Liberals, what are your actual standards? What do you really believe?

[kaz]

So? Go ahead, you have no chance at this question, you're amoral lying intellectual whores. Your chance to prove me wrong. Go to it ...

Why would anyone answer your question? You are already locked in an echo chamber, as this post makes abundantly clear.

OK, so you answer the question then. What standards do Democrats hold themselves and Democrat politicians to?

Ask a Democract. Or wasn't this thread directed at liberals?

Hell, ask yourself. You are closer to being a Democrat and a liberal than I am, you dumb ****.

So far you're just blowing smoke out of your ass ... again ...

Actually libertarians are the true liberals. As for my being like Democrats, enjoy the bong, weekends are great ...

 

[kaz]

I notice liberals are running away and hiding. Despite their endless standards for Republicans, they can't name a standard they apply to themselves. That is the accurate answer, no answer

No, they probably just saw right through your obvious baiting.

Only an idiot would actually believe that you are looking for a serious intellectual discussion.

That the faux anarchist says that just makes me laugh at you

 

[Onyx]

That the faux anarchist says that just makes me laugh at you

Glad to humor you.

 

[kaz]

Liberals are a hoot. I've never seen you hold other Democrats to that standard. You just whine when what you do is pointed out. A standard you don't do yet you hold others to isn't a standard, it's just a political attack

https://www.askideas.com/media/37/I-Award-You-No-*****-And-May-God-Have-Mercy-On-Your-Soul-Funny-Insult-Meme-Picture.jpg

I don't know what that means, but let's say it was funny ...

 

[Onyx]

Actually libertarians are the true liberals.

Why the **** are you baiting liberals if you consider yourself one?

 

[kaz]

You can't provide one answer, where are you going to find a second one?

Now run along and apply another standard to Republicans you don't hold yourself or other Democrats to

Why would any liberal take your condescending post seriously?

Tissue? You can't answer the question. If you could, you'd be glad to obliterate me with examples. That's why you're going the deflection path.

You did however give a great example of my point. You write smug, condescending crap all the time. Suddenly you're a sensitive soul who can't answer a question that doesn't rub your belly and scratch your neck. Note your posts will not follow this standard you discovered for me ...

You want me to answer your question after calling liberals amoral? Why would I take you seriously?

Hey, do me a favor and find a thread I started where I insulted conservatives and pretended I wanted to have a serious discussion about your beliefs. Good luck.

I'm going to run out of tissues for you at this rate. And I've never seen you say to a liberal their snotty post is snotty ever. And you write completely vacuous crap all over the board like you are now. This is again a standard you hold yourself and other liberals to not one iota. All you have done so far is prove my point. You created a standard for your political enemies. You don't do it, you don't ask it of other Democrats.

And I didn't ask for a serious discussion, I asked you to provide me examples proving me wrong. And so far, the entire left is 0 fer on that. I set it up so you could shove it in my fat face if I'm wrong. All you've done so far is show I'm right

Your thread is a steaming pile of shit. It's like you started it for the sole purpose of feeling better about yourself at the expense of others. Why would I pretend this thread is for any other purpose?

Once again proving my thread. A standard that suddenly appeared out of the blue for you that you apply to yourself or your whore friends ... never ... ever ...

 

[kaz]

Tissue? You can't answer the question. If you could, you'd be glad to obliterate me with examples. That's why you're going the deflection path.

You did however give a great example of my point. You write smug, condescending crap all the time. Suddenly you're a sensitive soul who can't answer a question that doesn't rub your belly and scratch your neck. Note your posts will not follow this standard you discovered for me ...

You want me to answer your question after calling liberals amoral? Why would I take you seriously?

Hey, do me a favor and find a thread I started where I insulted conservatives and pretended I wanted to have a serious discussion about your beliefs. Good luck.

I'm going to run out of tissues for you at this rate. And I've never seen you say to a liberal their snotty post is snotty ever. And you write completely vacuous crap all over the board like you are now. This is again a standard you hold yourself and other liberals to not one iota. All you have done so far is prove my point. You created a standard for your political enemies. You don't do it, you don't ask it of other Democrats.

And I didn't ask for a serious discussion, I asked you to provide me examples proving me wrong. And so far, the entire left is 0 fer on that. I set it up so you could shove it in my fat face if I'm wrong. All you've done so far is show I'm right

Your thread is a steaming pile of shit. It's like you started it for the sole purpose of feeling better about yourself at the expense of others. Why would I pretend this thread is for any other purpose?

So why don't you list a bunch of standards you do hold yourself and other Democrats to and shove my question in my fat lying face? Because .... YOU CAN'T!

Well, for starters I think I already shoved your post up your fat lying face or however you wish to address yourself.

What liberals or conservatives for that matter think are strewn throughout this board, you should try reading them. This thread of yours isn't intended to discuss anything, it's just Kaz lashing out at liberals attempting to make them feel stupid because Kaz has no self esteem to handle a normal conversation asking what others believe, He has to frame the conversation to his benefit and put liberals on the defensive.

Yet another standard you just created for me, that when it comes to you and other Democrats, oops, poof ...

 

[kaz]

I notice liberals are running away and hiding. Despite their endless standards for Republicans, they can't name a standard they apply to themselves. That is the accurate answer, no answer

No, they probably just saw right through your obvious baiting.

Only an idiot would actually believe that you are looking for a serious intellectual discussion.

Read any of your discussions where you pretend to be an anarchist and can't answer simple questions.

But on this, you're amazing. You are demonstrating exactly my point. You post on the board all the time, and suddenly a standard has emerged for me you don't apply ever to yourself or other Democrats.

EXACTLY my point, thank you.

Onyx isn't a Democrat, you'd know that if you'd actually read other peoples' posts.

How do you disagree with him?

 

[HappyJoy]

Why would any liberal take your condescending post seriously?

Tissue? You can't answer the question. If you could, you'd be glad to obliterate me with examples. That's why you're going the deflection path.

You did however give a great example of my point. You write smug, condescending crap all the time. Suddenly you're a sensitive soul who can't answer a question that doesn't rub your belly and scratch your neck. Note your posts will not follow this standard you discovered for me ...

You want me to answer your question after calling liberals amoral? Why would I take you seriously?

Hey, do me a favor and find a thread I started where I insulted conservatives and pretended I wanted to have a serious discussion about your beliefs. Good luck.

I'm going to run out of tissues for you at this rate. And I've never seen you say to a liberal their snotty post is snotty ever. And you write completely vacuous crap all over the board like you are now. This is again a standard you hold yourself and other liberals to not one iota. All you have done so far is prove my point. You created a standard for your political enemies. You don't do it, you don't ask it of other Democrats.

And I didn't ask for a serious discussion, I asked you to provide me examples proving me wrong. And so far, the entire left is 0 fer on that. I set it up so you could shove it in my fat face if I'm wrong. All you've done so far is show I'm right

Your thread is a steaming pile of shit. It's like you started it for the sole purpose of feeling better about yourself at the expense of others. Why would I pretend this thread is for any other purpose?

Once again proving my thread. A standard that suddenly appeared out of the blue for you that you apply to yourself or your whore friends ... never ... ever ...

What? You sound angry, bro.

 

[kaz]

Why would any liberal take your condescending post seriously?

Tissue? You can't answer the question. If you could, you'd be glad to obliterate me with examples. That's why you're going the deflection path.

You did however give a great example of my point. You write smug, condescending crap all the time. Suddenly you're a sensitive soul who can't answer a question that doesn't rub your belly and scratch your neck. Note your posts will not follow this standard you discovered for me ...

You want me to answer your question after calling liberals amoral? Why would I take you seriously?

Hey, do me a favor and find a thread I started where I insulted conservatives and pretended I wanted to have a serious discussion about your beliefs. Good luck.

I'm going to run out of tissues for you at this rate. And I've never seen you say to a liberal their snotty post is snotty ever. And you write completely vacuous crap all over the board like you are now. This is again a standard you hold yourself and other liberals to not one iota. All you have done so far is prove my point. You created a standard for your political enemies. You don't do it, you don't ask it of other Democrats.

And I didn't ask for a serious discussion, I asked you to provide me examples proving me wrong. And so far, the entire left is 0 fer on that. I set it up so you could shove it in my fat face if I'm wrong. All you've done so far is show I'm right

Your thread is a steaming pile of shit. It's like you started it for the sole purpose of feeling better about yourself at the expense of others. Why would I pretend this thread is for any other purpose?

And is there a right answer? Lol

So far none of you moral sluts have provided a single answer

 

[kaz]

Tissue? You can't answer the question. If you could, you'd be glad to obliterate me with examples. That's why you're going the deflection path.

You did however give a great example of my point. You write smug, condescending crap all the time. Suddenly you're a sensitive soul who can't answer a question that doesn't rub your belly and scratch your neck. Note your posts will not follow this standard you discovered for me ...

You want me to answer your question after calling liberals amoral? Why would I take you seriously?

Hey, do me a favor and find a thread I started where I insulted conservatives and pretended I wanted to have a serious discussion about your beliefs. Good luck.

I'm going to run out of tissues for you at this rate. And I've never seen you say to a liberal their snotty post is snotty ever. And you write completely vacuous crap all over the board like you are now. This is again a standard you hold yourself and other liberals to not one iota. All you have done so far is prove my point. You created a standard for your political enemies. You don't do it, you don't ask it of other Democrats.

And I didn't ask for a serious discussion, I asked you to provide me examples proving me wrong. And so far, the entire left is 0 fer on that. I set it up so you could shove it in my fat face if I'm wrong. All you've done so far is show I'm right

Your thread is a steaming pile of shit. It's like you started it for the sole purpose of feeling better about yourself at the expense of others. Why would I pretend this thread is for any other purpose?

And is there a right answer? Lol

So why can't you rattle off a dozen answers that put me in my place? Because you have zero standards you apply to yourself, that's why

 

[kaz]

Here's the challenge, liberals. I'm calling you amoral liars on everything you say. I'm saying you have no standards that you apply ... to yourself. So this thread is easy. That is if you have any morality at all.

What principles do you believe in. Here's what you mean. That means you would apply them to yourself, and you would apply them to other Democrats. My contention is there are no standards that you apply to yourselves. So, here's your chance. Prove me wrong. Name the standards. Name standards that if another Democrat said you'd lose it. You'd call them out and blast them.

So? Go ahead, you have no chance at this question, you're amoral lying intellectual whores. Your chance to prove me wrong. Go to it ...

I thought you said you were an independent? Obviously, you're just another dishonest Repug.

Liberals don't want to elect a dangerous, unqualified racist fanatic like Trump as President because democracy will end in this country and there will be no more Presidential elections. There's the answer to your question, Repug goober.

You're voting for a lying, corrupt, deceptive, scandalous war mongering neocon who actually voted for the iraq war and has completely turned the ME into a powder keg through her and the incompetent idiot in office's policies.

Even if everything you say about Hillary is true (and it's not even close), she believes in democracy and she would not end democracy. Trump is a dangerous fanatic who would most certainly try to end democracy in this country. He's been talking about inciting violence for weeks if he loses and about changing the First Amendment to limit freedom of the press if he becomes President. Anyone who votes for this man is extremely misguided.

How do you know Hillary "believes in democracy and would not end democracy?" Be specific

 

[Onyx]

What? You sound angry, bro.

He is acting fucked in the head.

Originally he seemed like just another whiny loser trying to bait people into pissing contests. Now he is just acting completely unhinged.

 

[kaz]

Here's the challenge, liberals. I'm calling you amoral liars on everything you say. I'm saying you have no standards that you apply ... to yourself. So this thread is easy. That is if you have any morality at all.

What principles do you believe in. Here's what you mean. That means you would apply them to yourself, and you would apply them to other Democrats. My contention is there are no standards that you apply to yourselves. So, here's your chance. Prove me wrong. Name the standards. Name standards that if another Democrat said you'd lose it. You'd call them out and blast them.

So? Go ahead, you have no chance at this question, you're amoral lying intellectual whores. Your chance to prove me wrong. Go to it ...

I believe it's more of a comparison. It's easy to say, what do you believe? But it becomes much more understandable if you compare what Democrats believe to what Republicans believe. The difference is very stark.

Republicans are anti abortion. Even if it puts the life of the mother in danger or if the child will be born in pain or severely deformed.

Democrats feel pain for the sake of pain is inhumane. They respect the right of the mother to make her own decisions concerning her family. And they want to help the child. Make sure the child has food, shelter, care and a future. Republicans don't care about those things if it's not their child.

Democrats feel there should be help for the elderly. Sometimes, people raise their children and aren't able to make enough to also take care of their own future. It's sad that a couple could raise children to be soldiers who defend the country can't get help back. Remember, Republicans blocked healthcare support for first responders for 10 years after 9/11. It was Hillary Clinton that secured help for those people when she became Senator.

Democrats felt BP should pay for the damage they did to our Gulf. Republicans blocked the Obama administration from having subpoena power for months so they couldn't investigate BP and to give BP time to get their house in order.

Then there's the racism. The GOP is 90% white. The Democrats are everyone else. What does that say? Especially when you see a reduced number of voting locations, fewer days voting, voter suppression, and unlawful intimidation.

So you can see, there are vast differences.

I didn't ask an essay question. Let's try this again:

What ... standard ... do ... you ... apply ... to ... yourself ... and ... other ... Democrats ...

that you mean. Answer the question

 

[kaz]

Here's the challenge, liberals. I'm calling you amoral liars on everything you say. I'm saying you have no standards that you apply ... to yourself. So this thread is easy. That is if you have any morality at all.

What principles do you believe in. Here's what you mean. That means you would apply them to yourself, and you would apply them to other Democrats. My contention is there are no standards that you apply to yourselves. So, here's your chance. Prove me wrong. Name the standards. Name standards that if another Democrat said you'd lose it. You'd call them out and blast them.

So? Go ahead, you have no chance at this question, you're amoral lying intellectual whores. Your chance to prove me wrong. Go to it ...

I thought you said you were an independent? Obviously, you're just another dishonest Repug.

Liberals don't want to elect a dangerous, unqualified racist fanatic like Trump as President because democracy will end in this country and there will be no more Presidential elections. There's the answer to your question, Repug goober.

You're voting for a lying, corrupt, deceptive, scandalous war mongering neocon who actually voted for the iraq war and has completely turned the ME into a powder keg through her and the incompetent idiot in office's policies.

Even if everything you say about Hillary is true (and it's not even close), she believes in democracy and she would not end democracy. Trump is a dangerous fanatic who would most certainly try to end democracy in this country. He's been talking about inciting violence for weeks if he loses and about changing the First Amendment to limit freedom of the press if he becomes President. Anyone who votes for this man is extremely misguided.

No she doesn't. She hates democracy as much as she hates america and americans.

Keep telling yourself that, goober. You don't even know why you hate Hillary, which is the saddest part. You've been fed lies and innuendo about her for years from the right-wing hate machine and it's now just part of your DNA. You can't give a coherent argument based on facts as to why you hate her and you'll never be able to.

I hate Hillary because she says she has no respect for my liberty or property and I have no reason to believe she has respect for my life

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

Liberals believe in mooching off others and free handouts, its disgusting. Liberals believe all wealth should be thrown into one pile and divided up even among those who sit on their fat lard ass and don't work. Liberals believe hard work and success should be punished with higher taxes. That's just for starters.

Whereas Repugs only believe in handouts to the richest 1% like Trump, who didn't pay taxes for 20 years, and for giant corporations like the oil companies who receive billions of dollars from the federal government each year for no damn reason.

Ahahaha poor spoon fed liberal, go ahead name the handouts I'm calling you out. Name the handouts or admit you are a liar.

Do you have any idea how easy this is, you ******* imbecile?? I guess not, what an unsophisticated rube you are. Here's an article explaining how oil companies receive at least $4 billion per year from the Federal government, despite the fact that oil companies are basically the wealthiest corporations on the planet.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/06/u...billion-per-year-of-taxpayers-money.html?_r=0

LOL as I said spoon fed liberal. Its not the taxpayers money its the oil companies money they earned the money so that for starters. A tax deduction for business expenditures is not a subsidy, do you consider your mortgage deduction a subsidy? How about a deduction for charitable giving do you consider that a subsidy? No of course not, it was your money to start with, the government didn't go take some money from someone else and give it to you, that's a subsidy. When government takes MY money and gives it to some mooching loser for a child tax credit refund when they didn't even pay any income tax, THAT'S a subsidy. Liberals are liars start there and begin correcting the BS you have been spoon fed dummy.

You enjoy just making shit up, don't you? These oil company subsidies absolutely do come from taxpayer money.

Your definition of subsidy is not accurate. Google it.

And what difference does it make if it's a tax break or a subsidy? It makes NO DIFFERENCE. The fact is that mega-wealthy corporations are getting preferential treatment, just like the people on welfare that you hate-filled Repugs constantly whine about. Like I said, you only have problem with poor people receiving assistance from the government. It's OK if rich Repugs and corporations get it.

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

I thought you said you were an independent? Obviously, you're just another dishonest Repug.

Liberals don't want to elect a dangerous, unqualified racist fanatic like Trump as President because democracy will end in this country and there will be no more Presidential elections. There's the answer to your question, Repug goober.

You're voting for a lying, corrupt, deceptive, scandalous war mongering neocon who actually voted for the iraq war and has completely turned the ME into a powder keg through her and the incompetent idiot in office's policies.

Even if everything you say about Hillary is true (and it's not even close), she believes in democracy and she would not end democracy. Trump is a dangerous fanatic who would most certainly try to end democracy in this country. He's been talking about inciting violence for weeks if he loses and about changing the First Amendment to limit freedom of the press if he becomes President. Anyone who votes for this man is extremely misguided.

No she doesn't. She hates democracy as much as she hates america and americans.

Keep telling yourself that, goober. You don't even know why you hate Hillary, which is the saddest part. You've been fed lies and innuendo about her for years from the right-wing hate machine and it's now just part of your DNA. You can't give a coherent argument based on facts as to why you hate her and you'll never be able to.

I hate Hillary because she says she has no respect for my liberty or property and I have no reason to believe she has respect for my life

What an impartial libertarian you are. You're totally full of shit, dude.

What's more, you didn't provide a coherent argument based on any facts. Just more of your weak-ass, horseshit Repug opinions.

 

[HappyJoy]

I notice liberals are running away and hiding. Despite their endless standards for Republicans, they can't name a standard they apply to themselves. That is the accurate answer, no answer

No, they probably just saw right through your obvious baiting.

Only an idiot would actually believe that you are looking for a serious intellectual discussion.

Read any of your discussions where you pretend to be an anarchist and can't answer simple questions.

But on this, you're amazing. You are demonstrating exactly my point. You post on the board all the time, and suddenly a standard has emerged for me you don't apply ever to yourself or other Democrats.

EXACTLY my point, thank you.

Onyx isn't a Democrat, you'd know that if you'd actually read other peoples' posts.

How do you disagree with him?

First off, I respect Onyx, from his posts, I can certainly understand where he comes from.

I suppose Onyx believes in attacking the system from the outside in. Since I am currently a Democrat I'm more in line with taking control of the party from the inside out. I have respect for both paths and for many years I was an independent myself and the primary reason I rejoined the Democratic party was to vote in the primaries.

I'd describe myself as the liberal wing of the Democratic party....if that matters.

This year my number one goal is that Trump is not the President, I'd prefer liberal groups have a seat at the table as much as possible and with Trump that's not going to happen and the better chances are with Clinton. Onyx probably disagrees with me there but he's not an asshole like you so that's OK.

 

[kaz]

Here's the challenge, liberals. I'm calling you amoral liars on everything you say. I'm saying you have no standards that you apply ... to yourself. So this thread is easy. That is if you have any morality at all.

What principles do you believe in. Here's what you mean. That means you would apply them to yourself, and you would apply them to other Democrats. My contention is there are no standards that you apply to yourselves. So, here's your chance. Prove me wrong. Name the standards. Name standards that if another Democrat said you'd lose it. You'd call them out and blast them.

So? Go ahead, you have no chance at this question, you're amoral lying intellectual an whores. Your chance to prove me wrong. Go to it ...

My first instinct is to reject the premise of your question. If you said "For a fat chick you don't sweat too much!" it could not be more off putting.

But, should you want a sincere answer, I would say my standards include liberty and equality. Egalitarianism and the brotherhood of mankind.

Bull shit. You're voting for someone who voted for the Iraq war, who attacked the victims of her sexual predator husband, who let four people die becuase it was politically unsavory to save them, who hid her Whitewater legal files she was legally required to keep, who lied about exposing secret and top secret information to our enemies, who thinks people should be able to decide for themselves that illegally invading us is enough to become a citizen and so much more. That she believes in liberty, equality, egalitarian and brotherhood is your eating hash brownies

 

[HappyJoy]

You want me to answer your question after calling liberals amoral? Why would I take you seriously?

Hey, do me a favor and find a thread I started where I insulted conservatives and pretended I wanted to have a serious discussion about your beliefs. Good luck.

I'm going to run out of tissues for you at this rate. And I've never seen you say to a liberal their snotty post is snotty ever. And you write completely vacuous crap all over the board like you are now. This is again a standard you hold yourself and other liberals to not one iota. All you have done so far is prove my point. You created a standard for your political enemies. You don't do it, you don't ask it of other Democrats.

And I didn't ask for a serious discussion, I asked you to provide me examples proving me wrong. And so far, the entire left is 0 fer on that. I set it up so you could shove it in my fat face if I'm wrong. All you've done so far is show I'm right

Your thread is a steaming pile of shit. It's like you started it for the sole purpose of feeling better about yourself at the expense of others. Why would I pretend this thread is for any other purpose?

And is there a right answer? Lol

So why can't you rattle off a dozen answers that put me in my place? Because you have zero standards you apply to yourself, that's why

Do I need to?