Let's talk about the rights enumerated in the 5th and 8th amendments.

Interesting. How do you feel that would protect the rights of a Citizen under the Bill of Rights?


Well, that wouldn't be the POINT of such a program, but IF I was in charge of hte program, it would get the most animalistic monsters out of our prisons, so that the more, human criminals would not be caged with them.


Thus, making their sentences,.... hopefully more humane.


And indeed, even the animals, would be in a place where their implues to butcher and torture each other, would be controlled.
 
Well, that wouldn't be the POINT of such a program, but IF I was in charge of hte program, it would get the most animalistic monsters out of our prisons, so that the more, human criminals would not be caged with them.


Thus, making their sentences,.... hopefully more humane.


And indeed, even the animals, would be in a place where their implues to butcher and torture each other, would be controlled.
I understand. Back to my question though and this is not a hit piece - we disagree so I want to hear you out.

Even prisoners have rights under the Constitution. How would foreign imprisonment not conflict with those rights? This includes the right to appeal, to meet with counsel, to be free from cruel or unusual punishment as defined in the US, etc.
 
I understand. Back to my question though and this is not a hit piece - we disagree so I want to hear you out.

Even prisoners have rights under the Constitution. How would foreign imprisonment not conflict with those rights? This includes the right to appeal, to meet with counsel, to be free from cruel or unusual punishment as defined in the US, etc.


Nothing saying that a prisoner held in el salvador would not have the right to appeal, and as I said, I think being held at the "mercy" of ms-13 and their ilk, is more cruel than NOT.
 
Both are true. The salient question being.........what happens next?

Will the slow moving march towards a full blown constitutional crisis (and autocratic rule), because it has happened incrementally, not elicit a reaction commensurate with the seriousness of what is happening? What will the Roberts court do next? What can it do?
What happens next?

Donald Trump May Impose Martial Law-Type Order On April 20.​


look it up.
 
Nothing saying that a prisoner held in el salvador would not have the right to appeal, and as I said, I think being held at the "mercy" of ms-13 and their ilk, is more cruel than NOT.
How would they make appeals in a foreign country? How would they meet with counsel? This violates the 5th Amendment.
CECOT would likely be held as cruel and unusual conditions, which would violate the 8th Amendment.

How would you square that circle?
 
I think even trump fans would agree what we know about the conditions in El Salvador's CECOT prison constitutes punishment that is cruel and unusual by US standards.
Bullshit. CECOT is state of the art. It's a very sweet-ass top of the line prison.
 
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Meanwhile dems shit on due process when it comes to Red Flag laws.

And the January 6 defendants.

Are you really as stupid as you post????

You elected a rapist as President, you moron. You're putting drunks, rapists, and con artists, and their entire criminal network into the White House. And they're destroying the country.

You're worried about immigrants when you're electing the WORST CRIMINALS to high office.

No, you're lying again.

You're also foaming at the mouth and screeching incoherently. Calm down, you're going to pop a blood vessel.

It is possible that you really are so... full of your own lies, that you cannot tell my clear sincerity.

BUT, no, you are just shit talking.

DISMISSED.

No, I truly think she has some serious mental problems. Most of what she posts now amounts to semi-coherent mouth-frothing gibberish.
 
Trump is ignoring the Constitution and daring anyone to do anything about it
Ignoring the Constitution

Violating free speech rights
Due process rights
Habeas corpus rights

And ignoring direct SUPREME COURT rulings

This man has to go
 
Why did you cheer when Joe Biden openly defied the Supreme Court and bragged about it on social media?
I held my head in my hands and sobbed. Truly pitiful and disgusting.
Then I pounded my fists on my desk and screamed "God damn you Joe, God damn you"
 
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Our constitution recognizes the right to face charges against you regardless of what you are accused of

Ted Bundy got a fair trial
And Hunter Biden got a pardon that protects him from accountability for both past and future crimes.
 
No, I truly think she has some serious mental problems. Most of what she posts now amounts to semi-coherent mouth-frothing gibberish.
"Now"?

Why the fuck did you choose that particular qualifier?

Is she a former non-moonbat? :dunno: Are you trying to imply there was a time when she did not max out the scale of moonbattery?

If you think so, please cite some previous non-moonbatty posts from the Dragonlady thingy.
 
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