MAGA and die hard Trump supporters..... The difference

[BULLDOG]

I'm support MAGA. But I can't stand Trump.
I mean, who doesn't support making America great again?
I think by now we can all safely assume there's a difference between TL's (Trump loyalist) and MAGA.
Although there's a lot of TL's in MAGA. But more and more are realizing that Trump's version of MAGA is way different than what he campaigned on. To Trump, it was more of a campaign slogan.

Both sides claim they want to make America great. In one form or fashion.

Only a fool would think trump gives a shit about the US. The only thing that crooked fool has ever cared about is himself.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Progressives will dissect all the good Trump is trying to do if they come to power. That is what they did on the first day of Joe. We are still paying for the executive orders signed that day. Trying to recover from Covid and you idiots hamstrung the oil industry for your grand global climate scams. And your voters, led by Progressive Socialist Communist women are sending the nation into a death spiral. You will not like the dictatorial results. People become primal and the organization of a massive uniform wearing despotic nation will have little tolerance and karma will rule.

You keep saying "You" and "yours". What does this mean? I am opposed to literally everything they stand for.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Your thread I responded to didn't read or sound that way to me.

Which thread?

 

[YoursTruly]

Only a fool would think trump gives a shit about the US. The only thing that crooked fool has ever cared about is himself.

I think Trump wants to do some good things for the US. But mainly to make himself look good. That's the narcissist in him.
I also think he does us dirty in some area's too, to help his elite friends. That's the crook in him.

 

[YoursTruly]

You keep saying "You" and "yours". What does this mean? I am opposed to literally everything they stand for.

It's a Trump tribe thing. They think there's only two side. If you're not a Trump loyalist, then you must be a democrat/biden supporter/radical progressive.

They're retarded.

 

[Billiejeens]

People like Thomas Massie have been trying to make America great again. They have been putting America 1st.
But the political leaders in MAGA, are always bashing them.

When one is part of a team one needs to be a team player.

Massie is unable to work with other people.

Never built a concenus.

 

[Orangecat]

And?????????

So did I. So did a lot of us who aren't Trump loyalist.

What’s a Trump loyalist? I think he’s doing a pretty god job so far. Is he perfect? No, but no one is. I believe he is spending his twilight years trying to to make America great, when he could be just enjoying wealth and fame. I respect him for that.

 

[YoursTruly]

When one is part of a team one needs to be a team player.

Massie is unable to work with other people.

Never built a concenus.

Not when your "team" is a bunch of big spending, big government RINO's. Massie's voters didn't elect him to just go with the flow. he campaigned on fiscal conservatism and abiding by the constitution. And that's why they elected him. Over and over and over. Even when Trump attacked him last time.

 

[skye]

What’s a Trump loyalist? I think he’s doing a pretty god job so far. Is he perfect? No, but no one is. I believe he is spending his twilight years trying to to make America great, when he could be just enjoying wealth and fame. I respect him for that.

^^^

 

[YoursTruly]

What’s a Trump loyalist? I think he’s doing a pretty god job so far. Is he perfect? No, but no one is. I believe he is spending his twilight years trying to to make America great, when he could be just enjoying wealth and fame. I respect him for that.

I'm sure you do. Most TL's do.

 

[Lockback]

What’s a Trump loyalist? I think he’s doing a pretty god job so far. Is he perfect? No, but no one is. I believe he is spending his twilight years trying to to make America great, when he could be just enjoying wealth and fame. I respect him for that.

Totally.
They've tried to destroy him every way possible: fake criminal charges in Democrat areas, ridiculous impeachments, lies in mainstream media, even trying to assassinate him.
And he just keeps bouncing back up. One tough son of a *****.
He ain't perfect.
But as I told a buddy of mine, "He's an asshole. But he's MY asshole."

 

[dblack]

But as I told a buddy of mine, "He's an asshole. But he's MY asshole."

The heart and soul of evil.

 

[kyzr]

1. That's a flat out lie. Trump, Bondi and the rest have been changing their story, lying, dodging and stalling way too much since January. All democrats signed the discharge petition. Johnson even started the house summer recess early to keep the discharge petition from getting signed by the 218.

OK, the files are released. Now what? Happy?

2. I've already covered this. And you know it. Stop stalling.

You typed non-facts. I posted the CBO link proving the BBB took Biden's $1.8T 2025 deficit to the 2026 deficit of $240b, which could balance considering tariffs, DOGE, rate cuts, 3% GDP growth, and claw-backs.

Trump tax bill will add $2.4 trillion to the deficit and leave 10.9 million more uninsured, CBO says

President Donald Trump’s big bill is likely to unleash trillions in tax cuts and slash spending, but also spike deficits by $2.4 trillion over the decade and leave some 10.9 million more people without health insurance.

apnews.com

3. And he didn't end one war in his first term. And the Iran thing, wasn't any of our business. And neither is Ukraine. But Trump is still supplying Ukraine. He was supposed to have ended that war before taking office. Remember?

We're in his 2nd term. Ukraine is important to NATO. Bombing Iran's enrichment site was a good thing. Putin is hanging tough. You want Russia to capture Ukraine? At least Trump is making the EU pony up.

4. He's fixing to have to bail out the beef ranchers. Not to mention all the new subsidies he just granted Pfizer and that other big pharma company.

He is importing beef from Argentina to reduce the price that will hit $10/# next summer, not good before the mid-terms. Hope you like when the democrats take the House back.

5. No, he bullies them. And we have to pay for it. All that extra tariff revenue, came from us US consumers.

Not true. Only about 22% of the tariffs are paid by US consumers, and only if they buy foreign goods.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91402824/economists-calculated-how-much-trump-tariffs-will-cost-americans-the-numbers-are-staggering

"You can think of tariffs as indirect taxes, which increase prices, thereby decreasing the purchasing power and income of American households. That’s because tariff costs are often passed from businesses onto consumers. In fact, U.S. consumers absorbed 22% of tariff costs through June..."

6.. No he's not. (getting China to purchase more produce)

MSN

China Makes Biggest Soybean Buy in Two Years; Trump Urges More​

Massie is a fiscal and constitutional conservative. He only votes against Trump/Johnson, when the legislation either spends way too much or goes against the constitution. As if that was wrong. You're loyalty to the RINO's is retarded. Especially when we're $38 trillion in debt.

Politics is a team sport. Massie was elected as a Republican. He should vote with the Republican majority to get the agenda thru. If he keeps voting with democrats he will get benched. If you're concerned about the $38T debt, voting against Republicans only makes the debt much worse when democrats rule. There are no "Trump Loyalists", only Republicans and RINOs.
Massie's "protest votes" are not helpful, they just make him an obstructionist. If he wants to be president run for it in 2028.

 

[JWBooth]

Not when your "team" is a bunch of big spending, big government RINO's. Massie's voters didn't elect him to just go with the flow. he campaigned on fiscal conservatism and abiding by the constitution. And that's why they elected him. Over and over and over. Even when Trump attacked him last time.

Some silly twit responds that Tom Massie never built a consensus.
427 - 1
The dude is such a failure. [/sarcasm]

 

[JWBooth]

Some silly twit responds that Tom Massie never built a consensus.
427 - 1
The dude is such a failure. [/sarcasm]

Ooooof, did I say twit. Meant to spell that with an 'a'

 

[kyzr]

Ooooof, did I say twit. Meant to spell that with an 'a'

Massie is an obstructionist, he needs to be replaced.
He did not build the Epstein consensus, it was a popular position all along.

 

[JWBooth]

Massie is an obstructionist, he needs to be replaced.
He did not build the Epstein consensus, it was a popular position all along.

If I dropped my IQ thirty points I might start agreeing with you.

 

[Lockback]

The heart and soul of evil.

Who?
Trump? Or me?
The American Left is out of control and needs to be reined in and ruined. And Trump is the most qualified to do it at this point. That makes me happy.

 

[dblack]

Who?
Trump? Or me?

Anyone using that excuse.

The American Left is out of control and needs to be reined in and ruined. And Trump is the most qualified to do it at this point. That makes me happy.

Yes, I know you guys are terrified of the left, and yeah, they suck. But so does Trump. The two party system is utterly dysfunctional. It has us voting for bad candidates on purpose. That will never produce good results.

Ds and Rs are currently offering us a "choice" between socialism and fascism. I'm not about to endorse either one, no matter how afraid I am.

 

[Lockback]

Anyone using that excuse.

Yes, I know you guys are terrified of the left, and yeah, they suck. But so does Trump. The two party system is utterly dysfunctional. It has us voting for bad candidates on purpose. That will never produce good results.

Ds and Rs are currently offering us a "choice" between socialism and fascism. I'm not about to endorse either one, no matter how afraid I am.

"Fascism"??

You really don't have a clue.