Mass Killings.....Why it Happens, mostly here, in the USA. Why?

[HereWeGoAgain]

No one is asking for a ban or confiscation in this country. That is just right win fear mongering.
Stop obfuscating and deflecting. We are talking about gun violence in THIS country. Not China. Nor are we making comparisons.
Other countries don't have this level of gun violence. We are the only country that seems to suffer from this level of carnage.

Do you ever stop to ask yourself why?...you know, beyond the usual alt-right deflections.

You cant be serious.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

You cant be serious.

About why other countries don't have our level of gun violence?
Why yes.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Yes, who else but an arm's industry Con Boy would be desperate enough to pretend that Mother Jones supported their ignorant ravings.

 

[Grumblenuts]

To be fair here, Jim was talking about the number of shooters, not the number of victims. I misunderstood the numbers.

But the second point holds.

Don't be so hard on yourself. Jim never knows wtf he's talking about.

 

[Mac-7]

A proliferation of and easy access to semi-automatic weapons that can kill multiple people in one short sitting.

Not all that hard to figure out.

That explains how

But not why

We have a population that has been driven insane of the dominant liberal culture

And some are so damaged they want others to suffer as much as they sre suffering

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Some people get tired of being bullied, ignored, lied to, and treated like they don't matter.

Kids go to schools with guns, because they're tired of being bullied and those in charge ignoring it.

People go to stores, malls, and theaters and open fire, because they're sick and tired of being lied to and treat like shit by government offices, the police, and every other such entity out there thats supposed to HELP people, not ignore them and make up excuses as to WHY they CANNOT do their jobs!!!

And a small minority of these people are just out for revenge because their girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband did them wrong.

 

[2aguy]

No one is asking for a ban or confiscation in this country. That is just right win fear mongering.
Stop obfuscating and deflecting. We are talking about gun violence in THIS country. Not China. Nor are we making comparisons.
Other countries don't have this level of gun violence. We are the only country that seems to suffer from this level of carnage.

Do you ever stop to ask yourself why?...you know, beyond the usual alt-right deflections.

Yes……we have a politicalnp

No one is asking for a ban or confiscation in this country. That is just right win fear mongering.
Stop obfuscating and deflecting. We are talking about gun violence in THIS country. Not China. Nor are we making comparisons.
Other countries don't have this level of gun violence. We are the only country that seems to suffer from this level of carnage.

Do you ever stop to ask yourself why?...you know, beyond the usual alt-right deflections.

One, you can only say that about carnage because you won't acknowledge the 15 million innocent men, women and children murdered by their governments in Europe in just 6 years, the 25 million murdered by their government in Russia, or the 70 million murdered in China....

Total U.S. gun murders in our entire 246 year history, where the victims are mostly criminals, not innocent men, women and children?

2,460,000

That is why you ignore the carnage in those other countries because guns in the hands of law abiding people isn't the problem here.....

 

[2aguy]

No one is asking for a ban or confiscation in this country. That is just right win fear mongering.
Stop obfuscating and deflecting. We are talking about gun violence in THIS country. Not China. Nor are we making comparisons.
Other countries don't have this level of gun violence. We are the only country that seems to suffer from this level of carnage.

Do you ever stop to ask yourself why?...you know, beyond the usual alt-right deflections.

The reason for our level of gun violence?

1) Culture....The other countries have cultures created by feudalism and strict social classes......and violence is low because the people have hundreds of years of being subservient to ruling classes.

2) Police states......the governments of other countries have police powers over their citizens that we do not have.....and thus the people are passive and easily controlled

3) The majority of our gun deaths take place in cities controlled by the democrat party....the democrat party has made it their goal to wreck local police forces.....which makes those police forces less willing to enforce the law, creates mass retirements and quitting....

4) the democrat party and its judges, politicians, and prosecutors keep releasing the most violent criminals over and over again no matter how many violent crimes they commit.



Notice how none of those things involve normal people who own guns....and do not use those guns for any kind of crime.....?

But since all of the above are true, and our crime problem involves keeping violent criminals in jail, and not banning and confiscating guns...you could care less about them.

 

[2aguy]

No one is asking for a ban or confiscation in this country. That is just right win fear mongering.
Stop obfuscating and deflecting. We are talking about gun violence in THIS country. Not China. Nor are we making comparisons.
Other countries don't have this level of gun violence. We are the only country that seems to suffer from this level of carnage.

Do you ever stop to ask yourself why?...you know, beyond the usual alt-right deflections.

The democrat party and it's leadership is exactly talking about banning and confiscating guns.

 

[2aguy]

No one is asking for a ban or confiscation in this country. That is just right win fear mongering.
Stop obfuscating and deflecting. We are talking about gun violence in THIS country. Not China. Nor are we making comparisons.
Other countries don't have this level of gun violence. We are the only country that seems to suffer from this level of carnage.

Do you ever stop to ask yourself why?...you know, beyond the usual alt-right deflections.

5) The countries of Europe were destroyed 2 times with 2 world wars.....they pushed back the societies and their development for decades...China, from 1949 onwards murdered 70 million people..........Russia 25 million people...........in the U.S....where we didn't have the societal destruction of the war, our families began to be attacked by the democrats starting in the 1960s with the Great Society.....we had declining violence in the country going into the 1960s...but the mid 1960s, with the democrats undermining inner city families.....our crime sky rocketed.....and didn't start to go down until the 1990s...after more and more people started to own guns by the way...so guns are not the problem....since our gun murder and gun violence rates went down as more people bought, owned and carried guns.....

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019 (in 2020 that number is 21.52 million)...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
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[JackOfNoTrades]

Yes……we have a politicalnp



One, you can only say that about carnage because you won't acknowledge the 15 million innocent men, women and children murdered by their governments in Europe in just 6 years, the 25 million murdered by their government in Russia, or the 70 million murdered in China....

Total U.S. gun murders in our entire 246 year history, where the victims are mostly criminals, not innocent men, women and children?

2,460,000

That is why you ignore the carnage in those other countries because guns in the hands of law abiding people isn't the problem here.....

You can't even stay on point in the thread you started.
We are not talking about China, or Russia, or what happened in past history.
We don't talk about carnage in other countries because as far as large scale gun violence goes....IT DOESN'T HAPPEN!
We are the only country with a weapons proliferation issue and a gun violence issue so off the charts it DWARFS most other countries.

 

[2aguy]

You can't even stay on point in the thread you started.
We are not talking about China, or Russia, or what happened in past history.
We don't talk about carnage in other countries because as far as large scale gun violence goes....IT DOESN'T HAPPEN!
We are the only country with a weapons proliferation issue and a gun violence issue so off the charts it DWARFS most other countries.

You mentioned other countries ....I pointed out that you don't want to talk about their actual murder rates...in the millions.

Europe....15 million innocent men, women and children between 1939-1945.... 6 years.

U.S. over our entire 246 year history, gun murder? 2,460,000......not innocent men, women and children, majority of the victims are criminals murdered by other criminals.

Our gun violence problem is due to the democrat party and its policies...not because normal people own guns....guns they do not use to shoot anyone.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

You mentioned other countries ....I pointed out that you don't want to talk about their actual murder rates...in the millions.

Europe....15 million innocent men, women and children between 1939-1945.... 6 years.

U.S. over our entire 246 year history, gun murder? 2,460,000......not innocent men, women and children, majority of the victims are criminals murdered by other criminals.

Our gun violence problem is due to the democrat party and its policies...not because normal people own guns....guns they do not use to shoot anyone.

What does 1939-1945 have to do with gun violence in the US today??...Answer...nothing.
We are talking about TODAY. Ah..nothing like shooting your own OP in the head...constantly.

Democrats....BAD!!!...but those guns that get run into large cities come from gun friendly states...that are run by REPUBLICANS!

 

[Mashmont]

I disagree, because I almost always see cops draw and point guns illegally at unarmed people ALL THE TIME.
While they likely do it the most with Blacks, it is clear cops are inherently dangerous, out of control, and do not at all feel restricted by the laws all the rest of us are forced to follow.

You should spend a day in the shoes of a cop assigned to the ghetto beat.

 

[2aguy]

What does 1939-1945 have to do with gun violence in the US today??...Answer...nothing.
We are talking about TODAY. Ah..nothing like shooting your own OP in the head...constantly.

Democrats....BAD!!!...but those guns that get run into large cities come from gun friendly states...that are run by REPUBLICANS!

Everything.........they murdered more people in 6 years than gun murder in our entire 246 year history......and they gave up their guns before the slaughter having been given the same arguments you idiots are making today.....they would be safer, the police and government would protect them....

You guys want us to give up our guns, knowing the history of governments around the world.....and that is why we don't care what you say...