Louisiana wants to make abortion a crime of murder.

Penelope

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The contitution says nothing about eating, travel, pussy, vagina, or even womb, etc.

There's the crux of the issue and the reason that Rowe v Wade is getting overturned.

50 years ago, politicians unwilling to take on the contentious issue of abortion, decided they could pass that hot potato to the USSC. By getting the court to make it a Constitutional issue. It relieved politicians from having to make a decision about a divisive subject.

However, as you say, The US Constitution does not mention either male or female reproductive organs so a legal pretzel was created that made abortion on demand a matter of medical privacy. Also something not guaranteed by the The Constitution.

However, like most political chicanery, it emboldened the winners to believe they were untouchable and created a ferocity in the losers who felt (rightfully so) they had been cheated of letting the voters decide the matter.

For the last two years, either unable to make the connection or unwilling to believe they could lose, the people who have been chasing people around with needles and demanding vaccine passports, have now found that they have weakened the medical privacy foundation for the USSC decision has fallen apart and we are back to where we were in 1973.

So, those people who were so sure they could never have the landmark decision reverse have found out they were wrong and they have to decide which path to go down to get back into the fight.

They could go down the angry route ...

... violent protests and the destruction of public and private property. This won't really accomplish they changes they desire. It will make each side more militant.
... destruction of the USSC by adding dozens more judges that would make court stacking easier for BOTH parties when they are in power. However, since The Constitution sets and upper limit of 10 judges and we currently have 9. This isn't a realistic option.

They could go down the fair play route ...

... get the issue on the ballot in each state with abortion restriction laws and let the voters in each state decide. Proponents of unrestricted abortion believe the vast majority of people stand with them so this should be an attractive option for them. They believe they will win state plebiscites so there should be no problem with pushing for them.

... take the long game of pushing a Constitutional Amendment to make abortion on demand a Constitutional Right. This also puts the issue in the hands of the voters but only 3/4th of the states have to pass such an amendment for it to become binding on all the states.

I'm happy to see this decision back in the hands of the voters and legislators as was intended by our founders. Rowe v Wade was bad law. It was a cowardly way for politicians on both sides to avoid being linked to the extremists on both sides. Politicians could remain neutral and still claim whatever position played best to their bases.

Just a warning to both sides ... taking extreme positions will only chose to make this issue more volatile, making a final, LEGAL, resolution of the matter nearly impossible.
 
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Just a reminder to everyone involved... in America, the only way abortion, or any other divisive issue should be solved is by legitimate political debate.

In that spirit ... just throwing a few things out there.

1. This issue will have to be decided by voters in each state. An end run around the voters by judicial fiat is not going to work.

2. Religion is an EXCELLENT way to decide the morality of abortion ... for EACH PERSON individually, according to the dictates of his or her faith. Because it's against your religion is a great reason for you not to have an abortion. It doesn't apply to anyone else.

3. There is no ultimate solution to this issue, Someone will always feel they aren't getting their way. There is no way the country will ever be unanimous on this issue.

4. As long as both sides use legal means to achieve the outcome, win or lose, we can feel grateful that we, as a country, acted with honor and respect.

5. Extremist demands from either side are counter-productive.
 
Everyone look at my signature for a reminder about how Penny REALLY feels. But we knew that.
Reading KillerPenny's writing makes me wonder if she has a single opinion that she actually formulated on her own, or is she just plugged into her TV 24/7 and regurgitating.

What's really pathetic is that people like Killer who consume data from the media all day every day see themselves as well-informed.
 
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Louisiana wants to make abortion a crime of murder.
Such is the reprehensible, authoritarian right.

And this is further proof that for conservatives overturning Roe has nothing to do with “states’ rights” and everything to do with compelling conformity and enhancing the size and authority of the state at the expense of individual liberty.

That conservatives would subject women and girls to unwarranted criminal prosecution for exercising a fundamental right is yet another manifestation of rightwing neo-fascist depravity.
 
Such is the reprehensible, authoritarian right.

And this is further proof that for conservatives overturning Roe has nothing to do with “states’ rights” and everything to do with compelling conformity and enhancing the size and authority of the state at the expense of individual liberty.

That conservatives would subject women and girls to unwarranted criminal prosecution for exercising a fundamental right is yet another manifestation of rightwing neo-fascist depravity.

What has it been--five days? And already the Left is alienating people with this ridiculous rhetoric. I knew this would happen....you all cannot help yourselves
 
The Texas law already has Americans ratting each other out like we're in North Korea. There's no way to know how far this will go, regardless of what the Holy Warriors say.

An 8 week or 12 week or 15 week limit would have been the OBVIOUS compromise. But we're no longer allowed to compromise. America can no longer fix big problems.
 

Should women face life in prison for the crime of having an abortion?? Yes or NO ??

why put this on doctors, what about women, they can have the doctor to do what they want.

Everyone also please note that this bill has only cleared the House Committee and has not even gone to the full floor for a vote. State House Committees cook up some crazy crap on BOTH sides.
 
Why do the baby killers never mention Roe or talk about her
She lied about her rape and later admitting she was just a tool who read scripts for money ..

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The girl in the picture is a self-centered snowflake

She has many choices

To have sex or not

And use a condom or birth control pill

What choice is she giving to her inborn child?

None
 
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