"Maybe I'm Wrong About Guns"

[2aguy]

WoW.
It seems like you're in favor of my entire agenda
BECAUSE
My Tiny Brained oxygen deprived Querdenken,
The stronger background checks and limits on purchases will eliminate every problem you described.
Thank you for your ill worded, lightly thought, and thoroughly ignorant response.

You can't explain how background checks or purchase limits do any of that....just saying they will doesn't mean anything...you asshats have been shown over and over again that background checks are ignored by criminals, they use straw buyers who can pass any background check or steal the guns....and that also gets around any limit on purchases..

Are you this mentally deficient in real life or just when you post.

 

[BULLDOG]

The Japanese have higher suicide rates than we do, you dumb ass...as do about 20 other European countries......

Guns are not the issue in suicide.

Scotland has a higher suicide rate than the U.S......Japan, where only criminals and cops have guns, has a higher suicide rate than the U.S....Sweden has a higher suicide rate than the U.S....Denmark has a higher suicide rate than the u.S.....



France

Germany,

Hungary

Iceland

New Zealand

Poland

Norway

Japan

South Korea



https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/suiciderate.html



Scotland..



15.7 suicides per 100,000

In 2019?

16.7 suicides per 100,000.

And in the U.S.?

13.93 per 100,000



Suicide facts and figures



Changes in Suicide Rates — United States, ...



https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/suiciderate.html



South Korea 24.7

Hungary 21

Japan 19.4

Belgium 18.4

Finland 16.5

France 14.6

Austria 13.8

Poland 13.8

Czec Republic 12.7

New Zealand 11.9

Denmark 11.3

Sweden 11.1

Norway 10.9

Slovac Republic 10.9

Iceland 10.3

Germany 10.3

Canada 10.2

United States 10.1



A new report by Unicef contains a shocking statistic - New Zealand has by far the highest youth suicide rate in the developed world.
A shock but no surprise - it's not the first time the country tops that table.
The Unicef report found New Zealand's youth suicide rate - teenagers between 15 and 19 - to be the highest of a long list of 41 OECD and EU countries.
The rate of 15.6 suicides per 100,000 people is twice as high as the US rate and almost five times that of Britain.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40284130



Another year...Japan and 20 other countries with higher suicide rates than U.S....



https://www.nli-research.co.jp/files/topics/51104_ext_18_en_0.pdf?site=nli

As always, your cut and paste skills are awesome.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Remove the gun.

Oh.
I thought you might have a rational, reasonable solution.
Silly me.

 

[M14 Shooter]

As I said, virtually unregulated.

Which is a lie, or a statement of abject ignorance.

it is impossible to demonstrate the necessity for, and efficacy of these restrictions on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms.
Given this, why would anyone support them, much less agree to them?

 

[M14 Shooter]

The stronger background checks and limits on purchases will eliminate every problem you described.

^^^
This is a lie, as you know the people currently buying and selling guns illegally will not be affected by these background checks.

 

[cnm]

A country with strict gun laws still has violent gun crime.

It's almost as though if a solution is not perfect it must not be implemented.

 

[Markle]

As always, your cut and paste skills are awesome.

Bottom line is that you agree with the statistics posted and the facts tick you off.

Got it!

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's almost as though if a solution is not perfect it must not be implemented.

There's no rational reason to implement an unnecessary and/or ineffective "solution".

 

[Dadoalex]

The Japanese have higher suicide rates than we do, you dumb ass...as do about 20 other European countries......

Guns are not the issue in suicide.

Scotland has a higher suicide rate than the U.S......Japan, where only criminals and cops have guns, has a higher suicide rate than the U.S....Sweden has a higher suicide rate than the U.S....Denmark has a higher suicide rate than the u.S.....



France

Germany,

Hungary

Iceland

New Zealand

Poland

Norway

Japan

South Korea



https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/suiciderate.html



Scotland..



15.7 suicides per 100,000

In 2019?

16.7 suicides per 100,000.

And in the U.S.?

13.93 per 100,000



Suicide facts and figures



Changes in Suicide Rates — United States, ...



https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/suiciderate.html



South Korea 24.7

Hungary 21

Japan 19.4

Belgium 18.4

Finland 16.5

France 14.6

Austria 13.8

Poland 13.8

Czec Republic 12.7

New Zealand 11.9

Denmark 11.3

Sweden 11.1

Norway 10.9

Slovac Republic 10.9

Iceland 10.3

Germany 10.3

Canada 10.2

United States 10.1



A new report by Unicef contains a shocking statistic - New Zealand has by far the highest youth suicide rate in the developed world.
A shock but no surprise - it's not the first time the country tops that table.
The Unicef report found New Zealand's youth suicide rate - teenagers between 15 and 19 - to be the highest of a long list of 41 OECD and EU countries.
The rate of 15.6 suicides per 100,000 people is twice as high as the US rate and almost five times that of Britain.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40284130



Another year...Japan and 20 other countries with higher suicide rates than U.S....



https://www.nli-research.co.jp/files/topics/51104_ext_18_en_0.pdf?site=nli

The choice of weapon is always a factor.

Rates will always vary by society.
BUT
Eliminating the choice of using a firearm makes it harder.
So....
Your diatribe was irrelevant and worthless.
What else you got?

 

[Dadoalex]

You can't explain how background checks or purchase limits do any of that....just saying they will doesn't mean anything...you asshats have been shown over and over again that background checks are ignored by criminals, they use straw buyers who can pass any background check or steal the guns....and that also gets around any limit on purchases..

Are you this mentally deficient in real life or just when you post.

It doesn't take explanation, all it takes is common sense.
Straw Buyers, for example...
Background checks on EVERY transaction would eliminate their ability to make the buys...
Registration would ID to whom the gun was sold and then the gun can be traced through the exchanges.

NOW
Unless you are saying that all gun owners are criminals by nature then these processes will drive out the brown market for firearms.

 

[Dadoalex]

Oh.
I thought you might have a rational, reasonable solution.
Silly me.

The most rational solution when dealing with irrational people is to remove their ability to harm themselves or others.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Eliminating the choice of using a firearm makes it harder.

Your suggestion is irrelevant and worthless.
What else you got?

 

[M14 Shooter]

The most rational solution when dealing with irrational people is to remove their ability to harm themselves or others.

If so, the only solution is to incarcerate and restrain them.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Background checks on EVERY transaction would eliminate their ability to make the buys...
Registration would ID to whom the gun was sold and then the gun can be traced through the exchanges.

You know these things are useless as you know the people currently buying and selling guns illegally will not be affected by them.

 

[Dadoalex]

Which is a lie, or a statement of abject ignorance.

it is impossible to demonstrate the necessity for, and efficacy of these restrictions on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms.
Given this, why would anyone support them, much less agree to them?

AGAIN, nationwide...
Are guns licensed?
Are 100% background checks done?
Are there purchase limits?
Are there regulations on storage?

NO???????

Other than special circumstances such as when the politicians who've given you so many guns want protection from all the guns they've given you guns are nearly unregulated.

 

[Dadoalex]

^^^
This is a lie, as you know the people currently buying and selling guns illegally will not be affected by these background checks.

From whom are they buying the guns illegally?

The Criminal Gun Manufacturing Company?

They're buying their guns from the collective YOU.
Now, if you want to risk 10 years in a federal prison for selling your firearm without doing the background check that is fine with both me and the criminal to whom you sold the gun.
BUT
I'm betting you roll on your criminal associate for a lighter sentence and we get both of you off the street.

The "law abiding" gun owner is responsible for 100% of gun crime because the "law-abiding" gun owner is the guy providing the guns to the criminals.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

In the U.S. we have 330 million people.

In 2019 there were 12 mass public shootings....12 individuals out of 330 million.

They killed a total of 73 people.

Each year deer kill 200 people.

Ladders kill 300 people.

Lawn mowers kill between 90-100 people.

Bathtubs kill 350 people a year.

Cars killed over 39,000 people.

Yet somehow we are to believe that with 600 million guns in private hands, and over 19.4 million Americans who can legally carry guns in public for self defense...that we must ban these guns because of mass public shootings.......

This is why we don't trust gun grabbers.....

You can do something to prevent yourself from falling in the bathtub and dying, same with lawnmowers, cars, deer, ladders, etc.

Pretty hard to do anything about some goof who decided to shoot a bunch of people.

 

[BULLDOG]

From whom are they buying the guns illegally?

The Criminal Gun Manufacturing Company?

They're buying their guns from the collective YOU.
Now, if you want to risk 10 years in a federal prison for selling your firearm without doing the background check that is fine with both me and the criminal to whom you sold the gun.
BUT
I'm betting you roll on your criminal associate for a lighter sentence and we get both of you off the street.

The "law abiding" gun owner is responsible for 100% of gun crime because the "law-abiding" gun owner is the guy providing the guns to the criminals.

The law abiding gun owner has no obligation to know or care if the person buying their gun can legally have it. He has no legal obligation to bother to find out. The legal gun owner is often a straw buyer whether he knows it or not.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Just watched the first few minutes, but might watch the rest later. I found it rediculous when he, like so many gun nuts here claimed that those wanting reasonable gun regulation didn't know anything about guns. It was funny when he said the forefathers would have certainly known how much gun technology would advance, and gave the puckle gun as an example of a fully automatic gun of that time. He didn't bother to mention the puckle gun was capable of only 9 rounds per minute.

Way better than the rate of fire for the standard flintlock musket of the time, which was around 3 shots a minute.

 

[Markle]

The choice of weapon is always a factor.

Rates will always vary by society.
BUT
Eliminating the choice of using a firearm makes it harder.
So....
Your diatribe was irrelevant and worthless.
What else you got?

Even you know that you make no sense. Really, how can you grudgingly agree that many other countries, with prohibitions on any form of guns, have a far higher rates of suicide than the United States, but whine, "but taking our guns would make it more difficult.

Say wut?