Liberals Are Ruining Sports

[candycorn]

The sickening thing is liberals only make up about a fourth of the American population, yet right now they are pretty much dictating how most everything is ran.

In not too many more years we will be lucky if we are still able to use resources such as oil, coal and natural gas.

As far as sports go, don't be surprised if football is gone in within the next decade, at the very least it will be turned into a powder puff version compared to what it is now.

True Liberals make up closer to 10 percent of the population. True Conservatives make up probably closer to 15% of the population. The rest are different strains of moderation and the trend is toward the liberal end of the specturm. It will continue.

The evolving science supports rule changes especially when the stakes are so high and the reward is so low in schools. Again, I think schools should get out of the sports business. If kids want to play ball, the private sector can field the teams, assume the risks.

 

[Pogo]

Yes, liberals are ruining sports in America.

Used to be you could count on an escape from all of the nonsense and politics when you tune into ESPN or listen to sports on the radio. Now all we hear is when will Arod get suspended for taking PEDs. I stopped watching Major League Baseball when I came to the realization that only certain teams have a chance of winning. Why watch it when you know your team has no chance?

Sports is supposed to be an escape from reality. Unfortunately there are liberals in journalism, and they seem to think that we care more about what's wrong with sports than what's right about it.

You would hope that they would check their cynical natures at the door and just report the news, but instead they feel we want to hear their opinions about their ideology.

Last year we had to listen to a spiel on gun violence during half-time. This year the White House tried to talk the NFL into advertizing for Obamacare, and thankfully they rejected it. College football is being flooded with politically correct commentators that are going to ruin the game. Nobody wants to hear their BS. We just want to hear about who our team got in free-agency. Who's loaded for a good run this season? We aren't interested in hearing how all of the progressives that are taking over broadcasting are worried about head injuries. Spare us. Just friggen spare us. Let us enjoy something in our lives without having to deal with your bogus Bull Shit, alright??

So you've got Bob Costas and three paragraphs of filler? That's it?

I was not aware "gun violence" was a political issue. Which side is for it?

 

[Harry Dresden]

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[candycorn]

We should get the government (i.e. schools) out of sports all together. It's mission creep in the worst way.

If you're going to have the government involved at all you might as well keep sports a part of it. Athletics is a very important part of education, and often the only way any public school makes any $. It is also a positive force in community cohesion.

It has zilch to do with education, costs thousands of dollars, drains resources, and . promotes questionable priorities.

Private enterprise can do a superior job compared to schools . in this area.

 

[Unkotare]

We should get the government (i.e. schools) out of sports all together. It's mission creep in the worst way.

If you're going to have the government involved at all you might as well keep sports a part of it. Athletics is a very important part of education, and often the only way any public school makes any $. It is also a positive force in community cohesion.

It has zilch to do with education, costs thousands of dollars, drains resources, and . promotes questionable priorities.

It is a vital part of education and always has been - always. Don't be bitter just because you were some clumsy doofus in school and never made a team. Be bitter that you (as your comments make obvious) missed out on learning some important things. And, as I said, some sports actually MAKE money for schools. They are a positive force for schools and the communities that support them. Stop projecting.

 

[candycorn]

If you're going to have the government involved at all you might as well keep sports a part of it. Athletics is a very important part of education, and often the only way any public school makes any $. It is also a positive force in community cohesion.

It has zilch to do with education, costs thousands of dollars, drains resources, and . promotes questionable priorities.

It is a vital part of education and always has been - always. Don't be bitter just because you were some clumsy doofus in school and never made a team. Be bitter that you (as your comments make obvious) missed out on learning some important things. And, as I said, some sports actually MAKE money for schools. They are a positive force for schools and the communities that support them. Stop projecting.

I made plenty of teams actually.

You can cite some facts about teams turning profits to pay coaches salaries, stadium costs, utilities, uniforms, travel, and insurance right?

As for they're being positive, privately funded teams would be just as popular.

 

[Unkotare]

It has zilch to do with education, costs thousands of dollars, drains resources, and . promotes questionable priorities.

It is a vital part of education and always has been - always. Don't be bitter just because you were some clumsy doofus in school and never made a team. Be bitter that you (as your comments make obvious) missed out on learning some important things. And, as I said, some sports actually MAKE money for schools. They are a positive force for schools and the communities that support them. Stop projecting.

I made plenty of teams actually.

You can cite some facts about teams turning profits to pay coaches salaries, stadium costs, utilities, uniforms, travel, and insurance right?

As for they're being positive, privately funded teams would be just as popular.

Some high schools down south - you'd be shocked at how big a deal the football team is and what size stadiums they pack. But most sports at most schools certainly don't turn a 'profit' any more than the band or the Chess Club. The value of school sports still stands. You say you made "plenty of teams," but I must say it doesn't sound like it. That's ok. Private sports teams are a fine idea, but they do not represent the school and therefore encourage the spirit of community among students, alumni, and residents of the supporting community.

Since the time of the ancient Greeks it has been recognized that a sound mind and a sound body are mutually supportive and equally beneficial in developing educated citizens. Learning to work in teams, understanding tradition, building determination - with all that implies - and *gasp* humility are only a few of the attributes gained through competitive sport. These are skills, experiences, and life lessons that will exceed and outlast much of what else is learned during school years.

 

[Katzndogz]

Sports and entertainment should bring back morals clauses in contracts.

 

[auditor0007]

Threads like this are the proof that cons are absolutely losing their minds.

 

[Unkotare]

Threads like this are the proof that cons are absolutely losing their minds.

How so?

 

[candycorn]

It is a vital part of education and always has been - always. Don't be bitter just because you were some clumsy doofus in school and never made a team. Be bitter that you (as your comments make obvious) missed out on learning some important things. And, as I said, some sports actually MAKE money for schools. They are a positive force for schools and the communities that support them. Stop projecting.

I made plenty of teams actually.

You can cite some facts about teams turning profits to pay coaches salaries, stadium costs, utilities, uniforms, travel, and insurance right?

As for they're being positive, privately funded teams would be just as popular.

Some high schools down south - you'd be shocked at how big a deal the football team is and what size stadiums they pack. But most sports at most schools certainly don't turn a 'profit' any more than the band or the Chess Club.

So the schools still lose money on the enterprise. Amazing how it's perfectly okay in this aspect yet if we spend a dime that we don't expect repayment of in another one, some here scream "socialism".

The value of school sports still stands.

In your opinion.

You say you made "plenty of teams," but I must say it doesn't sound like it.

You sound like a couch potato yourself.

That's ok. Private sports teams are a fine idea, but they do not represent the school and therefore encourage the spirit of community among students, alumni, and residents of the supporting community.

If a "community" has more than 1 high school, how do you determine which asone "represents" the "spirit of the commnity"? You can't.

You can have some alumni who think they are somehow connected to the school they graduated by watching a football team. They could, of course, volunteer to tutor kids at that school as well but, hey, that means actual commitment.

Priorities...

Since the time of the ancient Greeks it has been recognized that a sound mind and a sound body are mutually supportive and equally beneficial in developing educated citizens. Learning to work in teams, understanding tradition, building determination - with all that implies - and *gasp* humility are only a few of the attributes gained through competitive sport. These are skills, experiences, and life lessons that will exceed and outlast much of what else is learned during school years.

That's sweet...

Back to reality...

Meanwhile, one of our prized athletes is about to be banned until 2016 for doping, a former MVP has been banned for 100+ games, dozens of former points of pride in the "local communiteis" can't show their face at the ballpark and get snubbed at the hall of fame every year. Capitalists players are interested in shopping their talent only to the highest bidder regardless of "community spirit".

All of that is true and important but that isn't the point of school...

School is meant to educated students. You can get just as much exposure to strategy, teamwork, tactics, etc... in intramurals although I failed to see where my hundreds of trips up to the top of the stadium running bleachers ever was desgined to teach tactics, teamwork or strategy.

Private enterprise could eliminate this needless tax burden. If parents want their kids to be jocks, they can pay for it outside of school, get expert coaching (or take their business elsewhere), play other top teams instead of the district doormats, place their kids on teams that are a pipeline to the next level perhaps, etc...

 

[Gadawg73]

We should get the government (i.e. schools) out of sports all together. It's mission creep in the worst way.

Public school athletics does excellent things.

 

[Gadawg73]

I made plenty of teams actually.

You can cite some facts about teams turning profits to pay coaches salaries, stadium costs, utilities, uniforms, travel, and insurance right?

As for they're being positive, privately funded teams would be just as popular.

Some high schools down south - you'd be shocked at how big a deal the football team is and what size stadiums they pack. But most sports at most schools certainly don't turn a 'profit' any more than the band or the Chess Club.

So the schools still lose money on the enterprise. Amazing how it's perfectly okay in this aspect yet if we spend a dime that we don't expect repayment of in another one, some here scream "socialism".


In your opinion.


You sound like a couch potato yourself.

That's ok. Private sports teams are a fine idea, but they do not represent the school and therefore encourage the spirit of community among students, alumni, and residents of the supporting community.

If a "community" has more than 1 high school, how do you determine which asone "represents" the "spirit of the commnity"? You can't.

You can have some alumni who think they are somehow connected to the school they graduated by watching a football team. They could, of course, volunteer to tutor kids at that school as well but, hey, that means actual commitment.

Priorities...

Since the time of the ancient Greeks it has been recognized that a sound mind and a sound body are mutually supportive and equally beneficial in developing educated citizens. Learning to work in teams, understanding tradition, building determination - with all that implies - and *gasp* humility are only a few of the attributes gained through competitive sport. These are skills, experiences, and life lessons that will exceed and outlast much of what else is learned during school years.

That's sweet...

Back to reality...

Meanwhile, one of our prized athletes is about to be banned until 2016 for doping, a former MVP has been banned for 100+ games, dozens of former points of pride in the "local communiteis" can't show their face at the ballpark and get snubbed at the hall of fame every year. Capitalists players are interested in shopping their talent only to the highest bidder regardless of "community spirit".

All of that is true and important but that isn't the point of school...

School is meant to educated students. You can get just as much exposure to strategy, teamwork, tactics, etc... in intramurals although I failed to see where my hundreds of trips up to the top of the stadium running bleachers ever was desgined to teach tactics, teamwork or strategy.

Private enterprise could eliminate this needless tax burden. If parents want their kids to be jocks, they can pay for it outside of school, get expert coaching (or take their business elsewhere), play other top teams instead of the district doormats, place their kids on teams that are a pipeline to the next level perhaps, etc...

Parents want athletics in the schools.
Take your kids to a school that does not have it.
Even the private schools see the advantages in education having athletics at their schools.
Good luck.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Quit watching pro sports a few years ago due to the thug gang rap culture.

 

[Gadawg73]

Amazing the foolish statements here.
Private outside the school teams.
LOL, all that would give is the fathers with the most money would buy the team for their kids.
Respectfully, candycorn, you have no clue about competitive athletics and the positive results it has on kids.
School athletics ASSURES that the kids that work the hardest are the ones that play.
I know, I played 13 years of football in schools and one of my sons played 11.
I went to my high school reunion and have been to college reunion and the majority of the guys that played some kind of athletics or in the band or in some other activity have led a productive life influenced by team.
Same with my son as we went to a wedding last Saturday, SAME DAY as my high school reunionand saw young men, some that played from 2nd grade all the way through high school together, at the wedding.
All being productive hard working citizens.
Speaking in dollars and sense in high school as to if they make a profit is absurd.
We get back in society ten times or more what we pay out in the schools with these kids.
Athletics is valued in the schools and does a lot of good for a lifetime for the kids.
HOW DOES A POOR KID GET TO PLAY ANY OTHER WAY?

 

[Gadawg73]

Quit watching pro sports a few years ago due to the thug gang rap culture.

I watch it but only pro baseball I go to.
I am going up to Athens this week to watch my DAWGS practice.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Quit watching pro sports a few years ago due to the thug gang rap culture.

I watch it but only pro baseball I go to.
I am going up to Athens this week to watch my DAWGS practice.

College basketball and football are it for me. Your dawgs are preseason 5 or 6, in fb, aren't they?

 

[Gadawg73]

Quit watching pro sports a few years ago due to the thug gang rap culture.

I watch it but only pro baseball I go to.
I am going up to Athens this week to watch my DAWGS practice.

College basketball and football are it for me. Your dawgs are preseason 5 or 6, in fb, aren't they?

Yes, everyone is back on offense and everyone is gone on defense. Opening up at Clemson and then home with South Carolina is always hard. Richt has us always playing tough teams the first two games. I like that as we went 0-2 a few years ago and won 10 straight. You have to beat good teams to be good. As usual, SEC is tough.
Picture Day is the 18th but I will be in Florida fishing. My daughter will take care of that as last year she got 59 autographs on the large team photo for me.

 

[candycorn]

We should get the government (i.e. schools) out of sports all together. It's mission creep in the worst way.

Public school athletics does excellent things.

It's excellent at wasting money and possibly highlighting poorly aligned priorities; I'll grant you that.

 

[candycorn]

Some high schools down south - you'd be shocked at how big a deal the football team is and what size stadiums they pack. But most sports at most schools certainly don't turn a 'profit' any more than the band or the Chess Club.

So the schools still lose money on the enterprise. Amazing how it's perfectly okay in this aspect yet if we spend a dime that we don't expect repayment of in another one, some here scream "socialism".


In your opinion.


You sound like a couch potato yourself.


If a "community" has more than 1 high school, how do you determine which asone "represents" the "spirit of the commnity"? You can't.

You can have some alumni who think they are somehow connected to the school they graduated by watching a football team. They could, of course, volunteer to tutor kids at that school as well but, hey, that means actual commitment.

Priorities...

Since the time of the ancient Greeks it has been recognized that a sound mind and a sound body are mutually supportive and equally beneficial in developing educated citizens. Learning to work in teams, understanding tradition, building determination - with all that implies - and *gasp* humility are only a few of the attributes gained through competitive sport. These are skills, experiences, and life lessons that will exceed and outlast much of what else is learned during school years.

That's sweet...

Back to reality...

Meanwhile, one of our prized athletes is about to be banned until 2016 for doping, a former MVP has been banned for 100+ games, dozens of former points of pride in the "local communiteis" can't show their face at the ballpark and get snubbed at the hall of fame every year. Capitalists players are interested in shopping their talent only to the highest bidder regardless of "community spirit".

All of that is true and important but that isn't the point of school...

School is meant to educated students. You can get just as much exposure to strategy, teamwork, tactics, etc... in intramurals although I failed to see where my hundreds of trips up to the top of the stadium running bleachers ever was desgined to teach tactics, teamwork or strategy.

Private enterprise could eliminate this needless tax burden. If parents want their kids to be jocks, they can pay for it outside of school, get expert coaching (or take their business elsewhere), play other top teams instead of the district doormats, place their kids on teams that are a pipeline to the next level perhaps, etc...

Parents want athletics in the schools.
Take your kids to a school that does not have it.
Even the private schools see the advantages in education having athletics at their schools.
Good luck.

Parents are used to having intermurals in schools, true. If you were to try to introduce such a crazy assed waste of money today you'd be laughed out of the room.

"Yes, I know we can't pay teachers or provide excellent balanced meals, that our textbooks are generations behind, that our curriculum is the same that it was in 1975, that our buildings are falling apart, and that security concerns are real concerns these days...screw all of that and lets build a football stadium."

Physical education is important; playing your cross-town rival in field hockey isn't. Sorry. That is logic.