red Dawn]

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

A check for a veteran is a little bit different than a check for a janitor or receptionist at the EPA.

Dumbass.

And fuck you you bush loving hack.

Who was it that voted for the greatest expansion of veterans benefits in a generation? Obama.

Who was is that lobbied against the expansion for veterans benefits? They guy you're voting for, McCain.


At any rate, I would think a free market conservative would rather have a tax credit to purchase services on the free market, than some huge government beauracracy that doles out checks.

But cons are famous for their hypocrisy, right?

 

[editec]

and they all loved him when he was against Bush on so many issues
now hes "McSame"

Well... yeah!

They (meaning people who thought bush's administration had been one disasterour policy after the other) liked McCain when he said things that they agreed with about the missteps of the administration

And now?

Now that McCain recanted to most of his former sensible positions? Now that McCain is sounding like a Neo-con who supports all the mistakes of the Bush amdinistration?

Well now.. those same people have lost respect for McCain.

What exactly, would you expect of them?

That they continue to like the new neo-con McCain, the one who flipflopped on so many issues, and whonow supports po
sitions tht they have consistently though foolish?

If there's an inconsistency, here, DiveCon, it is McCain's, not his former admirers.

 

[Ninja]

So lets see Red Dawn - you basically call a retired Marine a welfare queen, and then brag that your candidate voted to increase veterans benefits. Ooooookay there pal

Someone's getting their talking points mixed up - which ain't all that surprising given the low IQ you've demonstrated in your short time here.

Dear God the election hacks are dumb this year.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And fuck you you bush loving hack.

Who was it that voted for the greatest expansion of veterans benefits in a generation? Obama.

Who was is that lobbied against the expansion for veterans benefits? They guy you're voting for, McCain.


At any rate, I would think a free market conservative would rather have a tax credit to purchase services on the free market, than some huge government beauracracy that doles out checks.

But cons are famous for their hypocrisy, right?

Again for the truly slow. A military retirement or Disability check is an EARNED check. One I gave up 16 years of my life for. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, available at the beck and call of the United States Marines.

It was earned via the contract I signed when I joined and rejoined the Corps. Earned by my work and performance on the Job.

My Social Security Disability was also earned by my paying into the Social Security program every working day of my life.

But to you liberal turds only those willing to be bought by your social programs should get money? Those that have never worked a day in their life? Those that have never been anything but a drain on this Government and it's people?

To further educate your dumb ass, I would vote to repel Social Security if it ever came up for a vote. Though if a Constitutional Amendment were submitted authorizing the program with a stipulation the money collected could only be used for SS, I would vote for that also.

 

[Red Dawn]

Again for the truly slow. A military retirement or Disability check is an EARNED check. One I gave up 16 years of my life for. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, available at the beck and call of the United States Marines.

It was earned via the contract I signed when I joined and rejoined the Corps. Earned by my work and performance on the Job.

My Social Security Disability was also earned by my paying into the Social Security program every working day of my life.

But to you liberal turds only those willing to be bought by your social programs should get money? Those that have never worked a day in their life? Those that have never been anything but a drain on this Government and it's people?

To further educate your dumb ass, I would vote to repel Social Security if it ever came up for a vote. Though if a Constitutional Amendment were submitted authorizing the program with a stipulation the money collected could only be used for SS, I would vote for that also.

Gotcha.

You want a huge government beauracracy to cut you checks every month.

But you want to eliminate government Medicaid payments for healthcare for poor children, you want to eliminate social security checks to elderly americans.

Very selfish and hypocritical. That's why you're a con. You want government to take care of you, but nobody else.

 

[editec]

Where do I begin here.

Being President of the Harvard Law Review has nothing to do with intelligence. It's an elected position. It does not mean he was the smartest guy at harvard law school.

Not exactly, Avatar. In fact, not even close.

FYI:
Selection of editors for Harvard Law Review

Using a competitive process that takes into account first-year grades, an editing exercise, and a written commentary on a court decision, The Harvard Law Review selects between 41 and 43 editors annually from the second-year Law School class, which numbers 560.
Two editors from each of first-year class's seven sections (fourteen in all) are selected half by their first year grades and half by their scores on the writing competition. Another twenty are selected solely on their scores on the writing competition. The other seven to nine are selected by a discretionary committee, either to fulfill the review's race-based affirmative action program, to select students who just missed the cut by either of the other two processes, or by some other criteria as the committee sees fit.

Obama has made money. Can you name one thing Obama has done to improve his community? Heck, Obama had to have money to go to Harvard to begin with.

I think the following vita might be illuminating.

Following high school, Barack Obama moved to Los Angeles, where he studied at Occidental College for two years.[8] He then transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations.[9] Obama graduated with a B.A. from Columbia in 1983, then worked for a year at the Business International Corporation[10] and then at the New York Public Interest Research Group.[11][12]

After four years in New York City, Obama moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman, and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side.[11][13] During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.[14] Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute.[15] In mid-1988, he traveled for the first time to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks where he met many of his Kenyan relatives for the first time.[16]

Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988 and at the end of his first year was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review based on his grades and a writing competition.[17] In his second year he was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the law review's staff of 80 editors.[18] Obama's election in February 1990 as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review was widely reported and followed by several long, detailed profiles.[18] He graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991 and returned to Chicago where he had worked as a summer associate at the law firms of Sidley & Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[17][19]

The publicity from his election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a book about race relations.[20] In an effort to recruit him to their faculty, the University of Chicago Law School provided Obama with a fellowship and an office to work on his book.[20] He originally planned to finish the book in one year, but it took much longer as the book evolved into a personal memoir. In order to work without interruptions, Obama and his wife, Michelle, traveled to Bali where he wrote for several months. The manuscript was finally published as Dreams from My Father in mid-1995.[20]

Obama directed Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain's Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[21][22]

Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).[23]

In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[11][24]

Obama was a founding member of the board of directors of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife, Michelle, became the founding executive director of Public Allies Chicago in early 1993.[11][25] He served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund Obama's DCP, from 1993–2002, and served on the board of directors of The Joyce Foundation from 1994–2002.[11] Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999.[11] He also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center.[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Law_Review

I've been to law school. I've met hundreds of lawyers. Going to law school and even being an editor of a journal doesn't impress me. Because lawyers are just as inclined to be stupid as anyone else.

Oh yeah, those Harvard rained awyers are a well known for their stupidity.

Getting through law school simply means he can work hard. Because really that's all it takes.

So like anybody who works hard can graduate magna cum laude from Harvard Laws school? I didn't know tht.

You are a lawyer, Avatar?

And this post is the best critique you can field against Obama?

 

[editec]

Where do I begin here.

Being President of the Harvard Law Review has nothing to do with intelligence. It's an elected position. It does not mean he was the smartest guy at harvard law school.

Not exactly, Avatar. In fact, not even close.

FYI:
Selection of editors for Harvard Law Review

Using a competitive process that takes into account first-year grades, an editing exercise, and a written commentary on a court decision, The Harvard Law Review selects between 41 and 43 editors annually from the second-year Law School class, which numbers 560.
Two editors from each of first-year class's seven sections (fourteen in all) are selected half by their first year grades and half by their scores on the writing competition. Another twenty are selected solely on their scores on the writing competition. The other seven to nine are selected by a discretionary committee, either to fulfill the review's race-based affirmative action program, to select students who just missed the cut by either of the other two processes, or by some other criteria as the committee sees fit.

Obama has made money. Can you name one thing Obama has done to improve his community? Heck, Obama had to have money to go to Harvard to begin with.

I think the following vita might be illuminating.

Following high school, Barack Obama moved to Los Angeles, where he studied at Occidental College for two years.[8] He then transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations.[9] Obama graduated with a B.A. from Columbia in 1983, then worked for a year at the Business International Corporation[10] and then at the New York Public Interest Research Group.[11][12]

After four years in New York City, Obama moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman, and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side.[11][13] During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.[14] Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute.[15] In mid-1988, he traveled for the first time to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks where he met many of his Kenyan relatives for the first time.[16]

Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988 and at the end of his first year was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review based on his grades and a writing competition.[17] In his second year he was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the law review's staff of 80 editors.[18] Obama's election in February 1990 as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review was widely reported and followed by several long, detailed profiles.[18] He graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991 and returned to Chicago where he had worked as a summer associate at the law firms of Sidley & Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[17][19]

The publicity from his election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a book about race relations.[20] In an effort to recruit him to their faculty, the University of Chicago Law School provided Obama with a fellowship and an office to work on his book.[20] He originally planned to finish the book in one year, but it took much longer as the book evolved into a personal memoir. In order to work without interruptions, Obama and his wife, Michelle, traveled to Bali where he wrote for several months. The manuscript was finally published as Dreams from My Father in mid-1995.[20]

Obama directed Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain's Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[21][22]

Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).[23]

In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[11][24]

Obama was a founding member of the board of directors of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife, Michelle, became the founding executive director of Public Allies Chicago in early 1993.[11][25] He served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund Obama's DCP, from 1993–2002, and served on the board of directors of The Joyce Foundation from 1994–2002.[11] Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999.[11] He also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center.[11]

I hope the above answers your questions both about how he made his living and his contributions to society since high school.

I've been to law school. I've met hundreds of lawyers. Going to law school and even being an editor of a journal doesn't impress me. Because lawyers are just as inclined to be stupid as anyone else.

Oh yeah, those Harvard trained lawyers are a well known for their stupidity. Thanks for reminding us.

Getting through law school simply means he can work hard. Because really that's all it takes.

So like anybody who works hard can graduate magna cum laude from Harvard Law school? I didn't know that.

You are a lawyer, Avatar?

And this post is the best critique you can field against Obama?

That in your opinion all he did was work hard?

Well, thanks for your input.