Massive Failure in Iran

[protectionist]

OMG! ROFLMFAO! You lie about me and then blame me? Typical MAGAt response.

I have two choices to believe about you: Either you are an evil psychotic liar or you are simply a poor demented fool. Because I'm a Christian, I'll believe the latter.

I did NOT lie about you, and you are now lying about me, by saying that I lied about you.
You are deranged. I said it before, I say it again.

 

[protectionist]

It really doesn't serve such purpose to talk to TDS loons, who only engage in Trump bashing, and have zero objectivity about the things he does.

They are basically irrelevant. Trump is kicking IRGC's butt, and eventually as their economy crashes (guys with the guns stop getting paid), the mullah loonies will flee the country, never to be heard from again. Ho hum.

 

[Divine Wind]

As for Muslims being wild fanatics, of course that is true, as shown by 1400 years of them being just that. Anyone who knows the history of Islam knows that.

And in Iran, Trump is succeeding very well.

Thanks for agreeing with me. Fanatics don't quit just because they missed a paycheck.

When they get to the point of can't pay the guys with the guns, they will fall apart, and IRGCers will flee the country - but where will they go ? (Afghanistan maybe. Yemen ?)

 

[toomuchtime_]

Thanks for agreeing with me. Fanatics don't quit just because they missed a paycheck.

If you mean the ayatollahs or the top brass of the IRGC, you're right, but if you mean the people lower down on the food chain who actually do the work of making the government work, they do quit when their salaries aren't paid and they need to support families no matter how fanatical they seen to be on a full stomach.

 

[Divine Wind]

I did NOT lie about you, and you are now lying about me, by saying that I lied about you.
You are deranged. I said it before, I say it again.

Hogwash. You made a false claim about me and are proving you are not man enough to admit it. Instead, like the pussified POS I now know you to be, you blamed me for your mistake. Again, I forgive you because I think you are demented and/or retarded.

The LIE:

You called the nuclear issue "theater".

Now, back to Trump's massive failure to distract from the Epstein Files by attacking Iran against the advice of Tulsi and General Caine. It may take some time before the truth is fully known, but there's a reason why no President until Trump was foolish enough to kick over the hornet's nest that is Iran and the Strait of Hormuz.

Trump hits out at reports that top US general warned against attacking Iran

General Dan Caine has warned that strikes against Iran could be risky, potentially drawing the US into a prolonged conflict, US media report.

www.bbc.com

Multiple outlets, including Axios and The Washington Post, had reported that Caine and other Pentagon officials raised serious concerns in internal meetings about the risks of a US military operation against Iran.

Citing several sources familiar with the discussions, Axios - which first reported the news - said that Caine was one of several people within Trump's inner circle who were urging the president to proceed cautiously.

 

[protectionist]

Thanks for agreeing with me. Fanatics don't quit just because they missed a paycheck.

The fanatics are the IRGC at the top of the regime, not the ones with the guns getting the paychecks.

You're having some trouble getting this focused ?

 

[Divine Wind]

If you mean the ayatollahs or the top brass of the IRGC, you're right, but if you mean the people lower down on the food chain who actually do the work of making the government work, they do quit when their salaries aren't paid and they need to support families no matter how fanatical they seen to be on a full stomach.

They'll gripe, but those people aren't the ones operating the gun boats and launching the drones. The people you are referencing are the ones teaching in schools, working in power plants, water plants, transporting food and the like.

 

[Divine Wind]

The fanatics are the IRGC at the top of the regime, not the ones with the guns getting the paychecks.

You're having some trouble getting this focused ?

Sorry , until you apologize for lying about me, you're just another MAGA moron who isn't worth my time.

For honest, rational and intelligent people, who believes the war will be over by next week?

Iran-US war live: Tehran shares update on supreme leader as Trump says war will end

Supreme leader has not been seen in public since his father Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed in strikes that sparked the Iran war

www.independent.co.uk

Meanwhile, Donald Trump said that the war with Iran would “be over quickly” as Tehran reviewed a new US peace proposal aimed at ending the conflict

The US president said he had “very good talks” with Iran over the past 24 hours but stressed that there’s “never a deadline” on when Tehran will respond back to the proposal.

Iran said a US proposal to end the war is "still being considered".

 

[protectionist]

Hogwash. You made a false claim about me and are proving you are not man enough to admit it. Instead, like the pussified POS I now know you to be, you blamed me for your mistake. Again, I forgive you because I think you are demented and/or retarded.

The LIE:


Now, back to Trump's massive failure to distract from the Epstein Files by attacking Iran against the advice of Tulsi and General Caine. It may take some time before the truth is fully known, but there's a reason why no President until Trump was foolish enough to kick over the hornet's nest that is Iran and the Strait of Hormuz.

Trump hits out at reports that top US general warned against attacking Iran

General Dan Caine has warned that strikes against Iran could be risky, potentially drawing the US into a prolonged conflict, US media report.

www.bbc.com

Multiple outlets, including Axios and The Washington Post, had reported that Caine and other Pentagon officials raised serious concerns in internal meetings about the risks of a US military operation against Iran.

Citing several sources familiar with the discussions, Axios - which first reported the news - said that Caine was one of several people within Trump's inner circle who were urging the president to proceed cautiously.

It looks like you said it, and then cowardly deleted it. No matter. You said that same thing in another post (# 81) which I called you out on in Post # 96.

There is no risk at all about the war against Iran. The IRGC leaders are already defeated, and it's just a matter of time (not long) before the flee the country,

 

[protectionist]

Sorry , until you apologize for lying about me, you're just another MAGA moron who isn't worth my time.

For honest, rational and intelligent people, who believes the war will be over by next week?

Iran-US war live: Tehran shares update on supreme leader as Trump says war will end

Supreme leader has not been seen in public since his father Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed in strikes that sparked the Iran war

www.independent.co.uk

Meanwhile, Donald Trump said that the war with Iran would “be over quickly” as Tehran reviewed a new US peace proposal aimed at ending the conflict

The US president said he had “very good talks” with Iran over the past 24 hours but stressed that there’s “never a deadline” on when Tehran will respond back to the proposal.

Iran said a US proposal to end the war is "still being considered".

Until you apologize to me for lying by saying I lied, you're just another leftist, lunatic, airhead, greenhair, clueless about Islam and the IRGC, and our need to eliminate them.

 

[toomuchtime_]

They'll gripe, but those people aren't the ones operating the gun boats and launching the drones. The people you are referencing are the ones teaching in schools, working in power plants, water plants, transporting food and the like.

No, these are the Iranians I am talking about.

AI Overview



As of May 2026, reports indicate that desertion and defection are occurring across multiple branches of the Iranian security forces, including the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). These desertions are part of a broader collapse in military morale following the death of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei in late February 2026 and the subsequent escalation of the conflict with U.S. and Israeli forces. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Reported Desertion within the IRGC
While the regular army (Artesh) has seen the most widespread "mass desertions," the IRGC is also facing significant internal fractures:

• Operational Abandonment: Commanders have reportedly abandoned their posts, leaving conscripts to face airstrikes without support. Notably, Majid Mousavi, commander of the IRGC’s Aerospace Force, was accused by his own subordinates of abandoning troops in the field during heavy combat in March 2026.
• Widespread AWOL Cases: Reports from early March 2026 highlighted a "desertion wave" within the IRGC, which subsequently spread to the police and regular army.
• Staffing Shortages: The IRGC has attempted to fill gaps caused by desertions by recalling retirees to active duty and offering amnesty to prisoners who agree to join security operations. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]

Primary Drivers of Military Collapse
The current surge in desertions across the Iranian military is attributed to several critical factors:

• Leadership Crisis: The killing of Khamenei on February 28, 2026, led to "confusion and divisions" within the command structure, with some soldiers reporting they no longer know who to follow.
• Supply Scarcity: Units on the front lines have reportedly been issued as few as 10–20 bullets to share among multiple soldiers, along with severe shortages of food and drinking water.
• Financial Strain: Salary payments for security forces, including police and army personnel, have been delayed for months as the Iranian rial collapsed.
• Shift in Loyalty: Soldiers are reportedly abandoning their posts to protect their own families and have signaled they may refuse to fire on civilians if domestic protests intensify. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]

Institutional Friction
Despite shared desertion challenges, a lethal rivalry remains between the IRGC and the Artesh. The IRGC has reportedly refused to transport wounded regular army soldiers to hospitals or share supplies, leading to further demoralization and group desertions from the Artesh. [1, 2]

 

[Divine Wind]

No, these are the Iranians I am talking about.

AI Overview



As of May 2026, reports indicate that desertion and defection are occurring across multiple branches of the Iranian security forces, including the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). These desertions are part of a broader collapse in military morale following the death of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei in late February 2026 and the subsequent escalation of the conflict with U.S. and Israeli forces. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Reported Desertion within the IRGC
While the regular army (Artesh) has seen the most widespread "mass desertions," the IRGC is also facing significant internal fractures:

• Operational Abandonment: Commanders have reportedly abandoned their posts, leaving conscripts to face airstrikes without support. Notably, Majid Mousavi, commander of the IRGC’s Aerospace Force, was accused by his own subordinates of abandoning troops in the field during heavy combat in March 2026.
• Widespread AWOL Cases: Reports from early March 2026 highlighted a "desertion wave" within the IRGC, which subsequently spread to the police and regular army.
• Staffing Shortages: The IRGC has attempted to fill gaps caused by desertions by recalling retirees to active duty and offering amnesty to prisoners who agree to join security operations. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]

Primary Drivers of Military Collapse
The current surge in desertions across the Iranian military is attributed to several critical factors:

• Leadership Crisis: The killing of Khamenei on February 28, 2026, led to "confusion and divisions" within the command structure, with some soldiers reporting they no longer know who to follow.
• Supply Scarcity: Units on the front lines have reportedly been issued as few as 10–20 bullets to share among multiple soldiers, along with severe shortages of food and drinking water.
• Financial Strain: Salary payments for security forces, including police and army personnel, have been delayed for months as the Iranian rial collapsed.
• Shift in Loyalty: Soldiers are reportedly abandoning their posts to protect their own families and have signaled they may refuse to fire on civilians if domestic protests intensify. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]

Institutional Friction
Despite shared desertion challenges, a lethal rivalry remains between the IRGC and the Artesh. The IRGC has reportedly refused to transport wounded regular army soldiers to hospitals or share supplies, leading to further demoralization and group desertions from the Artesh. [1, 2]

Results count. When do you think Trump's war will end and when will gas prices drop below $3 again? Before the Midterms? After then new Congress is sworn in?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Results count. When do you think Trump's war will end and when will gas prices drop below $3 again? Before the Midterms? After then new Congress is sworn in?

It depends on what you mean by, war. If you are talking about the kind of intense conflict before the ceasefire, it has already ended for the present. The US is about to resume Project Freedom so oil prices will shortly drop, but the oil companies sell off their most expensive crude first, so it will be a little while before that translates into lower gas prices, but it will be well before the midterms.

 

[Divine Wind]

It depends on what you mean by, war. If you are talking about the kind of intense conflict before the ceasefire, it has already ended for the present. The US is about to resume Project Freedom so oil prices will shortly drop, but the oil companies sell off their most expensive crude first, so it will be a little while before that translates into lower gas prices, but it will be well before the midterms.

Care to make a friendly wager on that?

I'm saying the prices will be the same or higher before the Midterms thus proving Trump's massive failure in Iran.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Care to make a friendly wager on that?

I'm saying the prices will be the same or higher before the Midterms thus proving Trump's massive failure in Iran.

So instead of discussing your reasons for believing so, you want to pose as a tough guy and put money on it.

 

[kyzr]

No need. If you cared, you'd have quoted me instead of sending me on a wild goose chase to a post that isn't mine.

The fact remains Tertia Optio was working, but in his rush to run from the Epstein Files, Trump started a war in Iran he can't win.

Sorry, I meant #81, I'm old.

That has nothing to do with Iran having nukes. Weak tea.

 

[candycorn]

You must have sucked at it if you can't see what Trump is doing.

He’s begging iran for a deal and won’t get what he demanded. Everyone see what he is doing.

 

[candycorn]

https://people.com/republicans-propose-1-billion-for-trump-ballroom-security-upgrades-11967280

The legislation states that “none of the funds made available under this section may be used for non-security elements of the East Wing Modernization Project,” but neither Grassley’s staff nor the White House offered clarifications on what defines a “security feature” vs. a “non-security” feature of the ballroom.

If it was paid for, there would be no bill to fund it...much less one that is 2.5X the size of the original funding.

You didn't destroy anything. Full employment is full employment.
There is no significant economic difference between 4.2% and 3.4% unemployment.
CAPEX spending matters much more and Trump's numbers put Biden's to shame

Its alomst a full percentage point representing tens of thousands who had jobs under Biden and don’t have a job under your blob.

I can see why you want to minimize the impact of the b!tch slapping I delivered to you. That must have stung.

 

[Rawley]

He’s begging iran for a deal and won’t get what he demanded. Everyone see what he is doing.

Silly to ask, but care to provide an example of him "begging?"

 

[Divine Wind]

So instead of discussing your reasons for believing so, you want to pose as a tough guy and put money on it.

Let's be honest. I never bet MAGAts money since they always welch on the bet. I was thinking of something more like a week-long self-ban. Everyone could see if the person welched or not.
No worries about the bet. It's just my little way of judging a person's veracity.

As this and other threads prove, I believe Trump is BSing us about "peace in the Middle East". The Iranians are playing him and, We, the People, will have to pick up the tab at the gas pump because the Strait won't return to normal until the Iranians get massive concessions from the Dementia Don.