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In that case, you're welcome for posting a thread that dispels your misguided belief.I never got the feeling of any quid pro quid, just that Obama was interesting in help out the "other side" at the expense of the American side.
How did the deployment of a NATO run defensive missile system designed to protect part of Europe help Russia? They strenuously objected to the deployment.An American President who is looking forward to being able to using his power to help a rival of this nation
How did the deployment of a NATO run defensive missile system designed to protect part of Europe help Russia? They strenuously objected to the deployment.An American President who is looking forward to being able to using his power to help a rival of this nation
Obama secretly colluded with Russia and got busted.Why? Did you read the article I provided a link for?Obama should've been impeached over that comment.
Said the Trumplehead, in contradiction to the facts in evidence. I appreciate you proving the thesis of the thread, and unwittingly proving what a deluded, misinformed nitwit you are.Obama secretly colluded with Russia and got busted.
As I said, you're welcome for posting a thread that dispels your misguided belief.Don't know. But the intent, imo, that he was looking forward to being able to help them at the expense of America,
I’m gonna guess you’re a snowflake who has spent years dreaming about licking Obama’s balls.This one came up quite a bit after Individual 1's attempted quid pro quo with Ukranian President Zelensky was exposed. It has to do with a "hot mic" comment Obama made to then Russian President Medvedev back in 2012. The famous "After my election I'll have more flexibility," remark. Oh, how right wing media and the nutbaggers who consume it got their shorts in a bunch over that. It was all the rage and all they raged about inside the bubble head's sound chamber for quite some time. It still comes up, most recently mentioned by a prolific resident flame baiter who will remain nameless...........but you know who you are.
Essentially the accusation is Obama was doing something nefarious in suggesting he and Russia (a message was to be delivered to Putin) make some kind of covert agreement after Obama's re-election. In the case of the aforementioned flame baiter the claim was Obama and Putin had engaged in a quid pro quo. Presumably to compromise Europe's security in exchange for.............frankly..............you'd have to ask a Trumpette about that.
So much for the set-up. Here are the facts........more comprehensively explained by CNN than I could in the following article.
U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield
U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield
The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.www.cnn.com
The crux of the matter being.....................
"Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."
I encourage anyone who has managed to get this far in the thread to read the entire article. It puts to rest the notion that anything untoward happened on that stage that day. For those wingnuts who dismiss the contents of the article because of its source I invite you to offer a factual rebuttal.
It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.
Said the Trumplehead, in contradiction to the facts in evidence. I appreciate you proving the thesis of the thread, and unwittingly proving what a deluded, misinformed nitwit you are.Obama secretly colluded with Russia and got busted.
Talking about “intent” with no real evidence as TO the intent is yea... a matter of beliefAs I said, you're welcome for posting a thread that dispels your misguided belief.Don't know. But the intent, imo, that he was looking forward to being able to help them at the expense of America,
His statement is not a matter of belief. The intent seems clear. He wanted to help the Russians at the expense of the American people and was looking forward to doing so.
Squabbling over whether he was being "paid" to do that, or just doing out of a feeling of anti-Americanism, seems pointless.
Talking about “intent” with no real evidence as TO the intent is yea... a matter of beliefAs I said, you're welcome for posting a thread that dispels your misguided belief.Don't know. But the intent, imo, that he was looking forward to being able to help them at the expense of America,
His statement is not a matter of belief. The intent seems clear. He wanted to help the Russians at the expense of the American people and was looking forward to doing so.
Squabbling over whether he was being "paid" to do that, or just doing out of a feeling of anti-Americanism, seems pointless.
one that ASSUMES the”feeling” you baselessly assign
Newflash, leftist dork! Remember the nukes that were in Turkey? Yeah, well Erdogan is a POS and those nukes have been in Romania for quite some time now. Back when Erdogan was showing his ass is when they got moved."The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.Or just give the post a DISLIKE and move on.
The system, to be operated by NATO, is getting up and running nearly a decade after the U.S. first announced plans to do so, only to encounter pushback from Russia. The U.S. has long insisted that the shield is directed against rogue states like Iran and not intended to target Moscow's missiles, but Russian officials have slammed the move as an "attempt to destroy the strategic balance" in Europe."
Some folks just dislike the facts.
This one came up quite a bit after Individual 1's attempted quid pro quo with Ukranian President Zelensky was exposed. It has to do with a "hot mic" comment Obama made to then Russian President Medvedev back in 2012. The famous "After my election I'll have more flexibility," remark. Oh, how right wing media and the nutbaggers who consume it got their shorts in a bunch over that. It was all the rage and all they raged about inside the bubble head's sound chamber for quite some time. It still comes up, most recently mentioned by a prolific resident flame baiter who will remain nameless...........but you know who you are.
Essentially the accusation is Obama was doing something nefarious in suggesting he and Russia (a message was to be delivered to Putin) make some kind of covert agreement after Obama's re-election. In the case of the aforementioned flame baiter the claim was Obama and Putin had engaged in a quid pro quo. Presumably to compromise Europe's security in exchange for.............frankly..............you'd have to ask a Trumpette about that.
So much for the set-up. Here are the facts........more comprehensively explained by CNN than I could in the following article.
U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield
U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield
The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.
The crux of the matter being.....................
"Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."
I encourage anyone who has managed to get this far in the thread to read the entire article. It puts to rest the notion that anything untoward happened on that stage that day. For those wingnuts who dismiss the contents of the article because of its source I invite you to offer a factual rebuttal.
It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.
This one came up quite a bit after Individual 1's attempted quid pro quo with Ukranian President Zelensky was exposed. It has to do with a "hot mic" comment Obama made to then Russian President Medvedev back in 2012. The famous "After my election I'll have more flexibility," remark. Oh, how right wing media and the nutbaggers who consume it got their shorts in a bunch over that. It was all the rage and all they raged about inside the bubble head's sound chamber for quite some time. It still comes up, most recently mentioned by a prolific resident flame baiter who will remain nameless...........but you know who you are.
Essentially the accusation is Obama was doing something nefarious in suggesting he and Russia (a message was to be delivered to Putin) make some kind of covert agreement after Obama's re-election. In the case of the aforementioned flame baiter the claim was Obama and Putin had engaged in a quid pro quo. Presumably to compromise Europe's security in exchange for.............frankly..............you'd have to ask a Trumpette about that.
So much for the set-up. Here are the facts........more comprehensively explained by CNN than I could in the following article.
U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield
U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield
The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.
The crux of the matter being.....................
"Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."
I encourage anyone who has managed to get this far in the thread to read the entire article. It puts to rest the notion that anything untoward happened on that stage that day. For those wingnuts who dismiss the contents of the article because of its source I invite you to offer a factual rebuttal.
It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.
Is this a Republican myth too?
Is this a Republican myth too?
If it was good for america, then why did he want Putin to wait till after the election to do it?Said the Trumplehead, in contradiction to the facts in evidence. I appreciate you proving the thesis of the thread, and unwittingly proving what a deluded, misinformed nitwit you are.Obama secretly colluded with Russia and got busted.
In that case, you're welcome for posting a thread that dispels your misguided belief.I never got the feeling of any quid pro quid, just that Obama was interesting in help out the "other side" at the expense of the American side.
But if that was not him meaning that what was his meaning?
And, which is worse,
1. An American President who is looking forward to being able to using his power to help a rival of this nation, at the expense of his nation, just because he wants to.
or
2. an American President who is willing to use his power to help a rival of this nation, in return for some service.
And yet, the facts don't support your nutbag level conspiracy theory.His statement is not a matter of belief. The intent seems clear. He wanted to help the Russians at the expense of the American people and was looking forward to doing so.
