Massive Ballot scandal in Fairfax County, Va. Envelopes have holes that show if voter voted for Republicans.

The hole is to determine who voted against Abbie and therefore how many ballots will need to be “cured” after the counting has stopped (supposedly)
 
The hole is to determine who voted against Abbie and therefore how many ballots will need to be “cured” after the counting has stopped (supposedly)

The hole for the visually impaired (and that means the voter, not implying you are visually impaired) isn't over the Governor vote.

Tactile modifications to the security envelope are required under Virginia law. The section was identified up thread.

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The hole for the visually impaired (and that means the voter, not implying you are visually impaired) isn't over the Governor vote.

Tactile modifications to the security envelope are required under Virginia law. The section was identified up thread.

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How are visually impaired assisted by a tiny tiny hole with a small black dot?
In fact it’s a hindrance.
 
And others testify it matches the exact spot where here oppositions mark would go

I'm sorry, could you try that again?

My understanding from the images posted that there is only 1 hole showing a vote circle and that was for the AG vote, not the governor vote.

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How are visually impaired assisted by a tiny tiny hole with a small black dot?
In fact it’s a hindrance.

You don't seem to get what the hole is for. It has nothing to do with the vote, it has to do with a visually impaired person being able to tactilely (in a manner related to the sense of touch) properly identify the security envelope and that their ballot is placed in the correct envelope for sealing.

The "small black dot" is irrelevant.

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You don't seem to get what the hole is for. It has nothing to do with the vote, it has to do with a visually impaired person being able to tactilely (in a manner related to the sense of touch) properly identify the security envelope and that their ballot is placed in the correct envelope for sealing.

The "small black dot" is irrelevant.

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Yeah it’s just a coincidence the dot fits right in the hole which is not Braille nor tactile enough to determine anything. Stop shielding yourself with the blind folks lie
 
Yeah it’s just a coincidence the dot fits right in the hole which is not Braille nor tactile enough to determine anything. Stop shielding yourself with the blind folks lie

It's not a "blind folks lie". Tactile recognition on the security envelope is a requirement under Virginia law.

Read the thread, I'm not defending the vote being visible. I've said it was poor placement.

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It's not a "blind folks lie". Tactile recognition on the security envelope is a requirement under Virginia law.

Read the thread, I'm not defending the vote being visible. I've said it was poor placement.

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So since they messed it up don't you think Fairfax Co. should make it right?
 
The hole isn’t there for ballot signature. It’s for the vision impaired to ensure they are using the security envelope.
rightwinger claimed otherwise in post #4. Seems like the excuse is morphing in real-time.

Why are there holes in the ballot envelope?
The holes are included for the following reasons:

  • For the visually impaired: The holes serve as a tactile guide, helping voters with visual impairments locate the signature line on the ballot envelope to ensure they sign in the correct place.
  • For election officials: The holes allow election workers to quickly confirm that a ballot has been removed from its envelope during the processing and counting phase. This prevents any accidental discarding of unopened ballots.
The hole only shows one circle is the ballot is inserted a certain way. It didn’t shore all the votes.
Why does it show any? Even showing one is enough to provide the means for an unscrupulous letter carrier or election official to "lose" Republican ballots.

If the hole had shown which ballots had Democrat votes would you still be so diffident?
 
With the cheaters history, every thinker knows how a tiny ring hole which will have zero tactile assistance appears on a envelope and has a black dot fitting perfectly behind that tiny hole
 
I know you would.

On the other hand when someone inserted a test ballot in the "right way" and the hole was over blank space or on the back.

However if the ballot were flipped front/back or vertically the hole was empty.

Poor testing.

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Yeah, okay. :rolleyes:
 
So since they messed it up don't you think Fairfax Co. should make it right?

Absolutley.

Now define what "should make it right" means.

In my world it would be:

#1 Seperate ballots where the problem existed since - logically speaking - it wouldn't be all ballots. As the visibility of the one circle would depend on how the ballot was inserted in the security envelope.

#2 For those impacted by the problem, count all votes except for the AG as it is the only one in question.

#3 Election officials contact and "cure" the ballot to verify voter intent.
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Those are my suggestions, so what is your detailed actions that you want Fairfax to take?

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rightwinger claimed otherwise in post #4. Seems like the excuse is morphing in real-time.

Why are there holes in the ballot envelope?
The holes are included for the following reasons:

  • For the visually impaired: The holes serve as a tactile guide, helping voters with visual impairments locate the signature line on the ballot envelope to ensure they sign in the correct place.
  • For election officials: The holes allow election workers to quickly confirm that a ballot has been removed from its envelope during the processing and counting phase. This prevents any accidental discarding of unopened ballots.

I'm not rightwinger, I'm WorldWatcher. Since we are two different people there is no "morphing" involved.

The tactile recognition feature (which was poorly placed) is required by Virginia law. The ability to quickly discern whether all ballots have been removed from a stack of security envelopes is also valid.

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Why does it show any? Even showing one is enough to provide the means for an unscrupulous letter carrier or election official to "lose" Republican ballots.

If the hole had shown which ballots had Democrat votes would you still be so diffident?

And this here folks is showing how some people comment without becoming familiar with (a) the process and (b) the specifics of what is being discussed before jumping in.

No letter carriers would see the vote.

The issue is with the required tactile accommodation on the INNER SECURITY ENVELOPE. This envelope is then placed in the mailing envelope so the latter carrier would still not be able to see the vote.

The security envelop would then be processed by election officials working in teams with representative from both parties. To buy into the conspiracy theory it would take buy in from BOTH the DEM and GOP handlers.

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