Lets make clear that the German Reich exists and we are its citizens

[Kruska]

.....And, enemy mine, to be a "Reichsbürger" (or to propagate this absurde concept) means for me that you are a member or organisator of a terror organisation. I think we are much too tolerant in case of such terror organisations and in case of organized criminality.

Where did I propagate/support the Reichsbürger movement? - you Prussian idiot.

 

[fncceo]

A thread between two mentally ill Europeans on a message board created for Americans to discuss American topics.

 

[Kruska]

A thread between two mentally ill Europeans on a message board created for Americans to discuss American topics.

Hmm..., haven't noticed any discussion between YOU and others on this thread.

BTW - this thread is under EUROPE - and NO Trump hasn't occupied nor proposed to purchase it.

 

[TheInfiniteSadness]

Kruska and zaangalewa I'm not arguing with you, I'm learning from you. I'm Canadian and only know so much about Germany from what I've read over the years. The word Reich is nothing more than a word to me which has been used to refer to various empires over the years and is known to North America because of the war. Most people younger than thirty here probably don't even knows it exists.

I can only guess that when you refer to "the German states of America" it's because Germans settled there. Saying it to Americans would bother them. If you had said the German Provinces of Canada I would have corrected you because we could be the Ukrainian, French and so many other nationalities depending on where they live. I do like that Dance of Death video. I thought Corvux Corax was folk music and discovered it was medieval. Not something I would have come across on my own.

 

[TheInfiniteSadness]

Kruska and zaangalewa I'm not arguing with you, I'm learning from you. I'm Canadian and only know so much about Germany from what I've read over the years. Word Reich is nothing more than a word to me which has been used to refer to various empires over the years and is known to North America because of the war. Most people younger than thirty here probably don't even knows it exists.

I can only guess that when you refer to "the German states of America" it's because Germans settled there. Saying it to Americans would bother them. If you had said the German provinces of Canada I would have corrected you because we could be the Ukrainian, French and so many other nationalities depending on where they live. I do like that dance of death video. Not something I would have come across on my own.

 

[Kruska]

Kruska and zaangalewa I'm not arguing with you, I'm learning from you. I'm Canadian and only know so much about Germany from what I've read over the years. Word Reich is nothing more than a word to me which has been used to refer to various empires over the years and is known to North America because of the war. Most people younger than thirty here probably don't even knows it exists.

No problem at all - that is why I tried to give you an impression/insight as to what this "Reich" issue is about.

I can only guess that when you refer to "the German states of America" it's because Germans settled there. Saying it to Americans would bother them. If you had said the German provinces of Canada I would have corrected you because we could be the Ukrainian, French and so many other nationalities depending on where they live. I do like that dance of death video. Not something I would have come across on my own.

Here you are addressing solely zaangalewa - I am not into this nonsense.

He might be referring to German immigrants as a whole or e.g. specifically to those that settled in the then independent Republic of Texas starting in the 1830'ies - founding cities or towns like, Bulverde, New Braunfels, Fredericksburg, Boerne, Pflugerville, Walburg and Comfort in the Texas Hill Country; Muenster in North Texas; and Schulenburg, Brenham, Industry, New Ulm and Weimar in East Texas. - aka a colonial-society around 1845 calling themselves Mainzer Adelsverein, chaired by Prinz Carl zu Solms-Braunfels - tried to establish for a year or so even an own/independnet German colony in Texas.

BTW - German was an offical language in Texas till WW1. Nowadys they refer to a Texas-German language

Another center of German colonists was Wisconsin/Milwaukee - Nowadays they refer to a Wisconisn-German language

 

[zaangalewa]

What about the Kingdom of Bavaria?

Do you speak with me? In this time of history I had perhaps been an "Illuminati" - a rebellious Bavarian republican. In my own time of history now I'm a great admirer of the only true king (next to king David and king Salomon) who ever lived: King Ludwig II. But I have the feeling Bavaria in general never had really bad governments so I guess I always had been a peace loving rebell.

 

[zaangalewa]

A thread between two mentally ill Europeans on a message board created for Americans to discuss American topics.

Says an avatar identity of the great US-American Moshe Dayan.

Sag mal, Arschloch, kannst Du auch irgendetwas anderes als unjüdisch arrogant und beleidigend zu sein oder is arrogant und beleidigend sein mittlerweile ein Synonym dafür ein anständiger Amerikaner zu sein?
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Tell me, asshole, can you do anything but be un-Jewishly arrogant and insulting, or is being arrogant and insulting now synonymous with being a decent American?

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Here: Global discussion - Europe - Attack from English speaking terrorists ("Reichsbürger" ="citizens of the empire") against the German democracy.

 

[zaangalewa]

Where did I propagate/support the Reichsbürger movement? - you Prussian idiot.

Are you Bleipriester, absurde anti-American, anti-European, anti-German, anti-Bavarian and anti-Prussian? And by the way: You are a Reichsbürger denying the German democracy. But could also be you are a Trumperican who attacks in general republican democracies and fights for free tyrannies.

 

[zaangalewa]

Kruska and zaangalewa I'm not arguing with you, I'm learning from you. I'm Canadian and only know so much about Germany from what I've read over the years.

I would say Germany is the most anti-known country of the world in the English and French speaking world.

The word Reich is nothing more than a word to me

"Reich" means for example "rich". "Rich" is also only a word for you, isn't it?

which has been used to refer to various empires over the years and is known to North America because of the war. Most people younger than thirty here probably don't even knows it exists.

Das "Heilige Reich" - the "Holy Empire" - was another name for the Franconian Empire. To be "frank" means something like to be happy, to be self-effective, to be noble, to be free. "France" is by the way a German word. "English" is a German word too.

I can only guess that when you refer to "the German states of America" it's because Germans settled there.

No. Germans don't call themselves "Germans". We call us "deutsch". "Deutsch" is an adjective like English, Irish or French. You write it only like a noun. And the adjective "deutsch" means something like "to be united by using the same clear language". With other words: If you do not need an interpreter when you speak with someone else then he is "deutsch", he is a German. And do not forget: the people in former times had much more dialects and languages as it is today - and this languages had been in a much higher flow. For a talented man who lived 1000 years ago it was absolutelly not any problem to understand a Friesian and a Swiss Aleman and to speak with them Pommeranian.

Example. A friend of mine and two of his friends had this little conversation once in German. A said to B "La da tid!" B asked C: "What did he say?" C answered "Lou da amal dahoi!". B was confused because he spoke only standard German. He was not able to understand "Lass dir Zeit!" = "Take your time!".
So all this three sentences "La da tid!", "Lou da amal dahoi!" and "Lass dir Zeit!" are the same - and the people who had been able to understand the messages without interpreter had been "united by using the same language" had been "deutsch".

So when I say in German "Die deutschen Staaten von Amerika" then this is the same as to say "The united states of America". It is the direct expression of "e pluribus unum".

Saying it to Americans would bother them.

Exactly. And to be honest: On good reasons. I made this example for Germans. But many Germans are meanwhile not only lost in translations but also lost in Anglicisms.

If you had said the German Provinces of Canada I would have corrected

This I never would say.

you because we could be the Ukrainian, French and so many other nationalities depending on where they live. I do like that Dance of Death video. I thought Corvux Corax was folk music and discovered it was medieval. Not something I would have come across on my own.

The text is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.

In general: In Germany exists a wide spread mediavel movement - specially mediavel costumes, mediavel markets, mediavel marriages and mediavel music. This is a lot of fun and authenticity is not really asked - but often also existing.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Today’s Germany is bland and woke. So “you” can shutup.

Oh and, multi racial.

 

[Zebra]

Ceased to exist in 1918/19 - thank God - who want's to be ruled by some self-elected, hereditary monarch??
BTW - the last one we had in Neu-Schwanstein was 6/7 Prussian.

Why Prussian?

 

[zaangalewa]

Today’s Germany is bland and woke. So “you” can shutup.

Oh and, multi racial.

Believe it or not, anti-German and anti-knower: It's absolutelly not any problem to be multi-cultural in a middle age market or to offer food and lifestyle from whatever place of the world. Most people have just simple absurde ideas about the pasts. I remember in the moment for example a young rich lady from the stone ages more than 10,000 years ago. She travelled more than one time a distance of about 1000 miles.



Soaring into the evening sky
Tonight the magic tunes
Wild people and Lilith's kind
Lurking winds secretly ride

Let us roam to the fires
Reaching for the stars with a murmur
Good word and bad
Today we carry away and away

Our dreams will ring in the willows
And the winds will sing our songs
Let's jump over the fire with the sparks
On Walpurgis night

Hear the violins, hear the violins
The fires are lit
Follow the round dance, follow the round dance
On Walpurgis night.

Impetuous in the playing of the violins
Our nocturnal round dance turns
And we join wildly and freely
Join this ancient magic

Once only in a large circle
We dance in that way
Until the first morning light
breaks the fabric of our dreams

In the willows our dreams will ring
And the winds will sing our songs
Let's jump over the fire with the sparks
On Walpurgis night

Hear the violins, hear the violins
The fires are kindled
Follow the round dance, follow the round dance
On Walpurgis night

 

[zaangalewa]

Why Prussian?

This racist idiots think the genetics makes a Bavarian king. The noble houses in Europe had many sources. Some of the ancestors of king Ludwig II had been "Prussians" - more exact nobles from the house Hohenzollern. But the origin of the house Hohenzollern is not in Prussia. They came once from Swabia (=Sueben).

Reality is: The house Wittelsbach (Bavaria) is very old. One of the eldest houses at all in Europe. They governed Bavaria for more than 800 years. But the house Wittelsbach also had for example kings in Hungaria, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Greece.

Fortunatelly the nobles in Europe are not any longer under the pressure they had been in former times. Marriages today have not to be political marriages any longer for example. Otto von Habsburg - I called him often "the last emperor" because he was the last noble of the house Habsburg who had been educated to be able to be an emperor - ... so this "last emperor" Otto von Habsburg had been a Bavarian citizen and was a very convinced democrat and was for long long years a member of the European parliament. The house Habsburg is also a very old noble house - if not the eldest at all.



The melody of the German national anthem is the melody of last hymn of the Holy Roman Empire and was also used once in the Austrian Empire from the house Habsburg. Otto von Habsburg - "the last emperor" - was apparently the only well-known German politician who correctly assessed Putin's dangerousness from the outset. Unfortunately, nobody listened to him - not even me. But optimism doesn't always help and things don't always turn out well.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Believe it or not, anti-German and anti-knower: It's absolutelly not any problem to be multi-cultural in a middle age market or to offer food and lifestyle from whatever place of the world. Most people have just simple absurde ideas about the pasts. I remember in the moment for example a young rich lady from the stone ages more than 10,000 years ago. She travelled more than one time a distance of about 1000 miles.



Soaring into the evening sky
Tonight the magic tunes
Wild people and Lilith's kind
Lurking winds secretly ride

Let us roam to the fires
Reaching for the stars with a murmur
Good word and bad
Today we carry away and away

Our dreams will ring in the willows
And the winds will sing our songs
Let's jump over the fire with the sparks
On Walpurgis night

Hear the violins, hear the violins
The fires are lit
Follow the round dance, follow the round dance
On Walpurgis night.

Impetuous in the playing of the violins
Our nocturnal round dance turns
And we join wildly and freely
Join this ancient magic

Once only in a large circle
We dance in that way
Until the first morning light
breaks the fabric of our dreams

In the willows our dreams will ring
And the winds will sing our songs
Let's jump over the fire with the sparks
On Walpurgis night

Hear the violins, hear the violins
The fires are kindled
Follow the round dance, follow the round dance
On Walpurgis night

Didn’t understand one word.

 

[Kruska]

Why Prussian?

His Mother was a Princess of Prussia - his father was a mix of Saxony and Bavarian - Anyway, the entire Clan came from YOUR area - respectively North of your place - Mannheim/Heidelberg vicinity, in the 17th century.

Persistent rumor has it, that the King of Bavaria wasn't his father but some Prussian cavalry officer. This claim being supported due to the House of Wittelsbach having continuously refused to have his body exhumed and "tested". Furthermore his non-existent familiarity with his father and his "extraordinary" height - totally out of the Bavarian average and about 20 cm higher then his brother Otto.

Ludwig II, didn't even speak Bavarian - but Deutsch. He didn't give a shit about Bavaria - and even sold his right as a follower in line for being German Kaiser to Bismarck aka the Prussians. - so he could build fantasy castles.

Not even to mention his "fanatic" affinity to German Saga's and German virtues - expressed via his endless devotion to Richard Wagner and all these GERMAN legendary figures.

The useless fellow even refused to attend a parade sending off Bavarian troops to fight against Prussia and never visited the front-line even once. His favorite color was Prussian-Blue - just as all these war-and merit medals he "designed" right down to his own uniform.

His fathers Uniform - Bavarian Blue

His Prussian-Blue uniform

 

[zaangalewa]

Didn’t understand one word.

Very easy: You are no German.

 

[zaangalewa]

His Mother was ...

his mother. This I know because I'm familiar with medicine, genetics and evolutionary epistemology

 

[zaangalewa]

His Mother was a Princess of Prussia - his father was a mix of Saxony and Bavarian - Anyway, the entire Clan came from YOUR area - respectively North of your place - Mannheim/Heidelberg vicinity, in the 17th century.

Persistent rumor has it, that the King of Bavaria wasn't his father but some Prussian cavalry officer. This claim being supported due to the House of Wittelsbach having continuously refused to have his body exhumed and "tested". Furthermore his non-existent familiarity with his father and his "extraordinary" height - totally out of the Bavarian average and about 20 cm higher then his brother Otto.

Ludwig II, didn't even speak Bavarian - but Deutsch. He didn't give a shit about Bavaria - and even sold his right as a follower in line for being German Kaiser to Bismarck aka the Prussians. - so he could build fantasy castles.

Not even to mention his "fanatic" affinity to German Saga's and German virtues - expressed via his endless devotion to Richard Wagner and all these GERMAN legendary figures.

The useless fellow even refused to attend a parade sending off Bavarian troops to fight against Prussia and never visited the front-line even once. His favorite color was Prussian-Blue - just as all these war-and merit medals he "designed" right down to his own uniform.

His fathers Uniform - Bavarian Blue

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His Prussian-Blue uniform

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Bad luck for you that we love him.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Very easy: You are no German.

Correct!