MAGA and die hard Trump supporters..... The difference

[JWBooth]

Christofascism

You goobers come up with the funniest shit.

The Catholics, Presbyterians, nor the Episcoplaians, or Lutherans do not participate in the 19th century invention of dispensationalism by Darby and Moody and spread by the use of Scofield’s nonsense study bibles. Until this became vogue in the US none of the varied denominations did.

 

[Hafar1014]

Goes back @ 1400 years, to Muhammad and his 'Satanic versus'=Koran.
Two factoids of Islam, either unknown to many and overlooked by Islamophiles.
1) Muhammad claimed he was commanded by Allah to fight all men(humans) until all of humanity accepted Allah/Islam. The whole world, all of humanity must be converted. Until then, the forever "holy" war - Jihad will continue.

No Allah - No Peace
Know Allah - Know Peace

2) Islamic Paradise/Heaven is many levels/layers.
Quiet, peaceful, non-violent Muslims will get the basement level.
Higher levels, greater "accommodations" and more rewards* are for the Holy Warriors, the more they kill and enslave the higher their penthouse, the more the other rewards**.

* One of those rewards oft mentioned is the "70 virgins" implying young nubile women ...
** ... pederasty being a centuries old and current Arab custom, those "virgins" also include plenty of little boys.

Islam is inherently violent.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Stop acting like JanetTheGreat supports Muslims or Islam. That's a lame jab, dude.

Ignorant and suicidal advice from Yours9/11Truthy. This song is for you:

 

[YoursTruly]

Except Janet the Great doesn’t respect our religion, as she exclaims “their religion denies the divinity of Christ!”

I thought she said being against Israel had nothing to do with being against Jews? yeah, riiiiiight…..

Jews think Jesus was a prophet. Not the son of god.

 

[YoursTruly]

Ignorant and suicidal advice from Yours9/11Truthy. This song is for you:

Changing the subject isn't going to make your statement any less lame.

 

[Hafar1014]

Jews think Jesus was a prophet. Not the son of god.

Many of us believe he never existed at all because there is no original sin in Genesis therefore no reason for Jesus to exist

 

[YoursTruly]

Islam is inherently violent.

Who here is saying they ain't?

 

[Lisa558]

Jews think Jesus was a prophet. Not the son of god.

Jews don’t think Jesus was a prophet. Our religion makes no reference to him at all.

 

[kyzr]

Because the RINO's in congress controls the purse strings. And Trump signs every massive spending bill into law.
They grow the debt. Grow the deficit. Grow the debt ceiling.
This is what helps create inflation and destroys the USD value. And severely hurts the economy. Especially the economic recovery.

We're having a good discussion so far, and I don't want to take it off the rails, but you are not current with this post, see my links.
Republicans in Congress trimmed $1.5T off Biden's last budget, and the CBO scored it as adding $2.4T over 10-years, or $240b a year deficit, down from Biden's 2025 deficit of $1.8T. New tariff revenue of $400b takes it to balance.

Trump tax bill will add $2.4 trillion to the deficit and leave 10.9 million more uninsured, CBO says

President Donald Trump’s big bill is likely to unleash trillions in tax cuts and slash spending, but also spike deficits by $2.4 trillion over the decade and leave some 10.9 million more people without health insurance.

apnews.com

China doesn't devalue their currency. They simply keep their currency stable. They just don't over inflate it like our government does ours. Their prices and wages increase in small increments. As our should.
China devaluing their currency is just US political rhetoric. They can say this, because most people don't understand it.

Yes China devalues their currency.

Why does China depreciate its currency? (2025)

When the yuan weakened past the key psychological level of 7 per dollar in 2019, it went on to depreciate another 2.6% to 7.1854 before stabilizing. The depreciation was due to factors that were less “toxic” for the currency than they are now, said David Qu, an economist covering China for...

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That and a whole bunch of other BS that both sides spend. Trump funded "gender studies." Most of that USAID crap that Elon & DOGE found, was being funded in Trumps first administration.

Trump defunded gender studies

https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-s-ban-funds-promote-gender-ideology-could-threaten-hundreds-nih-research-projects

Did you forget that the GOP has the trifecta now?
Are you not allowed to call out their waste, fraud and over spending?

Actually DOGE identified $214b of waste, Trump also put USAID under Rubio at State.

You're making out like I'm some sort of democrat supporter. And I'm NOT going to allow you to run with that false narrative. Again, I do not support any big spending, big government polities or politicians. Regardless of what party they're affiliated with.
But as someone who politically leans further right than 95% of republicans, I say we need to get our own fiscal house in order. Then we'll have something to say about how bad the democrats are. Atm, I don't even care about the democrats. What they say or what they do, because they're in the minority. And our own GOP is leaning way further left than they campaigned on.

When you complain about Trump and the Republicans you sound like a democrat. When you don't fix the ACA the MSM says you are throwing 20,000,000 off healthcare. It doesn't matter that the democrats ended the subsidy. The mid-terms are coming and we don't want those 20,000,000 voting for democrats.

GOP voters need to pull the party back right of center.

We are right of center, in the sweet spot, if we can keep the majority without losing too many "purists" who lose elections.

They're driving us off a cliff, and their supporters are bragging about how good of a driver they are.

Democrats are headed for the cliff, Trump is trying to grow the economy, can he get it growing in time.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Oh gosh. Another thread hijacked and turned into a Jew thread?

They are a committed bunch, for sure.

At least the thread went a little longer this time before the usual suspects showed up with that tired routine.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

I don't understand what people get out of self identifying with "MAGA", or any ideology. Really people need to think for themselves and stop thinking in terms of Democrat, Republican, etc. The die hard MAGA people who self identify themselves as such and refuse to question it are just the same as the radical SJWs. When you question them, they turn into a swarm of angry bees.

 

[YoursTruly]

People like Thomas Massie have been trying to make America great again. They have been putting America 1st.
But the political leaders in MAGA, are always bashing them.

 

[HikerGuy83]

You would rather have butt-heads that call you a basket-full of deplorable for opposing them while they are pitching and implementing socialist~pseudo-communist hype and fundamental change to our founding principles ???

If I wanted that, I would not have voted for Trump these past 3 elections.

I'll take a right wing butthead over a left wing anything....any day of any week of any month of any year.

 

[kyzr]

People like Thomas Massie have been trying to make America great again. They have been putting America 1st.
But the political leaders in MAGA, are always bashing them.

JD Vance was asked about Massie, he explained that Massie was out of step with the Republican agenda when we need every vote

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5581433-massie-vance-trump-turning-point-usa/

“When leaders of my own party protect sex traffickers, spend our grandkids into oblivion, fund endless wars, lockdown our citizens, bailout corporations, bow to other countries, and hurt small farmers,” Massie wrote early Thursday on the social platform X, appearing to address the vice president’s remarks.

1. no one is protecting sex traffickers but democrats, who lost 320,000 kids

2. Republicans cut $1.5T off Biden's last budget

3. There are no wars under Trump, Biden kept throwing money at Ukraine

4. no bailouts, unless the democrats subsidize the ACA

5. Trump doesn't bow to other countries, his tariffs show that

6. China hurt small farmers, Trump is getting them to purchase more produce

Massie is just an obstructionist, and needs to go.

 

[YoursTruly]

JD Vance was asked about Massie, he explained that Massie was out of step with the Republican agenda when we need every vote

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5581433-massie-vance-trump-turning-point-usa/

“When leaders of my own party protect sex traffickers, spend our grandkids into oblivion, fund endless wars, lockdown our citizens, bailout corporations, bow to other countries, and hurt small farmers,” Massie wrote early Thursday on the social platform X, appearing to address the vice president’s remarks.

1. no one is protecting sex traffickers but democrats, who lost 320,000 kids

2. Republicans cut $1.5T off Biden's last budget

3. There are no wars under Trump, Biden kept throwing money at Ukraine

4. no bailouts, unless the democrats subsidize the ACA

5. Trump doesn't bow to other countries, his tariffs show that

6. China hurt small farmers, Trump is getting them to purchase more produce

Massie is just an obstructionist, and needs to go.

1. That's a flat out lie. Trump, Bondi and the rest have been changing their story, lying, dodging and stalling way too much since January. All democrats signed the discharge petition. Johnson even started the house summer recess early to keep the discharge petition from getting signed by the 218.

2. I've already covered this. And you know it. Stop stalling.

3. And he didn't end one war in his first term. And the Iran thing, wasn't any of our business. And neither is Ukraine. But Trump is still supplying Ukraine. He was supposed to have ended that war before taking office. Remember?

4. He's fixing to have to bail out the beef ranchers. Not to mention all the new subsidies he just granted Pfizer and that other big pharma company.

5. No, he bullies them. And we have to pay for it. All that extra tariff revenue, came from us US consumers.

6.. No he's not.

Massie is a fiscal and constitutional conservative. He only votes against Trump/Johnson, when the legislation either spends way too much or goes against the constitution. As if that was wrong.

You're loyalty to the RINO's is retarded. Especially when we're $38 trillion in debt.

 

[Stryder50]

Jews think Jesus was a prophet. Not the son of god.

Muslims think the same thing.
Also that Muhammad was a Greater Prophet.

 

[22lcidw]

I don't understand what people get out of self identifying with "MAGA", or any ideology. Really people need to think for themselves and stop thinking in terms of Democrat, Republican, etc. The die hard MAGA people who self identify themselves as such and refuse to question it are just the same as the radical SJWs. When you question them, they turn into a swarm of angry bees.

Progressives will dissect all the good Trump is trying to do if they come to power. That is what they did on the first day of Joe. We are still paying for the executive orders signed that day. Trying to recover from Covid and you idiots hamstrung the oil industry for your grand global climate scams. And your voters, led by Progressive Socialist Communist women are sending the nation into a death spiral. You will not like the dictatorial results. People become primal and the organization of a massive uniform wearing despotic nation will have little tolerance and karma will rule.

 

[BULLDOG]

MAGA is one thing. And the DHTS (die hard Trump supporters) are another.

MAGA voted for massive reductions in spending. End the wars. DOGE. Stopping the democrats agenda. Releasing the Epstein list/files/evidence. We voted for a restoration of our constitutional republic. Abolishing the Dept. of Ed. Draining the swamp. Securing the borders.
DHTS voted for revenge on the democrats. And that's pretty much it. Nobody But Trump.

What we've gotten is more socialism. A never ending war in Ukraine. College tuition funding. Increased spending. 100% funding of the Dept. of Ed. & funding universities. Foreign aid to just about any country with it's hand out. H1-B visa's, by the hundreds of thousands, because Trump says the USA doesn't have talent.


Imagine Trump campaign on what he's done so far:
Spend more than Biden
Attack fiscal conservatives
Keep funding Ukraine and Israel
Continue with foreign aid to every country with their hand out
Get rid of Elon when Elon opposed the MASSIVE BBB
Take ownership of private companies.
Not go after Fauci
Not release the Epstein evidence

Would you still have voted for him if that's what he campaign on?

MAGA and all other trump supporters are one and the same. A few of you are starting to be embarrassed, but that hasn't changed your support for that crook. Teabaggers did the same thing when they tried to call themselves Independents when it finally sunk in just how crazy you had become.

 

[Stryder50]

If I wanted that, I would not have voted for Trump these past 3 elections.

I'll take a right wing butthead over a left wing anything....any day of any week of any month of any year.

Your thread I responded to didn't read or sound that way to me.

 

[YoursTruly]

MAGA and all other trump supporters are one and the same. A few of you are starting to be embarrassed, but that hasn't changed your support for that crook. Teabaggers did the same thing when they tried to call themselves Independents when it finally sunk in just how crazy you had become.

I'm support MAGA. But I can't stand Trump.
I mean, who doesn't support making America great again?
I think by now we can all safely assume there's a difference between TL's (Trump loyalist) and MAGA.
Although there's a lot of TL's in MAGA. But more and more are realizing that Trump's version of MAGA is way different than what he campaigned on. To Trump, it was more of a campaign slogan.

Both sides claim they want to make America great. In one form or fashion.