Leftists, this teen must be crushed!!!

Especially for one who is obviously afflicted with significant mental health issues, well beyond what is normal even for most thirteen-year-olds.
Exactly. Why is it allowed that such a thirteen year old is descended upon by people who see that child as a target for drugs and life altering surgery.
 
Except these kids went to shrinks and the shrinks told them the same thing. In Brockman's case, the first doctor told her "no" and she insisted on a new doctor.



Except less than 1% of people who transition transition back, and they usually do it because society isn't accepting them in their chosen gender.

If you promise to pay attention to someone, some lonely, attention starved person will always come out of the woodwork.

If there is ACTUAL MALPRATICE here, I say let the chips fall where they may. But I'm not seeing this in Brockman's filings, to be honest. I'm seeing a messed up person who insisted on a course of treatment, and convinced her parents and caregivers this was the best course of action.


Ok, so it’s Chloe’s fault…so, if a 12 year old demands to have her genitalia chopped off and the parents and the doctors agree, then years later after they have grown up and realized…oops, I was wrong, I was going through a phase and wasn’t actually feeling the way I thought I felt…we can feel safe in being able to say “well, tough luck on that, you made up you mind when you were 12 so that’s on you!”

You are clear in your stance that it’s ok to screw up a few children, as long as we’re helping people over all. I guess for the rare children who have this done and works for, great for them, but for the ones who have their lives devastated because of it….meh, we’ll just tell them they have to deal with it.

So, no use in debating it anymore….you’re fine with letting children makes life altering decisions for themselves…
 
Data show that “socially transitioned” children are far more likely to go on to medical interventions. And perhaps this is the point: After all, transgender is big business. Gender-transition surgery can cost upward of $100,000. The US gender-surgery market was valued in 2021 at $1.9 billion, with predicted annual growth of more than 10%. And when hormone therapy costs $1,500 a year, for the rest of a patient’s life, no wonder entrepreneurial medics want kids on the treatment treadmill as young as possible. Clinics are popping up like mushrooms to take advantage of this new business opportunity: The first American pediatric gender clinic opened in 2007, and there are now more than 50 nationwide.

Uh, we've been over this.

$1.9 Billion is NOTHING compared to the 4.3 TRILLION we spend on health care in this country. $1500 is really small compared to other chronic treatments.

The reality- we have a million transgender people in this country. Most of them aren't getting treatment because usually insurance won't cover it.
 
Ok, so it’s Chloe’s fault…so, if a 12 year old demands to have her genitalia chopped off and the parents and the doctors agree, then years later after they have grown up and realized…oops, I was wrong, I was going through a phase and wasn’t actually feeling the way I thought I felt…we can feel safe in being able to say “well, tough luck on that, you made up you mind when you were 12 so that’s on you!”

Hey, um, yeah, if you insist you are transgender from the time you are nine until the time you are 16, and then at 17 you change your mind for whatever reason because of the 10 other kinds of listed crazy you are suffering from... um, that's kind of on you.

Again- and I am going to repeat this because you seem to be a little slow.

IF THERE WAS ACTUAL MALPRACTICE HERE, she should collect. If they made the best decision based on the data they had, including patient input, then Brockman has no case.


You are clear in your stance that it’s ok to screw up a few children, as long as we’re helping people over all. I guess for the rare children who have this done and works for, great for them, but for the ones who have their lives devastated because of it….meh, we’ll just tell them they have to deal with it.

But we already do that, buddy. Just ask all the Ritalin Zombies who will spend most of their lives working menial jobs because their teachers and parents drugged them instead of actually trying to teach them. Now THAT'S a big business, the ADHD racket!

Now imagine if every kid diagnosed with ADHD comes back and sues his pediatrician because they thought filling him with mind altering drugs ruined his future.
 
Uh, we've been over this.

$1.9 Billion is NOTHING compared to the 4.3 TRILLION we spend on health care in this country. $1500 is really small compared to other chronic treatments.

The reality- we have a million transgender people in this country. Most of them aren't getting treatment because usually insurance won't cover it.
You have been beating this dead horse attempt at comparison for so long, its joined Eohippus as a Montanan fossil.

$1.9 Billion is a whole lot of something when that money represents a sum that the left sees as windfall profits from grooming children.


You people are now targeting 7 year olds.
 
You have been beating this dead horse attempt at comparison for so long, its joined Eohippus as a Montanan fossil.

$1.9 Billion is a whole lot of something when that money represents a sum that the left sees as windfall profits from grooming children.


You people are now targeting 7 year olds.

Do you get the idea that some are trying to get the age of consent lowered?
 
You have been beating this dead horse attempt at comparison for so long, its joined Eohippus as a Montanan fossil.

$1.9 Billion is a whole lot of something when that money represents a sum that the left sees as windfall profits from grooming children

Well, obviously there isn't a lot of money to be made, because if there were, there wouldn't be a shortage of specialists. Out of our FOUR TRILLION in spending on health care, 1.9 Billion represents 0.0475% of money spent. Barely a trickle.


The biggest barrier both to safe hormonal therapy and to appropriate general medical care for transgender patients is the lack of access to care. Despite both guidelines and data supporting the current transgender medicine treatment paradigm (813), transgender patients report that lack of providers with expertise in transgender medicine represents the single largest component inhibiting access (14). Transgender treatment is not taught in conventional medical curricula and too few physicians have the requisite knowledge and comfort level (1519)

Other reported barriers include: financial barriers (lack of insurance, lack of income), discrimination, lack of cultural competence by health care providers, health systems barriers (inappropriate electronic records, forms, lab references, clinic facilities) and socioeconomic barriers (transportation, housing, mental health). While some of these health care barriers are faced by other minority groups, many are unique and many are significantly magnified for transgender persons
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Well, obviously there isn't a lot of money to be made, because if there were, there wouldn't be a shortage of specialists. Out of our FOUR TRILLION in spending on health care, 1.9 Billion represents 0.0475% of money spent. Barely a trickle.


The biggest barrier both to safe hormonal therapy and to appropriate general medical care for transgender patients is the lack of access to care. Despite both guidelines and data supporting the current transgender medicine treatment paradigm (813), transgender patients report that lack of providers with expertise in transgender medicine represents the single largest component inhibiting access (14). Transgender treatment is not taught in conventional medical curricula and too few physicians have the requisite knowledge and comfort level (1519)

Other reported barriers include: financial barriers (lack of insurance, lack of income), discrimination, lack of cultural competence by health care providers, health systems barriers (inappropriate electronic records, forms, lab references, clinic facilities) and socioeconomic barriers (transportation, housing, mental health). While some of these health care barriers are faced by other minority groups, many are unique and many are significantly magnified for transgender persons
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That’s too damn bad.
 
Well, obviously there isn't a lot of money to be made, because if there were, there wouldn't be a shortage of specialists. Out of our FOUR TRILLION in spending on health care, 1.9 Billion represents 0.0475% of money spent. Barely a trickle.


The biggest barrier both to safe hormonal therapy and to appropriate general medical care for transgender patients is the lack of access to care. Despite both guidelines and data supporting the current transgender medicine treatment paradigm (813), transgender patients report that lack of providers with expertise in transgender medicine represents the single largest component inhibiting access (14). Transgender treatment is not taught in conventional medical curricula and too few physicians have the requisite knowledge and comfort level (1519)

Other reported barriers include: financial barriers (lack of insurance, lack of income), discrimination, lack of cultural competence by health care providers, health systems barriers (inappropriate electronic records, forms, lab references, clinic facilities) and socioeconomic barriers (transportation, housing, mental health). While some of these health care barriers are faced by other minority groups, many are unique and many are significantly magnified for transgender persons
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Well, obviously, there is a great deal of money to be made. That’s probably why hospital administrators are anxious to trans children as young as 7 years old.

The leftist groomers / money grabbers sure like those 7 year olds. You folks sure like children for your medical experiments especially when you can make a profit off their misery.



Our healthcare system is willingly mutilating the bodies of vulnerable, gender-confused people who are otherwise physically healthy but will never be so again once the procedures are finished.




 
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Well, obviously, there is a great deal of money to be made. That’s probably why hospital administrators are anxious to trans children as young as 7 years old.

Well, no, not really if there is a lack of professionals trained in that specialty, which of course, there are.

You are dense, aren't you?

Of course, now that we are getting better at recognizing gender dysphoria and treating it, there will be growth in that industry.
 
Well, no, not really if there is a lack of professionals trained in that specialty, which of course, there are.

You are dense, aren't you?

Of course, now that we are getting better at recognizing gender dysphoria and treating it, there will be growth in that industry.

Thus admitting the previous treatments were experiments on human beings

/thread.
 
Well, no, not really if there is a lack of professionals trained in that specialty, which of course, there are.

You are dense, aren't you?

Of course, now that we are getting better at recognizing gender dysphoria and treating it, there will be growth in that industry.

Well, yes, really, are there professionals trained in transing 7 year olds? I wouldn’t have thought there was training in any accredited medical school curriculum that addressed the field of study centered on doping and grooming 7 year olds regarding their transing. Would this medical school curriculum provide a 7 year old with the data on harmful effects of doping with puberty blocking drugs?

I’m curious how you might have a discussion with a 7 year old playing with dolls about life altering surgeries that involve removal of various organs.

Tell us about your experience with a medical professional who is explaining the process of a hysterectomy to a 7 year old who is more interested in watching Sponge Bob cartoons.
 
Well, yes, really, are there professionals trained in transing 7 year olds? I wouldn’t have thought there was training in any accredited medical school curriculum that addressed the field of study centered on doping and grooming 7 year olds regarding their transing. Would this medical school curriculum provide a 7 year old with the data on harmful effects of doping with puberty blocking drugs?

Nobody is getting bottom surgery at 7.

Most adult transgenders don't have access to bottom surgery.

I don't pretend to be a medical expert on this area of medicine.

I just don't think medical decisions should be made because people who believe in a book with talking snakes think it's bad.
 
Nobody is getting bottom surgery at 7.

Most adult transgenders don't have access to bottom surgery.

I don't pretend to be a medical expert on this area of medicine.

I just don't think medical decisions should be made because people who believe in a book with talking snakes think it's bad.

I never referenced bottom surgery.

You carefully and predictably sidestepped my questions as to why the left is grooming children as young as 7 years old.

You dodged addressing my questions as to how a “medical professional” would approach a doll playing / cartoon watching 7 year old with discussions about dangerous drugs and the process of hysterectomies, mastectomies and other trans surgeries.

I don’t believe that surgeries and drugs imposing life altering changes should be imposed on a 7 year old by (leftist degenerate) people who believe in child abuse because they think that’s good.
 
I never referenced bottom surgery.

You specifically talked about 7 year olds getting hysterectomies.

You dodged addressing my questions as to how a “medical professional” would approach a doll playing / cartoon watching 7 year old with discussions about dangerous drugs and the process of hysterectomies, mastectomies and other trans surgeries.

Except no one is doing that, but never mind. If a child is presenting as trans at that age, they almost always start with counselling.

Frankly, we are already pumping kids full of dangerous drugs (SSRI's) to make them more manageable in class... and parents go along with that.

 
You specifically talked about 7 year olds getting hysterectomies.



Except no one is doing that, but never mind. If a child is presenting as trans at that age, they almost always start with counselling.

Frankly, we are already pumping kids full of dangerous drugs (SSRI's) to make them more manageable in class... and parents go along with that.


You obviously don’t know what a hysterectomy is. Would you choose to lie to a 7 year old about what a hysterectomy is, instead, trying to sell “bottom surgery” as something benign?

Why are you trying to justify giving dangerous drugs to a 7 year old with the intent of pushing various mutilating surgeries on that child when she is 13 years old?

Describe for us the scenario wherein you would sit down with a child holding a doll and advise her prescription of dangerous, life altering drug therapy.

You obviously want to dodge the issue of leftists grooming 7 year olds.

You already used the pointless “SSRI’s are prescribed, too” as an excuse for child grooming. That nonsense attempt at comparison failed earlier so why bother with mindless copying and pasting of that?
 
You obviously don’t know what a hysterectomy is. Would you choose to lie to a 7 year old about what a hysterectomy is, instead, trying to sell “bottom surgery” as something benign?

You said that you weren't talking about bottom surgery, and then you talked about hysterectomies... um, that's bottom surgery.

Describe for us the scenario wherein you would sit down with a child holding a doll and advise her prescription of dangerous, life altering drug therapy.

Probably the same way they make her take Ritalin because she's acting up.

You already used the pointless “SSRI’s are prescribed, too” as an excuse for child grooming. That nonsense attempt at comparison failed earlier so why bother with mindless copying and pasting of that?

Giving kids mind altering drugs should ALWAYS be done with caution. It is with hormone therapy and puberty blockers, but they are giving out SSRI like they are fucking candy.
 
You said that you weren't talking about bottom surgery, and then you talked about hysterectomies... um, that's bottom surgery.



Probably the same way they make her take Ritalin because she's acting up.



Giving kids mind altering drugs should ALWAYS be done with caution. It is with hormone therapy and puberty blockers, but they are giving out SSRI like they are fucking candy.

Um, no. Hysterectomy is a term used to define a, you know, hysterectomy. Hysterectomy is spelled differently than bottom surgery which might have clued you in that it involves a different procedure and a different location of the body.

I wasn’t aware that puberty blockers were a treatment for a child with a chemical imbalance in the brain which is what Ritalin is used to treat.

You’re a proponent of transing children so feeding them puberty blockers would be the drugs of choice and action to take. We see that consistently with the left. A child is not “acting up” by simply having questions about biology and boys and girls. So why prescribe puberty blockers and coerce that child toward transing?

Do you believe that a 7 year child asking about the differences between boys and girls is “acting up” and therefore a candidate for drugs and a program of transing?
 

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