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That's a meaningless evasion, being that the point being discussed is how as temperatures have suddenly shot up with no natural explanation. The fact that climate has changed naturally in the past does not prevent humans from changing climate now.
Of course there was an explanation...the climb out of the little ice age had been ongoing for quite some time, and in the final decades of the 20th century, the output of the sun was higher than it had been for several centuries.
An ice age is not necessary. Sustained cooling global temperatures would decrease sea level.Sorry hairball...a great deal of water would have to move from the oceans to ice fields in order to actually decrease sea level. The little ice age barely created a blip.
Again, you seem confused. I don't expect to see it. That would only happen if the sun was driving global warming, and it's not
The only one confused here is you hairball...it is the dogma your cult insists that you believe...it makes you stupid.
Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, ....
Yeah..it is pretty clear that you are...but I am still waiting for a measurement of a discrete wavelength of energy radiating down from the atmosphere made with an uncooled instrument...
No;. You're confusing total OLR with OLR in specific bands.[/quote}
Again.. you are the only one who is confused here hairball...the amount of IR escaping the atmosphere in the so called greenhouse gas wavelengths is all but immeasurable it is so small...except for that of water vapor..but feel free to provide evidence otherwise if you think it exists.
It predicts overall increasing specifc humidity. And that's obvserved.
And it predicts decreasing humidity...so it goes with unfalsifiable hypotheses that predict everything..''
Climate Change 2016: The Year the Future Arrived
clip: Human-caused “anthropogenic” influence was documented in 23 of 28 major global geographic regions. The events included increasing average temperature, warming of winter extremes, decreasing humidity due to warming, increasing dryness, increasing heavy precipitation, increased sunshine, more extreme drought, more extreme tropical cyclones, increased wildfire burn area and intensity, decreased arctic sea ice, more high tide flooding and decreased snowpack.
Climate change adaptation measure on agricultural communities of Dhye in Upper Mustang, Nepal
Clip: The study assessed that low rainfall and erratic pattern, shifting snowfall pattern, decreasing humidity, and increased air temperature created the water stress as the result dried up the spring and dropping of soil moisture which had direct negative impact on supporting healthy plant growth and animals had to travel further for fodder and water.
And I could go on and on...climate science predicts everything so no matter what happens, they say we told you so...increasing humidity, decreasing humidity, more snow, less snow, warmer, colder, more rain, less rain and any other thing that may happen in the climate...more and less of all of it...
And according to you, the energy absorbed then vanishes in the ether. That's why nobody pays attention to you.
Making up arguments now hairball? Is that what you have been reduced to like your fellow warmer buds?
As there's no evidence for such an insane claim, that wouldn't count as a previously unknown source.
Try reading something other than your cult dogma...
Discovery Of Massive Volcanic CO2 Emissions Puts Damper On Global Warming Theory
There is plenty of info out there....free for the taking...ask your priests, maybe they will give you permission to read some of it.
No, the hard data flatly contradicts that strange claim.[/uote]
Only the false "global average temperature" heavily massaged, manipulated, homogenized, and infilled...when you look at regional records, as thinking people do, you don't see a global trend towards warming....
The directly measured stratospheric cooling, increase in backradiation and decrease in outgoing OLR in the GHG bands have no natural explanation, thus your "It's natural!" theory is conclusively disproved.[/quote
There can be multiple reasons for stratospheric cooling..there is no back radiation, but feel free to provide a measurement of a discrete wavelength backradiating made with an uncooled instrument...OLR is increasing and has been for quite some time...and there isn't the first piece of observed, measured evidence which supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability.
Sorry hairball...you have been duped and the sad thing is that you want to be duped..