Maya also have flood myth, suggests Global Flood?

[TheCrusader]

The Maya do not live in a region that can flood, flooding is caused in flood plains, which are areas slightly lower than or at river-water level and separated by levees (typically), or in faster rivers, the river typically is lower but might swell and break over into the flood plain.

But guess what? The Mayans originated from a country WITHOUT rivers.

So where did they get their "Flood story" from?

 

[Steven_R]

What the hell are you talking about? It floods in SE Mexico, Belize, and Guatemala all the time. They get hit with hurricanes on a yearly basis. Even if it didn't flood, between torrential rainfalls and the human imagination you've got your flood stories.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nearly all civilizations have myths about giants and other bogeymen. So the giants and bogeymen are real by the standards of the OP.

 

[Steven_R]

But the giants (aka nephilim) were real! The Bible says so. Sure, no one can find any real proof, like fossils or oversized tools or housing, but the Bible!

 

[TheOldSchool]

The Maya do not live in a region that can flood, flooding is caused in flood plains, which are areas slightly lower than or at river-water level and separated by levees (typically), or in faster rivers, the river typically is lower but might swell and break over into the flood plain.

But guess what? The Mayans originated from a country WITHOUT rivers.

So where did they get their "Flood story" from?

Dude... remember, you're supposed to at least try to be funny.

 

[JakeStarkey]

But the giants (aka nephilim) were real! The Bible says so. Sure, no one can find any real proof, like fossils or oversized tools or housing, but the Bible!

I know: facts. Damn them.

 

[Steven_R]

But the giants (aka nephilim) were real! The Bible says so. Sure, no one can find any real proof, like fossils or oversized tools or housing, but the Bible!

I know: facts. Damn them.

 

[hobelim]

The Maya do not live in a region that can flood, flooding is caused in flood plains, which are areas slightly lower than or at river-water level and separated by levees (typically), or in faster rivers, the river typically is lower but might swell and break over into the flood plain.

But guess what? The Mayans originated from a country WITHOUT rivers.

So where did they get their "Flood story" from?

There is an impact crater 25 times larger than meteor crater in AZ on the bottom of the Indian ocean under more than 11,000 feet of water that dates to the approximate time of the flood stories. This event would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing mega tsunamis, wiping out all coastal populations, and a worldwide deluge of torrential rain and superstorms, tornados, etc., that would have lasted for months and would have swept away all settlements situated near rivers and streams flooding even desert lands.

The world would have come to an abrupt end for most people living at the time and the rest would have had their minds blown and logically concluded that there was a very angry and powerful God living up there somewhere who somehow favored those who survived and obviously needed to be constantly appeased lest they too would incur his wrath..

 

[Indeependent]

Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

"fountains of the great deep"...you know, underground water.

 

[shimon]

people used to live where the Black Sea basin is there was a earthen dam holding back the waters from flowing in after the melting of the glaciers when the last ice age was ending the waters burst the dam and it took 40 days and 40 nights to fill the basin with water...This great flood flooding " their " whole knon world and the tale was brought from there and spread to all peoples....

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right...

... if it ain't the Iranians or No. Koreans with the bomb...

... den it's a big flood gonna drown us all...

... an' den we all gonna die...

... ya can't win fer losin'...

I hate it when dat happens."

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

 

[TheCrusader]

There are a number of similarities with the Popol vuh, such as the flood that destroyed the earth in their latest destruction cycle was purposed to destroy "Evil-doing people".

And such as the people had corrupted blood (in Genesis the only people who survived were pure blooded Adam-descendants.

Meanwhile, as I illustrated, there were no floods occurring in the Mayan heartland. Someone so unscrupulously says that it floods there all the time. Sure buddy. Sure...meanwhile, in reality, no it does not. A hurricane doesn't cause the heartland of the Mayan lowland to become "flooded". Certainly no early Mayan would believe the whole world was destroyed by a "hurricane" or heavy rainfall.

They explicitly state that the world was completely drowned.

That's a flood story, like in Genesis, or in Sumer, or in central Africa, or in Greece, etc. Many ancient societies had flood myths.

But the Maya don't live near flood plains, so if you have evidence the Maya experienced floods (even rarely), please present the proof.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

There are a number of similarities with the Popol vuh, such as the flood that destroyed the earth in their latest destruction cycle was purposed to destroy "Evil-doing people".

And such as the people had corrupted blood (in Genesis the only people who survived were pure blooded Adam-descendants.

Meanwhile, as I illustrated, there were no floods occurring in the Mayan heartland. Someone so unscrupulously says that it floods there all the time. Sure buddy. Sure...meanwhile, in reality, no it does not. A hurricane doesn't cause the heartland of the Mayan lowland to become "flooded". Certainly no early Mayan would believe the whole world was destroyed by a "hurricane" or heavy rainfall.

They explicitly state that the world was completely drowned.

That's a flood story, like in Genesis, or in Sumer, or in central Africa, or in Greece, etc. Many ancient societies had flood myths.

But the Maya don't live near flood plains, so if you have evidence the Maya experienced floods (even rarely), please present the proof.

Where's your evidence that they never did?

Your OP and the latest response is just your own words, so provide a source maybe from Oxford, or Yale or a credited University in Mexico or Central America that will back your claims, and if not then I guess your opinion is as valid as the one you are demanding to provide a link to prove there was flooding in that region...

 

[Snouter]

The earth is flat! The jewish/christian bible says so.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yes, Central America floods. Yes, all cultures have flood narratives. Yes, all cultures have narratives about giants or little peoples, etc. That does not mean a world wide flood inundated the world and killed all the giants and little people.

 

[hobelim]

Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

"fountains of the great deep"...you know, underground water.

Yes, Central America floods. Yes, all cultures have flood narratives. Yes, all cultures have narratives about giants or little peoples, etc. That does not mean a world wide flood inundated the world and killed all the giants and little people.

At the very least something very traumatic, mind boggling and devastating happened worldwide that would account for the hundreds of enduring flood myths from around the world.

If a rock fell from the sky and came down in the middle of an ocean the splash would have looked like fountains of the great deep opened up and the aftermath and ensuing worldwide deluge would have swept away all coastal civilizations and interior settlements built near rivers or streams.

If such a thing happened today many people would still conclude that there was a powerful supernatural being behind the event that was displeased with the human race and survivors would still write fantastical stories about it trying to convey some moral lesson.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

"fountains of the great deep"...you know, underground water.

Yes, Central America floods. Yes, all cultures have flood narratives. Yes, all cultures have narratives about giants or little peoples, etc. That does not mean a world wide flood inundated the world and killed all the giants and little people.

At the very least something very traumatic, mind boggling and devastating happened worldwide that would account for the hundreds of enduring flood myths from around the world.

If a rock fell from the sky and came down in the middle of an ocean the splash would have looked like fountains of the great deep opened up and the aftermath and ensuing worldwide deluge would have swept away all coastal civilizations and interior settlements built near rivers or streams.

If such a thing happened today many people would still conclude that there was a powerful supernatural being behind the event that was displeased with the human race and survivors would still write stories about it trying to convey some moral lesson.

What a strange mental world you inhabit. There was no world wide flood; you cannot prove it empirically with data or reason or logic.

 

[hobelim]

Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

"fountains of the great deep"...you know, underground water.

Yes, Central America floods. Yes, all cultures have flood narratives. Yes, all cultures have narratives about giants or little peoples, etc. That does not mean a world wide flood inundated the world and killed all the giants and little people.

At the very least something very traumatic, mind boggling and devastating happened worldwide that would account for the hundreds of enduring flood myths from around the world.

If a rock fell from the sky and came down in the middle of an ocean the splash would have looked like fountains of the great deep opened up and the aftermath and ensuing worldwide deluge would have swept away all coastal civilizations and interior settlements built near rivers or streams.

If such a thing happened today many people would still conclude that there was a powerful supernatural being behind the event that was displeased with the human race and survivors would still write stories about it trying to convey some moral lesson.

What a strange mental world you inhabit. There was no world wide flood; you cannot prove it empirically with data or reason or logic.

Hey man, lighten up. Its a theory based on facts. If such a thing happened, and the evidence suggests that it did, whats so unbelievable that the people who experience this would have used a little hyperbole when writing children's stories about it?

Burckle Crater - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JakeStarkey]

Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

"fountains of the great deep"...you know, underground water.

Yes, Central America floods. Yes, all cultures have flood narratives. Yes, all cultures have narratives about giants or little peoples, etc. That does not mean a world wide flood inundated the world and killed all the giants and little people.

At the very least something very traumatic, mind boggling and devastating happened worldwide that would account for the hundreds of enduring flood myths from around the world.

If a rock fell from the sky and came down in the middle of an ocean the splash would have looked like fountains of the great deep opened up and the aftermath and ensuing worldwide deluge would have swept away all coastal civilizations and interior settlements built near rivers or streams.

If such a thing happened today many people would still conclude that there was a powerful supernatural being behind the event that was displeased with the human race and survivors would still write stories about it trying to convey some moral lesson.

What a strange mental world you inhabit. There was no world wide flood; you cannot prove it empirically with data or reason or logic.

Hey man, lighten up. Its a theory based on facts. If such a thing happened, and the evidence suggests that it did, whats so unbelievable that the people who experience this would have used a little hyperbole when writing children's stories about it?

Burckle Crater - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The empirical and logical evidence supports nothing of the sort.