Make no mistake about it - Russia and America are at war.

[Sunni Man]

Some will say, but it's just a proxy war.
Yes, that is true, for now.
The difference is the previous proxy wars took place in distant lands, like Vietnam and Afghanistan.
But this time the proxy war is taking place on Russia's door step.
Thus, Russia doesn't see Ukraine as a proxy war, but a tacit declaration of war by the U.S. and EU.
Leaving Russia no choice but to go all out for the win, regardless of the cost.

 

[Toro]

Sunni Man is rooting for Russia

 

[Donald H]

Some will say, but it's just a proxy war.
Yes, that is true, for now.
The difference is the previous proxy wars took place in distant lands, like Vietnam and Afghanistan.
But this time the proxy war is taking place on Russia's door step.
Thus, Russia doesn't see Ukraine as a proxy war, but a tacit declaration of war by the U.S. and EU.
Leaving Russia no choice but to go all out for the win, regardless of the cost.

Yes, of course it is a war between America and Russia, with Ukraine as America's proxy. But the other difference is that Russia has no proxy.

Thanks for bringing to light the very basics! It's simple but it needs to be understood!

 

[Donald H]

Sunni Man is rooting for Russia

I hope he's with me and is rooting for a peaceful settlement.
I can't be sure one way or the other unless he makes his intentions known.

 

[Sunni Man]

I'm all for a peace settlement.
But with the U.S. and its EU allies ratcheting up the fighting by pouring in weapons by the truck load to the Ukrainian insurgents.
This war is going last a very long time.
Unless it goes nuclear.
Then it will be over in a few minutes. ...

 

[Donald H]

I'm all for a peace settlement.
But with the U.S. and its EU allies ratcheting up the fighting by pouring in weapons by the truck load to the Ukrainian insurgents.
This war is going last a very long time.
Unless it goes nuclear.
Then it will be over in a few minutes. ...

It's going to last a long time if Russia agrees to that. Russia might, on the other hand decide to make it a very quick war with non-nuclear weapons only. That's the unspoken truth that can't be acknowledged yet by the US.

It also could be the trigger for a nuclear war being started by America, with an understanding by America's military and government that it could be won.

There's just no way we can depart from the fact that this is a war that is being played according to mutually agreed rules!

Russia may decide at any time that it won't or can't play by the rules any longer. America could too.

If Russia stops playing by the rules, what would it take to end it? A couple of hundred cruise missiles on Kiev?

A peaceful resolution is essential.

 

[lg325]

Russia and the U.S.A. have been at war since the end of WW2. Democracy V. Totalitarianism has been fought by proxy on the African continent, Asia, South, and Central America. The Ukraine Conflict is the closest we have come to all-out conventional war among different nations.

 

[Sunni Man]

Sunni Man is rooting for Russia

And?? ...

 

[miketx]

Some will say, but it's just a proxy war.
Yes, that is true, for now.
The difference is the previous proxy wars took place in distant lands, like Vietnam and Afghanistan.
But this time the proxy war is taking place on Russia's door step.
Thus, Russia doesn't see Ukraine as a proxy war, but a tacit declaration of war by the U.S. and EU.
Leaving Russia no choice but to go all out for the win, regardless of the cost.

Thank God we have a demented pedophile to lead us!

 

[SavannahMann]

We are at war? Good. Launch the nukes and wipe Russia off the face of the earth. Destroy them for all time.

 

[Ringo]

What is the difference between the Western invasion of Iraq and the Russian special operation in Ukraine? In Iraq, the West has not found any bioweapons of Saddam, which became the basis for the invasion, but in Ukraine biolabs have just been found, as well as their strange funding by the US Department of Defense.

 

[badger2]

I'm all for a peace settlement.
But with the U.S. and its EU allies ratcheting up the fighting by pouring in weapons by the truck load to the Ukrainian insurgents.
This war is going last a very long time.
Unless it goes nuclear.
Then it will be over in a few minutes. ...

You may be right. Kadyrov said yesterday that the talks are useless and the fighting should continue. Mariupol is now rubble, so the civilian shield has been removed.

 

[miketx]

What is the difference between the Western invasion of Iraq and the Russian special operation in Ukraine? In Iraq, the West has not found any bioweapons of Saddam, which became the basis for the invasion, but in Ukraine biolabs have just been found, as well as their strange funding by the US Department of Defense.

IIRC the thing they were looking for in Iraq was weapons of mass destruction, not just bio-weapons. They eventually found Russian Migs buried which if configured properly could take out masses. According to one media video I saw.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

What is the difference between the Western invasion of Iraq and the Russian special operation in Ukraine? In Iraq, the West has not found any bioweapons of Saddam, which became the basis for the invasion, but in Ukraine biolabs have just been found, as well as their strange funding by the US Department of Defense.

Maybe the U.S. should invade Mexico and show the World what Russia, China and Iran have down there or how about Central America?

Want to know the real scary truth or would you prefer to stay naive?

 

[Ringo]

. They eventually found Russian Migs buried which if configured properly could take out masses.

-Oh, good. So that's what was in Powell's test tube at the UN, powder from Soviet planes!

 

[miketx]

-Oh, good. So that's what was in Powell's test tube at the UN, powder from Soviet planes!

Make fun of it all you want, I saw the video, and bombs are weapons of mass destruction.

 

[GHook20]

Some will say, but it's just a proxy war.
Yes, that is true, for now.
The difference is the previous proxy wars took place in distant lands, like Vietnam and Afghanistan.
But this time the proxy war is taking place on Russia's door step.
Thus, Russia doesn't see Ukraine as a proxy war, but a tacit declaration of war by the U.S. and EU.
Leaving Russia no choice but to go all out for the win, regardless of the cost.

This is showing how the new wars will be fought in the global economy…. Bankrupt the other side and outrage the people.

Who will blink first.

 

[badger2]

What is the difference between the Western invasion of Iraq and the Russian special operation in Ukraine? In Iraq, the West has not found any bioweapons of Saddam, which became the basis for the invasion, but in Ukraine biolabs have just been found, as well as their strange funding by the US Department of Defense.

Yes, and what it leads to is Fau Chi's involvement, because the biolab at Kharkiv is one of the most significant. A photo of the bird flu facility at Kharkiv has been posted (USMB search 'Kharkiv bird flu'). Fau Chi's testimony to the Senate about bird flu occurred on 2012 Ap 26. Chapter 12 of Kennedy's The Real Anthony Fauci explains the origins of U.S. bioweapons research, Obama (Arab son fronting as a black) and Lugar went to Perm, Russia in 2005. Lugar Center, Tbilisi, was where the Bulgarian journalist, Dilyana Gaytandzhieva confronted on video, the entomologist who worked there.

Tblisi is an epicenter (Ru. ochagovost'iu) of leishmaniasis vectored by sandflies. Sandflies on Crimea are abundant due to numerous caves in the mountains. The tick vector of Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever stops precisely at the latitude of the Kharkiv lab, 50 deg. N latitude, near the Russian border. Therefore, since sandflies also attack birds, the obvious trajectory for CCHF is to study temperature mutants of this virus at Kharkiv lab and experiment with avian vectors that may take it above 50 N. latitude and into Russia.

 

[badger2]

Thank God we have a demented pedophile to lead us!

The pedophile is alone with his CIA handlers. There is no god to thank.

 

[miketx]

Laugh it up ringo. Let us know when the media tells what happened.