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thanks trotsky for interpreting my intent to we common folk,The OPs thread speaks to an even deeper problem.
With the rise of talk radio, the Republican Party started doing a massive outreach program to low-information voters who generally lacked a solid college education.
The GOP pulled these people in using religion, patriotism, national security, and the culture war. They appealed to values rather than policy (which works better for people that don't have the time and required literacy to understand complex trade policies or complex geopolitical issues).
The group targeted by the GOP also feels left behind by a changing world that doesn't include them. They've watched America go from its powerful postwar dominance (with a majority white population that enjoyed upward mobility) to a multiracial nation where they can't get ahead.
The GOP gives these angry white people a political home, along with a nice long list of scapegoats.
The only thing these people know is that they want their country back, but they lack the policy knowledge to get there. So they vote on attitude over substance.
Trump - a man who knows dangerous little policy - gives them attitude. He speaks to their carefully crafted anti-government anger. He gives them their Mexican and Muslim scapegoats. He talks tough. He has attitude. These voters don't know policy and they can't tell you the difference between a Sunni and Shiite. They can't tell you the first thing about the Syrian Civil War. They just want a tough, straight talking "Dear Leader" to fix it.
They are well meaning, but they are stupid. They are going to destroy this country with a Cruz/Trump ticket.
The Republican investment in low-information voters had come home to roost.
If you think Bush destroyed the economy and left the Middle East as an unstable nightmare, you ain't seen nothing yet.
The real demagogues are coming.
Which he did. The State Seal in on the document inspected by Factcheck.org. With pictures anyone can verify.
You'll ignore them all of course. As you ignore everything and everyone who contradicts you.
Um....so?
Really? Below is the photo you are referring to. Please point out the EMBOSSED state seal:
You say its fake. Yet the State of Hawaii affirmed that every bit of information on it is accurate.
So....a 100% accurate forgery? Again, that's the stupidest fucking thing I'ver heard.
Your entire argument is willful ignorance. But your willful ignorance isn't a legal standard. Nor has thing to do with Obama's eligibility. As demonstrated by Obama entering the final year of his presidency.
PC Free Zone
The Hawaiian certification of live birth Barack Obama posted on his campaign website and distributed to select news organizations as proof he was a "natural born citizen" would not be accepted as a "birth certificate" even for some Hawaiian state government eligibility issues.
It would affirm Obama's place of birth in any court of law, as its prima facie evidence.
Worse for you, you could use it to get a passport. Which, per US law, is proof of citizenship and place of birth.
Try again. All you have is willful ignorance.
hmmm, no it wouldn't. That's a bald faced lie, or it's pure ignorance.
The State of Hawaii affirmed that the image of the birth certificate on the white house website matches their original records. And as has affirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii at least 5 times.
Why would I ignore the State of Hawaii on its own documents and instead believe you?
You mean some sleazy politicians who don't want to piss off Obama "affirmed" it. Their word is less credible than the word of a used car salesman. Why can't they produce the original document for independent verification?
The only one sleazy here is you with the usual Birther slime.
You seem to think that the State of Hawaii is under some obligation to break Hawaii law just because a few irrelevant Birthers stomp your feet.
Everyone who matters knows where Barack Obama was born.
You don't matter.
What law would they break by producing Obama's so-called "birth certificate" for inspection?
Vital Records | Frequently Asked Questions about Vital Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II
State law prohibits the DOH from disclosing any vital statistics records or information contained in such records unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record, or as otherwise allowed by statute or administrative rule. See HRS §338-18. Direct and tangible interest is determined by HRS §338-18(b).
In light of the unprecedented number of requests for information relating to the vital records of President Barack Hussein Obama II, the DOH has reviewed the requirements of UIPA and the confidentiality provisions of HRS Chapter 338.
Based upon that review, the DOH has determined that the information listed below constitutes all of the publicly available information related to requests for vital statistics records pertaining to President Barack Hussein Obama II, and the only disclosures pertaining to those records that can be made in accordance with Hawaii law. The Department of Health is providing links to copies of the records in the form that they are available to the public.
We all know they can disclose the record with Obama's consent. Citing that law is a diversion.
Which he did. The State Seal in on the document inspected by Factcheck.org. With pictures anyone can verify.
You'll ignore them all of course. As you ignore everything and everyone who contradicts you.
Um....so?
Really? Below is the photo you are referring to. Please point out the EMBOSSED state seal:
You say its fake. Yet the State of Hawaii affirmed that every bit of information on it is accurate.
So....a 100% accurate forgery? Again, that's the stupidest fucking thing I'ver heard.
Your entire argument is willful ignorance. But your willful ignorance isn't a legal standard. Nor has thing to do with Obama's eligibility. As demonstrated by Obama entering the final year of his presidency.
You failed to point out the embossed state seal.
Its the third picture on the FactCheck.org website, taken from an angle so the official seal is visible.
Born in the U.S.A.
Which I've already provided you. And you've already ignored. As you don't care if the Seal is there, just like you didn't care about the law preventing just anyone from inspecting Hawaii's original vital records.
So far you've ignored *everything* you've asked for. Why? You're a birther. Willful ignorance is all there is to you.
Then post it, asshole. You know how to post a link to a photo, don't you?
You mean some sleazy politicians who don't want to piss off Obama "affirmed" it. Their word is less credible than the word of a used car salesman. Why can't they produce the original document for independent verification?
The only one sleazy here is you with the usual Birther slime.
You seem to think that the State of Hawaii is under some obligation to break Hawaii law just because a few irrelevant Birthers stomp your feet.
Everyone who matters knows where Barack Obama was born.
You don't matter.
What law would they break by producing Obama's so-called "birth certificate" for inspection?
Vital Records | Frequently Asked Questions about Vital Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II
State law prohibits the DOH from disclosing any vital statistics records or information contained in such records unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record, or as otherwise allowed by statute or administrative rule. See HRS §338-18. Direct and tangible interest is determined by HRS §338-18(b).
In light of the unprecedented number of requests for information relating to the vital records of President Barack Hussein Obama II, the DOH has reviewed the requirements of UIPA and the confidentiality provisions of HRS Chapter 338.
Based upon that review, the DOH has determined that the information listed below constitutes all of the publicly available information related to requests for vital statistics records pertaining to President Barack Hussein Obama II, and the only disclosures pertaining to those records that can be made in accordance with Hawaii law. The Department of Health is providing links to copies of the records in the form that they are available to the public.
We all know they can disclose the record with Obama's consent. Citing that law is a diversion.
You know nothing- and keep demonstrating that.
You are a typical fact averse Birther.
Sure they have. The COLB issued in 2007 was an official document and seen by plenty. The Secretary of State of Arizona requested verification of Obama's eligibility to be president from the State of Hawaii and had it affirmed by the Registar of Hawaii himself. Confirming both Obama's birth in Hawaii and that the image of Obama's birth certificate on the WH matched their original records.
With the Secretary of State of Arizona acknowledging this confirmation as establishing Obama's place of birth according to the law.
You ignore them all.
Laughing....so? Again, your entire argument is willful ignorance.
The only "official document" that matters is Obama's birth certificate. The rest is just political bullshit.
Says you, citing you. Which is pseudo-legal gibbber jabber. Back in reality, official documents from Hawaii are prima facie evidence in any court of law. You can get a passport with them.
See how that works? Your willful ignorance is gloriously irrelevant to any legal document.
Your "official documents" are nothing more than the unsubstantiated claims politicians, that is, of professional liars. They are evidenced of nothing.
Says you, citing yourself. Which is meaningless.
Back in reality, a COLB is prima facie evidence in any court of law. And you can use it to get a passport.
Is there anything to you but willful ignorance? Do you have anything else, birther?
No one has seen the COLB. The lying politicians claim they have seen it, but there's no credible proof of that. We only have their word for it.
The only "official document" that matters is Obama's birth certificate. The rest is just political bullshit.
Says you, citing you. Which is pseudo-legal gibbber jabber. Back in reality, official documents from Hawaii are prima facie evidence in any court of law. You can get a passport with them.
See how that works? Your willful ignorance is gloriously irrelevant to any legal document.
Your "official documents" are nothing more than the unsubstantiated claims politicians, that is, of professional liars. They are evidenced of nothing.
Says you, citing yourself. Which is meaningless.
Back in reality, a COLB is prima facie evidence in any court of law. And you can use it to get a passport.
Is there anything to you but willful ignorance? Do you have anything else, birther?
No one has seen the COLB. The lying politicians claim they have seen it, but there's no credible proof of that. We only have their word for it.
Which politicians are those Brippie?
Which politicians have claimed to see Barack Obama's original birth certificate?
I can't find any.
The only one sleazy here is you with the usual Birther slime.
You seem to think that the State of Hawaii is under some obligation to break Hawaii law just because a few irrelevant Birthers stomp your feet.
Everyone who matters knows where Barack Obama was born.
You don't matter.
What law would they break by producing Obama's so-called "birth certificate" for inspection?
Would it matter? You'll ignore it just the same. Just as you have every affirmation of Obama's place of birth.
And for the record, its HRS §338-18.
Look it up if you're interested. Or give us an excuse to ignore it you're not. You're irrelevant in either circumstance.
In other words, no law would have been broken. Thanks for admitting you are full of shit.
Birthers- demonstrating once again that they are impervious to the facts.
Which "facts" am I impervious to? All your so-called "facts" are non sequiturs. You are impervious to logic.
Says you, citing you. Which is pseudo-legal gibbber jabber. Back in reality, official documents from Hawaii are prima facie evidence in any court of law. You can get a passport with them.
See how that works? Your willful ignorance is gloriously irrelevant to any legal document.
Your "official documents" are nothing more than the unsubstantiated claims politicians, that is, of professional liars. They are evidenced of nothing.
Says you, citing yourself. Which is meaningless.
Back in reality, a COLB is prima facie evidence in any court of law. And you can use it to get a passport.
Is there anything to you but willful ignorance? Do you have anything else, birther?
No one has seen the COLB. The lying politicians claim they have seen it, but there's no credible proof of that. We only have their word for it.
Which politicians are those Brippie?
Which politicians have claimed to see Barack Obama's original birth certificate?
I can't find any.
Read back in the thread, moron.
The only one sleazy here is you with the usual Birther slime.
You seem to think that the State of Hawaii is under some obligation to break Hawaii law just because a few irrelevant Birthers stomp your feet.
Everyone who matters knows where Barack Obama was born.
You don't matter.
What law would they break by producing Obama's so-called "birth certificate" for inspection?
Vital Records | Frequently Asked Questions about Vital Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II
State law prohibits the DOH from disclosing any vital statistics records or information contained in such records unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record, or as otherwise allowed by statute or administrative rule. See HRS §338-18. Direct and tangible interest is determined by HRS §338-18(b).
In light of the unprecedented number of requests for information relating to the vital records of President Barack Hussein Obama II, the DOH has reviewed the requirements of UIPA and the confidentiality provisions of HRS Chapter 338.
Based upon that review, the DOH has determined that the information listed below constitutes all of the publicly available information related to requests for vital statistics records pertaining to President Barack Hussein Obama II, and the only disclosures pertaining to those records that can be made in accordance with Hawaii law. The Department of Health is providing links to copies of the records in the form that they are available to the public.
We all know they can disclose the record with Obama's consent. Citing that law is a diversion.
You know nothing- and keep demonstrating that.
You are a typical fact averse Birther.
There's nothing to birthers but willful ignorance and self delusion.
Nothing.
he should have taken the fifty million...What law would they break by producing Obama's so-called "birth certificate" for inspection?
Vital Records | Frequently Asked Questions about Vital Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II
State law prohibits the DOH from disclosing any vital statistics records or information contained in such records unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record, or as otherwise allowed by statute or administrative rule. See HRS §338-18. Direct and tangible interest is determined by HRS §338-18(b).
In light of the unprecedented number of requests for information relating to the vital records of President Barack Hussein Obama II, the DOH has reviewed the requirements of UIPA and the confidentiality provisions of HRS Chapter 338.
Based upon that review, the DOH has determined that the information listed below constitutes all of the publicly available information related to requests for vital statistics records pertaining to President Barack Hussein Obama II, and the only disclosures pertaining to those records that can be made in accordance with Hawaii law. The Department of Health is providing links to copies of the records in the form that they are available to the public.
We all know they can disclose the record with Obama's consent. Citing that law is a diversion.
You know nothing- and keep demonstrating that.
You are a typical fact averse Birther.
There's nothing to birthers but willful ignorance and self delusion.
Nothing.
Everytime I point out that Birthers rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo- I feel like that is all redundent.
Birther really covers it.
a lot of records/life story narratives got changed after his keynote speech, even fogbow admits that.. they really pushed the newspaper announcements.If he did it was undoubtedly to get some type of financial aid, or benefit to foreign born students.Well, in fairness, Obama did tell his colleges and Universities that he was born in Kenya
Could be. Many suspect that.
Uh-huh. Show us. Don't tell us.
As this thread is a graveyard of hapless accusations your ilk have offered us. And then run scrambling from when asked to back them up.
a lot of records/life story narratives got changed after his keynote speech, even fogbow admits that.. they really pushed the newspaper announcements.If he did it was undoubtedly to get some type of financial aid, or benefit to foreign born students.Well, in fairness, Obama did tell his colleges and Universities that he was born in Kenya
Could be. Many suspect that.
Uh-huh. Show us. Don't tell us.
As this thread is a graveyard of hapless accusations your ilk have offered us. And then run scrambling from when asked to back them up.
We know. Nothing to see here folks. Move along now.
he should have taken the fifty million...Vital Records | Frequently Asked Questions about Vital Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II
State law prohibits the DOH from disclosing any vital statistics records or information contained in such records unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record, or as otherwise allowed by statute or administrative rule. See HRS §338-18. Direct and tangible interest is determined by HRS §338-18(b).
In light of the unprecedented number of requests for information relating to the vital records of President Barack Hussein Obama II, the DOH has reviewed the requirements of UIPA and the confidentiality provisions of HRS Chapter 338.
Based upon that review, the DOH has determined that the information listed below constitutes all of the publicly available information related to requests for vital statistics records pertaining to President Barack Hussein Obama II, and the only disclosures pertaining to those records that can be made in accordance with Hawaii law. The Department of Health is providing links to copies of the records in the form that they are available to the public.
We all know they can disclose the record with Obama's consent. Citing that law is a diversion.
You know nothing- and keep demonstrating that.
You are a typical fact averse Birther.
There's nothing to birthers but willful ignorance and self delusion.
Nothing.
Everytime I point out that Birthers rely upon lies, speculation and innuendo- I feel like that is all redundent.
Birther really covers it.
a lot of records/life story narratives got changed after his keynote speech, even fogbow admits that.. they really pushed the newspaper announcements.If he did it was undoubtedly to get some type of financial aid, or benefit to foreign born students.
Could be. Many suspect that.
Uh-huh. Show us. Don't tell us.
As this thread is a graveyard of hapless accusations your ilk have offered us. And then run scrambling from when asked to back them up.
We know. Nothing to see here folks. Move along now.
An obscure pamphlet from the early 90s that Obama didn't even write......compared to a his autobiography, a State issued COLB, 2 birth announcements, the Director of Health of Hawaii, the Registrar of Hawaii, and the Department of Health of Hawaii....
.......and you choose the obscure pamphlet from the 90s that Obama didn't even write.
Sigh....ladies and gentlemen, I give you the batshit birther.
a lot of records/life story narratives got changed after his keynote speech, even fogbow admits that.. they really pushed the newspaper announcements.Could be. Many suspect that.
Uh-huh. Show us. Don't tell us.
As this thread is a graveyard of hapless accusations your ilk have offered us. And then run scrambling from when asked to back them up.
We know. Nothing to see here folks. Move along now.
An obscure pamphlet from the early 90s that Obama didn't even write......compared to a his autobiography, a State issued COLB, 2 birth announcements, the Director of Health of Hawaii, the Registrar of Hawaii, and the Department of Health of Hawaii....
.......and you choose the obscure pamphlet from the 90s that Obama didn't even write.
Sigh....ladies and gentlemen, I give you the batshit birther.
LOL @ Obama not writing his "obscure pamphlet"
LOL
They got everything else 100% correct, but they decided to make up a birthplace, picked one at random and just so happened to come up with the country Obama used to get into college
I used to joke that Barack Obama would put a copy of his original birth certificate in his Presidential library just as a big 'fuck you' to Birthers.
Well he provided a copy of the original birth certificate as a big 'fuck you' to Trump and Birthers still don't believe it.
Like yourself- Birthers will never believe anything- any document- unless it is a forged document by a convicted forgerer who claims it shows Obama was born in Kenya.
Trump fans don't like Hillary because she lied but they don't seem to mind Trump is a liar?
anyone who lies under oath should be indicted. Uhhh, except the Clintons, right?
Or Trump, right?
No, if its proven that he lied under oath, indict him. Do it. But also indict both Clintons.
Clearly you are unable to prove Hillary lied but I just showed you Trump did, so you better start supporting Cruz like you eventually will when the GOP tosses Trump out of the race. Then support Rubio when it is found Cruz is a canadian wetback.
"the Benghazi attack was caused by a video" Hillary Clinton
" I never sent any classified data on my private e-mail server" Hillary Clinton.
Two big lies.
