Let's debunk a popular right wing myth, shall we.

[LeftofLeft]

This article did nothing to dispel the Left’s myth that Trump is Putin’s bitch and Obama was not.

 

[bodecea]

This one came up quite a bit after Individual 1's attempted quid pro quo with Ukranian President Zelensky was exposed. It has to do with a "hot mic" comment Obama made to then Russian President Medvedev back in 2012. The famous "After my election I'll have more flexibility," remark. Oh, how right wing media and the nutbaggers who consume it got their shorts in a bunch over that. It was all the rage and all they raged about inside the bubble head's sound chamber for quite some time. It still comes up, most recently mentioned by a prolific resident flame baiter who will remain nameless...........but you know who you are.

Essentially the accusation is Obama was doing something nefarious in suggesting he and Russia (a message was to be delivered to Putin) make some kind of covert agreement after Obama's re-election. In the case of the aforementioned flame baiter the claim was Obama and Putin had engaged in a quid pro quo. Presumably to compromise Europe's security in exchange for.............frankly..............you'd have to ask a Trumpette about that.

So much for the set-up. Here are the facts........more comprehensively explained by CNN than I could in the following article.

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.

www.cnn.com

The crux of the matter being.....................
"Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."

I encourage anyone who has managed to get this far in the thread to read the entire article. It puts to rest the notion that anything untoward happened on that stage that day. For those wingnuts who dismiss the contents of the article because of its source I invite you to offer a factual rebuttal.

It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.

Let's have an investigation and have Obama testify under oath then. If that what really happened, he should have no problem with a probe

Indictments any day now...any day now...any day now...any day now....

 

[bodecea]

This article did nothing to dispel the Left’s myth that Trump is Putin’s bitch and Obama was not.

It's not a myth.

 

[Polishprince]

This one came up quite a bit after Individual 1's attempted quid pro quo with Ukranian President Zelensky was exposed. It has to do with a "hot mic" comment Obama made to then Russian President Medvedev back in 2012. The famous "After my election I'll have more flexibility," remark. Oh, how right wing media and the nutbaggers who consume it got their shorts in a bunch over that. It was all the rage and all they raged about inside the bubble head's sound chamber for quite some time. It still comes up, most recently mentioned by a prolific resident flame baiter who will remain nameless...........but you know who you are.

Essentially the accusation is Obama was doing something nefarious in suggesting he and Russia (a message was to be delivered to Putin) make some kind of covert agreement after Obama's re-election. In the case of the aforementioned flame baiter the claim was Obama and Putin had engaged in a quid pro quo. Presumably to compromise Europe's security in exchange for.............frankly..............you'd have to ask a Trumpette about that.

So much for the set-up. Here are the facts........more comprehensively explained by CNN than I could in the following article.

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.

www.cnn.com

The crux of the matter being.....................
"Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."

I encourage anyone who has managed to get this far in the thread to read the entire article. It puts to rest the notion that anything untoward happened on that stage that day. For those wingnuts who dismiss the contents of the article because of its source I invite you to offer a factual rebuttal.

It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.

Let's have an investigation and have Obama testify under oath then. If that what really happened, he should have no problem with a probe

Indictments any day now...any day now...any day now...any day now....

There actually is no Special Persecutor out there at all looking at the Corrupt Obama Regime.

 

[LeftofLeft]

This article did nothing to dispel the Left’s myth that Trump is Putin’s bitch and Obama was not.

It's not a myth.

Obama’s universal theme in dealing with foreign powers - friend or foe - was APPEASEMENT. The World liked him because they could influence him. The world chuckled at his “line in the sand”.

 

[berg80]

I'm still waiting for a Trumpette to challenge the factual content of the article I provided a link for.

 

[Crick]

Let's have an investigation and have Obama testify under oath then. If that what really happened, he should have no problem with a probe

The facts are laid out in the article. Are you disputing that the missile system was deployed?

I have doubts about Obama's explanation. Bringing him before a Special Persecutor would enable the public to see if he's on the up and up or not.

How?

 

[Norman]

Let's have an investigation and have Obama testify under oath then. If that what really happened, he should have no problem with a probe

The facts are laid out in the article. Are you disputing that the missile system was deployed?

You didn't actually expect any of these simpletons to read the article, did you?

They already have had their minds made up for them.

If 90% of the articles you posted weren't fake news, you might have better luck.

 

[berg80]

There are dozens of these kinds of pernicious lies. I'm going to write about them in the days to come.

Do I expect Trumpette's to admit the reason these lies exist is because their sources of info lie to them? And they accept these lies without critical examination?

Absolutely not.

If they do that they risk the entire false narrative they are so devoted to completely falling apart.

 

[berg80]

If 90% of the articles you posted weren't fake news, you might have better luck.

How about we make a deal? Agree not to label any article "fake news" unless you can disprove it.

 

[citygator]

I applaud the effort to present a rational argument on this site. However if you want Trumpeters to engage in a discussion it needs to be about how Black Names are stupid or how we can shoot Mexicans at the border. Anything else fades away to name calling of “libtards” and “socialists” quickly.

 

[BluesLegend]

Obama caught red handed COLLUDING with Russia. What is the point of your thread?

The point of the thread is to show (thank you by the way for your pitch perfect reply) there is no amount of factual refutation in the world that's enough to get a Trumpette to stop believing a lie once he/she has adopted it in to their mythological belief system.

Bro Obama was caught red handed on video with a hot mic HELLO earth to Berg.

 

[Siete]

If you have nothing to contribute to the OP's discussion, ignore the thread and MOVE ALONG! I'm tired of going from thread to thread repeating this. We'll get 30 posts and 26 of them are members just trolling and flaming each other because they don't like the subject.

Or just give the post a DISLIKE and move on.

I read you think giving dislikes gets under peoples skin - youre a f'n IDIOT.

NOBODY GIVES TWO SHITS ABOUT ANYTHING YOU OFFER THIS BOARD.

F'N MORON -

 

[berg80]

Obama caught red handed COLLUDING with Russia. What is the point of your thread?

The point of the thread is to show (thank you by the way for your pitch perfect reply) there is no amount of factual refutation in the world that's enough to get a Trumpette to stop believing a lie once he/she has adopted it in to their mythological belief system.

Bro Obama was caught red handed on video with a hot mic HELLO earth to Berg.

I'm still waiting for a Trumpette to challenge the factual content of the article I provided a link for.

 

[Markle]

This one came up quite a bit after Individual 1's attempted quid pro quo with Ukranian President Zelensky was exposed. It has to do with a "hot mic" comment Obama made to then Russian President Medvedev back in 2012. The famous "After my election I'll have more flexibility," remark. Oh, how right wing media and the nutbaggers who consume it got their shorts in a bunch over that. It was all the rage and all they raged about inside the bubble head's sound chamber for quite some time. It still comes up, most recently mentioned by a prolific resident flame baiter who will remain nameless...........but you know who you are.

Essentially the accusation is Obama was doing something nefarious in suggesting he and Russia (a message was to be delivered to Putin) make some kind of covert agreement after Obama's re-election. In the case of the aforementioned flame baiter the claim was Obama and Putin had engaged in a quid pro quo. Presumably to compromise Europe's security in exchange for.............frankly..............you'd have to ask a Trumpette about that.

So much for the set-up. Here are the facts........more comprehensively explained by CNN than I could in the following article.

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.

www.cnn.com

The crux of the matter being.....................
"Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."

I encourage anyone who has managed to get this far in the thread to read the entire article. It puts to rest the notion that anything untoward happened on that stage that day. For those wingnuts who dismiss the contents of the article because of its source I invite you to offer a factual rebuttal.

It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.

This is the literal translation of this Polish Newspaper after failed former President Barack Hussein Obama reneged on the missile system which had been promised to Poland.

"But we were nailed betrayal of the USA sold us to Russia And pounded us a knife in the back"

 

[berg80]

This one came up quite a bit after Individual 1's attempted quid pro quo with Ukranian President Zelensky was exposed. It has to do with a "hot mic" comment Obama made to then Russian President Medvedev back in 2012. The famous "After my election I'll have more flexibility," remark. Oh, how right wing media and the nutbaggers who consume it got their shorts in a bunch over that. It was all the rage and all they raged about inside the bubble head's sound chamber for quite some time. It still comes up, most recently mentioned by a prolific resident flame baiter who will remain nameless...........but you know who you are.

Essentially the accusation is Obama was doing something nefarious in suggesting he and Russia (a message was to be delivered to Putin) make some kind of covert agreement after Obama's re-election. In the case of the aforementioned flame baiter the claim was Obama and Putin had engaged in a quid pro quo. Presumably to compromise Europe's security in exchange for.............frankly..............you'd have to ask a Trumpette about that.

So much for the set-up. Here are the facts........more comprehensively explained by CNN than I could in the following article.

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.

www.cnn.com

The crux of the matter being.....................
"Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."

I encourage anyone who has managed to get this far in the thread to read the entire article. It puts to rest the notion that anything untoward happened on that stage that day. For those wingnuts who dismiss the contents of the article because of its source I invite you to offer a factual rebuttal.

It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.

This is the literal translation of this Polish Newspaper after failed former President Barack Hussein Obama reneged on the missile system which had been promised to Poland.

"But we were nailed betrayal of the USA sold us to Russia And pounded us a knife in the back"

It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.

Was the missile system deployed in 2016...............yes or no?

 

[Siete]

This one came up quite a bit after Individual 1's attempted quid pro quo with Ukranian President Zelensky was exposed. It has to do with a "hot mic" comment Obama made to then Russian President Medvedev back in 2012. The famous "After my election I'll have more flexibility," remark. Oh, how right wing media and the nutbaggers who consume it got their shorts in a bunch over that. It was all the rage and all they raged about inside the bubble head's sound chamber for quite some time. It still comes up, most recently mentioned by a prolific resident flame baiter who will remain nameless...........but you know who you are.

Essentially the accusation is Obama was doing something nefarious in suggesting he and Russia (a message was to be delivered to Putin) make some kind of covert agreement after Obama's re-election. In the case of the aforementioned flame baiter the claim was Obama and Putin had engaged in a quid pro quo. Presumably to compromise Europe's security in exchange for.............frankly..............you'd have to ask a Trumpette about that.

So much for the set-up. Here are the facts........more comprehensively explained by CNN than I could in the following article.

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.

www.cnn.com

The crux of the matter being.....................
"Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."

I encourage anyone who has managed to get this far in the thread to read the entire article. It puts to rest the notion that anything untoward happened on that stage that day. For those wingnuts who dismiss the contents of the article because of its source I invite you to offer a factual rebuttal.

It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.

This is the literal translation of this Polish Newspaper after failed former President Barack Hussein Obama reneged on the missile system which had been promised to Poland.

"But we were nailed betrayal of the USA sold us to Russia And pounded us a knife in the back"

It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.

Was the missile system deployed in 2016...............yes or no?

TIMELINES MEAN NOTHING to these dipshit TRUMPDRONES-

take Benghazi for instance -

 

[BluesLegend]

Obama caught red handed COLLUDING with Russia. What is the point of your thread?

The point of the thread is to show (thank you by the way for your pitch perfect reply) there is no amount of factual refutation in the world that's enough to get a Trumpette to stop believing a lie once he/she has adopted it in to their mythological belief system.

Bro Obama was caught red handed on video with a hot mic HELLO earth to Berg.

I'm still waiting for a Trumpette to challenge the factual content of the article I provided a link for.

Obama while colluding with Russia promised to mislead the American people until AFTER his election. "This is my last election. AFTER my election I have more flexibility. Medvedev, "I will transfer this information to Vladimir". The collusion with Putin and Russia and Obama's intent to deceive the American people is all right there in front of you. The topic of the collusion, missile defense or otherwise is irrelevant.

 

[22lcidw]

This one came up quite a bit after Individual 1's attempted quid pro quo with Ukranian President Zelensky was exposed. It has to do with a "hot mic" comment Obama made to then Russian President Medvedev back in 2012. The famous "After my election I'll have more flexibility," remark. Oh, how right wing media and the nutbaggers who consume it got their shorts in a bunch over that. It was all the rage and all they raged about inside the bubble head's sound chamber for quite some time. It still comes up, most recently mentioned by a prolific resident flame baiter who will remain nameless...........but you know who you are.

Essentially the accusation is Obama was doing something nefarious in suggesting he and Russia (a message was to be delivered to Putin) make some kind of covert agreement after Obama's re-election. In the case of the aforementioned flame baiter the claim was Obama and Putin had engaged in a quid pro quo. Presumably to compromise Europe's security in exchange for.............frankly..............you'd have to ask a Trumpette about that.

So much for the set-up. Here are the facts........more comprehensively explained by CNN than I could in the following article.

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.

www.cnn.com

The crux of the matter being.....................
"Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."

I encourage anyone who has managed to get this far in the thread to read the entire article. It puts to rest the notion that anything untoward happened on that stage that day. For those wingnuts who dismiss the contents of the article because of its source I invite you to offer a factual rebuttal.

It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.

Let's have an investigation and have Obama testify under oath then. If that what really happened, he should have no problem with a probe

Indictments any day now...any day now...any day now...any day now....

The game is fixed in the Progs favor. Has been for many years. If you are non Prog reporter, you are in the cross hairs of destruction if you investigate anything anti Prog and globalism related. That narrows it down a lot. Most non Prog people rebuff what Progs say. A few go further and are made of mockery of. Especially if any of their accusations are proven to be a bit not founded. Progs do that all the time. And still are held to high regard because they sold out. A good life is guaranteed that way. Even if tens of millions and hundreds of millions of people suffer more then they have to.

 

[lantern2814]

This one came up quite a bit after Individual 1's attempted quid pro quo with Ukranian President Zelensky was exposed. It has to do with a "hot mic" comment Obama made to then Russian President Medvedev back in 2012. The famous "After my election I'll have more flexibility," remark. Oh, how right wing media and the nutbaggers who consume it got their shorts in a bunch over that. It was all the rage and all they raged about inside the bubble head's sound chamber for quite some time. It still comes up, most recently mentioned by a prolific resident flame baiter who will remain nameless...........but you know who you are.

Essentially the accusation is Obama was doing something nefarious in suggesting he and Russia (a message was to be delivered to Putin) make some kind of covert agreement after Obama's re-election. In the case of the aforementioned flame baiter the claim was Obama and Putin had engaged in a quid pro quo. Presumably to compromise Europe's security in exchange for.............frankly..............you'd have to ask a Trumpette about that.

So much for the set-up. Here are the facts........more comprehensively explained by CNN than I could in the following article.

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

U.S. launches long-awaited European missile defense shield

The U.S. launched a new ground-based missile defense system in Romania Thursday, sparking fresh tensions with Russia, which quickly blasted the system as a threat to its security.

www.cnn.com

The crux of the matter being.....................
"Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."

I encourage anyone who has managed to get this far in the thread to read the entire article. It puts to rest the notion that anything untoward happened on that stage that day. For those wingnuts who dismiss the contents of the article because of its source I invite you to offer a factual rebuttal.

It's at this point that I want to acknowledge the futility of taking the time to write this post. Because it will not change the mind of a single Trumpette. The facts never do. The lie is too ingrained in right wing mythology to be extracted now. It's been a go-to lie far too long for that.

Day number 2,176 ina row of berg and his debunked bullshit. Yawn.