Iran is not acting like a defeated nation despite Don's proclamations to the contrary.

berg80 said:

Strike on U.S. Base in Saudi Arabia Injures 12 American Troops, 2 Seriously, Officials Say​

Iran-Backed Houthis Enter War With Missile Attack on Israel​


The Houthis, an Iranian-backed militant group in Yemen, announced on Saturday that they had launched a ballistic missile attack on Israel, appearing to open another front in the spiraling war in the Middle East.

And American casualties continued to rise as the war neared its second month: An Iranian strike on a military base in Saudi Arabia injured 12 U.S. troops, two of them seriously, two U.S. officials said Friday. It was one of the most serious breaches of American defenses since the war began.

It seems clear that Iran's strategy is to prolong the war, not end it, and in so doing inflict maximum damage on the global economy by keeping a stranglehold on cargo going thru the Strait. The latter being something the regime continues to pretend it anticipated. If it did, what was the plan to open the Strait to shipping traffic?

In the asymmetrical war that has developed Iran doesn't have to win in a conventional sense to achieve its goals. It just has to remain as an obstruction to normal, global commerce.

Since bludgeoning Iran to enact "unconditional surrender" was always a delusion and the ham handed diplomacy Don is trying with his merry band of misfits (Steve-a friend, Jared-a relative, Marco-an Iran hawk, and JD-a non interventionist) isn't working I'm struggling to see how this war ends. And even after it ends how the economic shock from it doesn't cause a global recession.

Beyond the question of how/when the war ends there's the matter of who Don blames for the disaster he created? You know, since he can't blame who is actually at fault.
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Translation: "I want Iran to win."
 
berg80 said:

Strike on U.S. Base in Saudi Arabia Injures 12 American Troops, 2 Seriously, Officials Say​

Iran-Backed Houthis Enter War With Missile Attack on Israel​


The Houthis, an Iranian-backed militant group in Yemen, announced on Saturday that they had launched a ballistic missile attack on Israel, appearing to open another front in the spiraling war in the Middle East.

And American casualties continued to rise as the war neared its second month: An Iranian strike on a military base in Saudi Arabia injured 12 U.S. troops, two of them seriously, two U.S. officials said Friday. It was one of the most serious breaches of American defenses since the war began.

It seems clear that Iran's strategy is to prolong the war, not end it, and in so doing inflict maximum damage on the global economy by keeping a stranglehold on cargo going thru the Strait. The latter being something the regime continues to pretend it anticipated. If it did, what was the plan to open the Strait to shipping traffic?

In the asymmetrical war that has developed Iran doesn't have to win in a conventional sense to achieve its goals. It just has to remain as an obstruction to normal, global commerce.

Since bludgeoning Iran to enact "unconditional surrender" was always a delusion and the ham handed diplomacy Don is trying with his merry band of misfits (Steve-a friend, Jared-a relative, Marco-an Iran hawk, and JD-a non interventionist) isn't working I'm struggling to see how this war ends. And even after it ends how the economic shock from it doesn't cause a global recession.

Beyond the question of how/when the war ends there's the matter of who Don blames for the disaster he created? You know, since he can't blame who is actually at fault.
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I agree that we need to double down and defeat them.
 
What's so funny?

President Donald Trump on Friday winkingly referred to the Strait of Hormuz, the vital oil-shipping route and a key choke point in the Iran war, as the “Strait of Trump.”

Iran has to “open up the Strait of Trump — I mean, Hormuz,” the president said in a speech at the Future Investment Initiative in Miami, garnering laughs from the crowd.

“Excuse me. I’m so sorry. Such a terrible mistake,” he said, feigning apologetics before clarifying, “The fake news will say, ‘He accidentally said’ — No, there’s no accidents with me, not too many. If there were, we’d have a major story.”
www.cnbc.com

Trump calls Strait of Hormuz the 'Strait of Trump'

Trump recently floated the possibility that the strait could be controlled jointly by "me and the ayatollah" as part of a resolution to the Iran war.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
 
berg80 said:

Strike on U.S. Base in Saudi Arabia Injures 12 American Troops, 2 Seriously, Officials Say​

Iran-Backed Houthis Enter War With Missile Attack on Israel​


The Houthis, an Iranian-backed militant group in Yemen, announced on Saturday that they had launched a ballistic missile attack on Israel, appearing to open another front in the spiraling war in the Middle East.

And American casualties continued to rise as the war neared its second month: An Iranian strike on a military base in Saudi Arabia injured 12 U.S. troops, two of them seriously, two U.S. officials said Friday. It was one of the most serious breaches of American defenses since the war began.

It seems clear that Iran's strategy is to prolong the war, not end it, and in so doing inflict maximum damage on the global economy by keeping a stranglehold on cargo going thru the Strait. The latter being something the regime continues to pretend it anticipated. If it did, what was the plan to open the Strait to shipping traffic?

In the asymmetrical war that has developed Iran doesn't have to win in a conventional sense to achieve its goals. It just has to remain as an obstruction to normal, global commerce.

Since bludgeoning Iran to enact "unconditional surrender" was always a delusion and the ham handed diplomacy Don is trying with his merry band of misfits (Steve-a friend, Jared-a relative, Marco-an Iran hawk, and JD-a non interventionist) isn't working I'm struggling to see how this war ends. And even after it ends how the economic shock from it doesn't cause a global recession.

Beyond the question of how/when the war ends there's the matter of who Don blames for the disaster he created? You know, since he can't blame who is actually at fault.
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/—-/ Like Nazi Germany and the SS, the Iranian Republican Guard is fighting to the bitter end.
 
berg80 said:

Strike on U.S. Base in Saudi Arabia Injures 12 American Troops, 2 Seriously, Officials Say​

Iran-Backed Houthis Enter War With Missile Attack on Israel​


The Houthis, an Iranian-backed militant group in Yemen, announced on Saturday that they had launched a ballistic missile attack on Israel, appearing to open another front in the spiraling war in the Middle East.

And American casualties continued to rise as the war neared its second month: An Iranian strike on a military base in Saudi Arabia injured 12 U.S. troops, two of them seriously, two U.S. officials said Friday. It was one of the most serious breaches of American defenses since the war began.

It seems clear that Iran's strategy is to prolong the war, not end it, and in so doing inflict maximum damage on the global economy by keeping a stranglehold on cargo going thru the Strait. The latter being something the regime continues to pretend it anticipated. If it did, what was the plan to open the Strait to shipping traffic?

In the asymmetrical war that has developed Iran doesn't have to win in a conventional sense to achieve its goals. It just has to remain as an obstruction to normal, global commerce.

Since bludgeoning Iran to enact "unconditional surrender" was always a delusion and the ham handed diplomacy Don is trying with his merry band of misfits (Steve-a friend, Jared-a relative, Marco-an Iran hawk, and JD-a non interventionist) isn't working I'm struggling to see how this war ends. And even after it ends how the economic shock from it doesn't cause a global recession.

Beyond the question of how/when the war ends there's the matter of who Don blames for the disaster he created? You know, since he can't blame who is actually at fault.
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Keep rooting for your Mullay buddies.










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berg80 said:
Why would saying hope is not a strategy cause you to ask that question?

See post #6.
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The strategy has already been laid out

Seize Kharg Island and possibly, though HOPEFULLY, it wont be necessary, clean out the rats nests along the Iran side of the Strait of Hormuz

Wont you be disappointed when it succeeds!
 

Wild Ultimatums and ‘Bombing Our Little Hearts Out’: A Portrait of Trump at War​

President Trump was fresh off the golf course, (WTF!!!) and his fury was building.

It was March 21, and as he settled back into his Mar-a-Lago estate for the evening, he was reading another news account about how, for all the military success the United States had in Iran, he had yet to achieve his political objectives.

At 7:44 p.m., the president made his frustration known with an extraordinary ultimatum: If Iran did not reopen the Strait of Hormuz within 48 hours and allow much of the world’s oil and gas to flow through, he would bomb Iran’s civilian electric power plants. It was the kind of attack that could constitute a war crime under the Geneva Conventions.

But just hours before the Monday deadline expired, Mr. Trump delayed his threat by five days, easing fears of an imminent escalation with profound military, diplomatic and economic implications.

It's a portrait of buffoonery.
 
berg80 said:
This conflict continues unless or until Iran no longer controls the Strait. If bleeding them dry of money is the goal maybe Don shouldn't have allowed Iran to sell some of its oil.
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Amazing that he lifted the sanctions on Iran. Amazing but not surprising.

Iran has about 500 miles of very rugged terrain to the north of the Strait in which it can hide pretty much anything, including missles and drones it can use to attack ships. It's probably not something the brilliant Trump and brilliant Hegseth even knew about, since Trump "obliterated" a big part of the State Department that was watching Iran (State Department Middle East Purge).

This is gross negligance. Trump is a goddamn natural disaster.
 
Mac1958 said:
Amazing that he lifted the sanctions on Iran. Amazing but not surprising.

This is gross negligance. Trump is a goddamn natural disaster.
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Confusing is the word I would use

I want to tighten the noose around the mullahs not loosen it
 
15th post
Mac1958 said:
They've been planning for this moment for decades.

Evidently the only people on the planet who didn't know that were Trump, Hegseth, and the useful idiots.
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mac you have become a useful idiot for your new chums....
 
Papageorgio said:
I agree, you seem to thrive on it, wanting to believe that is.
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Iran and the Houthi's attacks aren't something I have to believe in. They happened. I posted that they happened.
 
Mac-7 said:
Confusing is the word I would use

I want to tighten the noose around the mullahs not loosen it
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Allowing Iran to profit from the sale of oil is not tightening the noose. It's counter productive idiocy.
 
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