Massive Ballot scandal in Fairfax County, Va. Envelopes have holes that show if voter voted for Republicans.

[WEATHER53]

The security envelopes are handled by teams with DEM and GOP representatives.

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And the dot identifies who gets what

 

[WorldWatcher]

And the dot identifies who gets what

Wrong.

There is no "dot" on mail envelopes, the hole ONLY exists on inner security envelopes and again - the envelopes are handled by teams of DEM and GOP.

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[Eman623]

I'm not rightwinger, I'm WorldWatcher. Since we are two different people there is no "morphing" involved.

The tactile recognition feature (which was poorly placed) is required by Virginia law. The ability to quickly discern whether all ballots have been removed from a stack of security envelopes is also valid.

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So glad to hear the excuse for the hole is not morphing...,

BTW, I'm not sure it's tactile. Who can feel if a stack of security envelopes contains a ballot?

I think the hole is meant to be looked through. Visual, not tactile. If you have a stack of envelopes, you can look through the hole (which is on both sides of the envelope and make sure they are all empty (contain no ballots).

I'm looking at my California mail-in ballot which has the same exact feature, in a totally non-morphing way.

I agree the hole was poorly placed. It's impossible to put my ballot in the CA mail-in envelope in such a way to see how I've voted.

 

[Eman623]

And this here folks is showing how some people comment without becoming familiar with (a) the process and (b) the specifics of what is being discussed before jumping in.

No letter carriers would see the vote.

The issue is with the required tactile accommodation on the INNER SECURITY ENVELOPE. This envelope is then placed in the mailing envelope so the latter carrier would still not be able to see the vote.

The security envelop would then be processed by election officials working in teams with representative from both parties. To buy into the conspiracy theory it would take buy in from BOTH the DEM and GOP handlers.

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Inner security envelope? Is that even a thing? My CA ballot has no "inner" envelope.

Who says VA ballots have an inner envelope?

 

[WorldWatcher]

So glad to hear the excuse for the hole is not morphing...,

BTW, I'm not sure it's tactile. Who can feel if a stack of security envelopes contains a ballot?

I think the hole is meant to be looked through. Visual, not tactile. If you have a stack of envelopes, you can look through the hole (which is on both sides of the envelope and make sure they are all empty (contain no ballots).

I'm looking at my California mail-in ballot which has the same exact feature, in a totally non-morphing way.

I agree the hole was poorly placed. It's impossible to put my ballot in the CA mail-in envelope in such a way to see how I've voted.

You refer to a stack of envelopes.

The hole isn’t there for the election workers.

The hole is there per Virginia law for the visually impaired voter.

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[WorldWatcher]

Inner security envelope? Is that even a thing? My CA ballot has no "inner" envelope.

Who says VA ballots have an inner envelope?

Well one.

The state of Virginia if you were to check our laws.

And 2, me. I’m a Virginia voter that has voted by mail.

And 3, in the image below you can see California also uses mailing envelopes with an inner security envelope with a hole in it.

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[citygator]

Stay stupid, it's what you do best.

 

[1srelluc]

Those are my suggestions, so what is your detailed actions that you want Fairfax to take?

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Re-issue the mail-in ballots, there's plenty of time left.

Had it been done when the problem was discovered they would have already been in voter's hands by now.

 

[WEATHER53]

So glad to hear the excuse for the hole is not morphing...,

BTW, I'm not sure it's tactile. Who can feel if a stack of security envelopes contains a ballot?

I think the hole is meant to be looked through. Visual, not tactile. If you have a stack of envelopes, you can look through the hole (which is on both sides of the envelope and make sure they are all empty (contain no ballots).

I'm looking at my California mail-in ballot which has the same exact feature, in a totally non-morphing way.

I agree the hole was poorly placed. It's impossible to put my ballot in the CA mail-in envelope in such a way to see how I've voted.

The stuff about tactile is a lie

 

[WEATHER53]

Inner security envelope? Is that even a thing? My CA ballot has no "inner" envelope.

Who says VA ballots have an inner envelope?

It’s making things up to try and paint a legitimate reason

 

[WEATHER53]

You refer to a stack of envelopes.

The hole isn’t there for the election workers.

The hole is there per Virginia law for the visually impaired voter.

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They can’t see the hole and the paper is so thin and hole small they can’t feel where the hole is or isn’t

 

[WEATHER53]

Well one.

The state of Virginia if you were to check our laws.

And 2, me. I’m a Virginia voter that has voted by mail.

And 3, in the image below you can see California also uses mailing envelopes with an inner security envelope with a hole in it.

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The usual lib ruse of already having direct personal participation knowledge

 

[rightwinger]

rightwinger claimed otherwise in post #4. Seems like the excuse is morphing in real-time.

Why are there holes in the ballot envelope?
The holes are included for the following reasons:

• For the visually impaired: The holes serve as a tactile guide, helping voters with visual impairments locate the signature line on the ballot envelope to ensure they sign in the correct place.
• For election officials: The holes allow election workers to quickly confirm that a ballot has been removed from its envelope during the processing and counting phase. This prevents any accidental discarding of unopened ballots.

Why does it show any? Even showing one is enough to provide the means for an unscrupulous letter carrier or election official to "lose" Republican ballots.

If the hole had shown which ballots had Democrat votes would you still be so diffident?

Why do you give a fuk about a tiny hole?

Do you really think that amounts to a massive ballot scandal?

 

[whitehall]

Only a formal complaint? Can the democrat majority in Fairfax county be trusted to handle the complaint without political bias? Where is the media?

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

No problem disenfranchising the entire state of Florida because some numbskull

What's the right thing, disenfrancise, potentially, 85,000 voters because some nub put a hole in the ballots for disabled people (such disability marker required by Virginia Statute § 24.2-704) in a place that - at the end of the day - wasn't the best choice.

Some will say yes, because Fairfax votes - IIRC - as a higher proportion for DEMs. Any chance to throw out DEM votes is a good thing. AmIright?

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The democrats tried to disenfranchise the entire state of Florida because some “nub” approved the butterfly ballot and the dems invented the pregnant chad.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Why do you give a fuk about a tiny hole?

Do you really think that amounts to a massive ballot scandal?

If the tiny hole showed the vote was for a democrat there would be millions of leftists hyperventilating right now.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

OldFlame

Because the election workers who can have the opportunity to view it, are the ones who are in pairs of opposite parties with official election poll watchers.... remove the ballot from the envelope, who can already see what all the ballot votes are once they remove them from their envelope...., and have no means to discard a ballot....

There is a count of ballot envelopes before they are opened, and a count of the unfolded election ballot when they are done opening and from the envelopes, and they HAVE TO MATCH in count, before they move on to count scanning machines...and a count of the ballots when the scanning machine is done processing the batch, they too, have to match the initial count of ballot envelopes received by the election counting facility.

Any discarding or padding of votes inside the scanning facility will be caught, always.

How many other people besides election workers get a chance to view it between the time it’s placed in a mailbox and gets to the election workers. We will wait for your answer.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Certainly, when said hole indicates how a voter has voted.

Fairfax Co. sent them out so they should be held responsible to send out new ballots as there is plenty of time left.

Of course there’s plenty of time. It will be walisted but he dems and their media wing to keep this ballot in play. Every leftist on this board will defend this ballot with all their TDS.

 

[rightwinger]

If the tiny hole showed the vote was for a democrat there would be millions of leftists hyperventilating right now.

How the fuk does a tiny hole show anything?

You guys are freaking over nothing again

Do you think that hole is a massive ballot scandal?

 

[WorldWatcher]

The usual lib ruse of already having direct personal participation knowledge

I posted a picture of California ballots with the same type of hole.

One he said didn’t exist.

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