Let's talk about the rights enumerated in the 5th and 8th amendments.

[Captain Caveman]

Typical Republican willing to ignore the Constitution as long as it supports their agenda

Ok. But back to what I asked, "Is that good or bad?".

 

[berg80]

The difference is that mine is clearly true

Only in your head.

 

[rightwinger]

Ok. But back to what I asked, "Is that good or bad?".

BAD

Our Constitution is the bedrock our nation was built on.

 

[berg80]

Is that good or bad?

How would it be good for the prez to defy a ruling from the SC?

 

[Captain Caveman]

BAD

Our Constitution is the bedrock our nation was built on.

Although the US constitution is well out of date.

The reason why laws and constitutions exist is because things happened, they come about because of wrongs. Not everything wrong is against the law or constitutions. So as things happen, laws and constitutions change/update.

So let any president test the constitution and laws, and let congress make it more robust. If they don't, it's their fault, and you guys elected them to represent you.

 

[Muhammed]

When you base your beliefs on demonstrably false propaganda they fall victim to lies and distortions of the truth.

Go ahead and attempt to demonstrate it to be false.

I'll show you where your logic fails.

 

[rightwinger]

So let any president test the constitution and laws, and let congress make it more robust. If they don't, it's their fault, and you guys elected them to represent you.

Trump said the Constitution should be terminated if it gets in his way

Is this really the country you want?

 

[Correll]

Only in your head.

When you lefties supported the policies of allowing tens of millions of illegals into the country, you set this up to be a messy crisis.

That's cleary true.

MEanwhile the shit talk you spew, is just shit.

You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.


YOu lefties have LOST the debate of ideas and you know it.

Thus your refusal to engage in any honest discussion.



ALL you do is shit talk.

 

[berg80]

Although the US constitution is well out of date.

Hmmmm. So if trump defies it it's out of date. I've never seen a group pf people come up with such bizarre rationalizations in my life.

 

[berg80]

When you lefties supported the policies of allowing tens of millions of illegals into the country

That is an overt lie I invite you to try to prove.

 

[Correll]

That is an overt lie I invite you to try to prove.

Dude.... have some pride.

 

[marvin martian]

How would it be good for the prez to defy a ruling from the SC?

You cheered loudly when Joe Biden did it.

He even bragged about it, and you clapped like a trained seal.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Typical Republican willing to ignore the Constitution as long as it supports their agenda

What part of shall not be infringed don’t you understand?

 

[berg80]

Although the US constitution is well out of date.

The reason why laws and constitutions exist is because things happened, they come about because of wrongs. Not everything wrong is against the law or constitutions. So as things happen, laws and constitutions change/update.

So let any president test the constitution and laws, and let congress make it more robust. If they don't, it's their fault, and you guys elected them to represent you.

"It is pretty obviously illegal and unconstitutional," said Ilya Somin, a professor at George Mason University’s Antonin Scalia Law School.

Immigration law that gives the government the authority to deport people simply does not apply to U.S. citizens, noted Emma Winger, a lawyer at the American Immigration Council, a nonprofit advocacy group.

 

[my2¢]

The reason folks like me keep referring to Abrego Garcia's due process rights under the Constitution is because the 5th A makes no mention of a citizenship requirement for its application. Therefore, because he was not afforded 'procedural due process," his rights were violated.

I'm inclined to disagree.

Slaves weren't afforded rights under the 5th amendment as they were not considered citizens until passage of the 14th amendment decades later, upon conclusion of the Civil War.

 

[berg80]

You cheered loudly when Joe Biden did it.

He even bragged about it, and you clapped like a trained seal.

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Ah yes, the inevitable false equivalence. What took you so long?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Perhaps. imo, that reflects more on the courts, than me.


If you were being sent into a prison to do some time, would you rather have ms-13 in charge of the yard, or the actual warden as in El Salvador MAX?

Would you support US citizens, actual citizens, being sent there?

 

[berg80]

I'm inclined to disagree.

Slaves weren't afforded rights under the 5th amendment as they were not considered citizens until passage of the 14th amendment decades later, upon conclusion of the Civil War.

Slaves were not protected under the Fifth Amendment. The Fifth Amendment protects individuals from being deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, but slaves were legally considered property, not persons, so the amendment did not protect them from being taken or sold without compensation.

 

[Correll]

Would you support US citizens, actual citizens, being sent there?

Possibly, depending on the details of the program.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Possibly, depending on the details of the program.

Interesting. How do you feel that would protect the rights of a Citizen under the Bill of Rights?