Leftists, this teen must be crushed!!!

[JoeB131]

Doesn't matter.

If one of them used to be a man, then he still is, regardless of what quasi-medical Frankensteinery has been applied to turn him into a mockery of a woman.

A fake is a fake, no matter how realistic.

So duly noted that you couldn't tell.

I call bullshit.

There is not, and never was, any reason, in accordance to any understanding of natural selection, to expect that black people would go extinct, as long as they continued to breed.

Don't complain to me, complain to Chucky Darwin.

The Dark Side of Darwinism | Philosophy for the Many

This wasn't an idle speculation either. One of the rationalizations for miscegenation laws was that non-whites were inferior and breeding with them would dilute the white race.

On the other hand, trannies and faggots effectively remove themselves from the gene pool. Breeding requires proper application of the difference between male and female, and those who do not make that application, and especially those who have their reproductive systems mutilated, effectively sterilizing themselves, forfeit the ability to pass their genetic detritus on to future generations.

So? Obviously, the concept of recessive genes is confusing to you. Obviously, every trans and gay person had a set of cis-gender, hetereosexual parents, but they still ended up trans or gay. My late Aunt was gay. She still had a kid (very, very sad story there).

By your logic, then we should probably let the gays and trans people live free, and in a few generations, we'll get rid of all those recessive genes. Naw, who am I kidding, the human race will probably go extinct long before then due to environmental degradation you think Jesus is fine with.

It is happening out in the open, for everyone to see. Denying it serves no purpose at all, other than to show everyone what a lying piece of shit you are; but even that is no purpose, since everyone who ahs ever interacted with you already knows.

Yup, can't rationalize your position, so obsess on me personally. You go, son!

Again, I'm really sorry I shattered your feelings by telling you the ugly truth about Joseph Smith.

 

[JoeB131]

As I am sure millions of victims would say.

FUCK YOU.

Millions? Do you really think there are millions of transgender kids who are getting these kinds of treatments?

The reality is that there are estimated to be at best 300,000 transgender youth in this country, and of those, only 5000 are getting puberty blockers. Some of those aren't getting them gender dysphoria, they are getting them for early-onset puberty so they aren't the only 10 year old with breasts. (Again, it's all those hormones that big agriculture is putting into our food, but nothing to see here. Only the hippies buy organic!)

 

[HeyNorm]

Millions? Do you really think there are millions of transgender kids who are getting these kinds of treatments?

The reality is that there are estimated to be at best 300,000 transgender youth in this country, and of those, only 5000 are getting puberty blockers. Some of those aren't getting them gender dysphoria, they are getting them for early-onset puberty so they aren't the only 10 year old with breasts. (Again, it's all those hormones that big agriculture is putting into our food, but nothing to see here. Only the hippies buy organic!)

No Joe, the rape victims that you think asked for it Joe. Because that’s what women do, right Joe? Just like this girl Joe.

You are defending the indefensible

 

[HeyNorm]

immediately apparent to me.

Let me guess, you want an alibi for various “encounters” you have had.

BTW, for those of us who actually can define what a woman is, there’s no such thing as “used to be a….”

A disguise is meant to deceive. That’s it’s purpose. I might disguise myself as another, which is perhaps harmless, it is when I claim to be that person is when it becomes harmful.

Most adults know this.

 

[JoeB131]

No Joe, the rape victims t

grow up. we aren't talking about rape victims.

We are talking about a person who presented herself as having a condition, insisted she had it, and insisted on treatments she now claims were questionable.

 

[Hollie]

A disguise is meant to deceive. That’s it’s purpose. I might disguise myself as another, which is perhaps harmless, it is when I claim to be that person is when it becomes harmful.

Most adults know this.

That's a great point. The photo posted by Joe B. was of a man whose outward appearance was that of a woman. The man might otherwise be a very nice person but the ''...who was once a man'', comment is false.

There are clearly defined physical and biological traits that delineate male and female. No amount of woke, chemicals or pandering to the groomer crowd will change mammalian biology.

 

[Hollie]

grow up. we aren't talking about rape victims.

We are talking about a person who presented herself as having a condition, insisted she had it, and insisted on treatments she now claims were questionable.

She is also making the case that supposedly educated, Hippocratic Oath lead health providers enabled an emotionally damaged early teen toward drug therapies and surgeries she was not prepared to understand.

Enabling emotionally damaged / immature teenagers by pushing them toward chemical and surgical treatments with irreversible damage really defines the goals and attitudes of the left and their religion of grooming.

 

[JoeB131]

She is also making the case that supposedly educated, Hippocratic Oath lead health providers enabled an emotionally damaged early teen toward drug therapies and surgeries she was not prepared to understand.

And if she can prove actual malpractice, then she's entitled to every penny she'll get.

Just not seeing that case in her rambling filing, though. I'm seeing someone who insisted on treatment and dragged her parents and doctors along with her.

Enabling emotionally damaged / immature teenagers by pushing them toward chemical and surgical treatments with irreversible damage really defines the goals and attitudes of the left and their religion of grooming.

Except, again, no one is doing that. If anything, it's very difficult for teens to get treatment. 300,000 transgender youth, less than 5000 are on hormone therapy. Less than one percent of people who transition want to transition back. of some 1.5 million transgender people in this country, only 11,000 a year are getting bottom surgery.

There are clearly defined physical and biological traits that delineate male and female. No amount of woke, chemicals or pandering to the groomer crowd will change mammalian biology.

Mammals were never meant to live in houses, have jobs, start wars, enjoy a social structure, believe in imaginary fairies in the sky, etc.

Humans do a whole bunch of things that were never expected of Mammals, what is your point?

 

[Hollie]

And if she can prove actual malpractice, then she's entitled to every penny she'll get.

Just not seeing that case in her rambling filing, though. I'm seeing someone who insisted on treatment and dragged her parents and doctors along with her.



Except, again, no one is doing that. If anything, it's very difficult for teens to get treatment. 300,000 transgender youth, less than 5000 are on hormone therapy. Less than one percent of people who transition want to transition back. of some 1.5 million transgender people in this country, only 11,000 a year are getting bottom surgery.



Mammals were never meant to live in houses, have jobs, start wars, enjoy a social structure, believe in imaginary fairies in the sky, etc.

Humans do a whole bunch of things that were never expected of Mammals, what is your point?

The above was actually comical. You're pressing the notion that a young teenager had such influence over (supposed) medical professionals that they had no choice but to submit to her demands.

Sorry, but the leftist groomers abandoning all pretense of professionalism and ethics had a responsibility to the practice of medicine.

In the grownup world, we understand that youth and puberty have emotional and physiological changes that develop rapidly in pre and early teens. It's up to the grownups to be an understanding, guiding hand.

Your attitude is that teenagers are to make demands and the grownups are to dutifully march to those orders. No. That's why we are now seeing state legislatures ban the kinds of mutilating surgeries and drug doping the left is so anxious to feed children.

If you had managed to pass a 7th grade biology class you would have learned that mammalian biology has nothing to do with indoor plumbing.

Start here: These Eight Traits Separate Mammals From Other Vertebrates

You will find lots of colorful pictures and get a basic understanding of what separates indoor plumbing from, you know, humans and animals and stuff like that.

 

[JoeB131]

The above was actually comical. You're pressing the notion that a young teenager had such influence over (supposed) medical professionals that they had no choice but to submit to her demands.

Um, yeah, even reading her rambling brief you get that impression. Every treatment was predicated by a crisis in her life. Boy gropes her breasts, they slice them off. First doctor doesn't think she's a good candidate for hormone therapy, she goes to another one.

Some people just can't control their kids.

In the grownup world, we understand that youth and puberty have emotional and physiological changes that develop rapidly in pre and early teens. It's up to the grownups to be an understanding, guiding hand.

Really, because frankly, that's not what I am seeing. Every time I see unruly kids in public, whose parents have no idea how to discipline them.

If you had managed to pass a 7th grade biology class you would have learned that mammalian biology has nothing to do with indoor plumbing.

What does that have to do with anything I said about humans being above animals?

 

[HeyNorm]

Um, yeah, even reading her rambling brief you get that impression. Every treatment was predicated by a crisis in her life. Boy gropes her breasts, they slice them off. First doctor doesn't think she's a good candidate for hormone therapy, she goes to another one.

Some people just can't control their kids.



Really, because frankly, that's not what I am seeing. Every time I see unruly kids in public, whose parents have no idea how to discipline them.



What does that have to do with anything I said about humans being above animals?

Therapists and doctors, as well as family members never would think of profits over what’s best for their patients.

Just look at Britaney Spears and Brian Wilson and get a clue.

 

[JoeB131]

Therapists and doctors, as well as family members never would think of profits over what’s best for their patients.

You know, you MIGHT have a point here. We need to take all the profit out of medicine, have single payer health care, get rid of the insurance companies paying execs nine-figure salaries.

NOt sure how that applies here, though. Did her parents pay for all her treatments out of pocket, or did an insurance company look at the doctor's claims and said this surgery that is normally considered "elective" should be covered?

ust look at Britaney Spears and Brian Wilson and get a clue.

Not sure how that applies.

Brittney Spears has a long history of mental illness, and her parents were clearly no help. Not sure how that was her doctor's fault.
Wilson also had a long history of mental illness.

something you often see in creatives.

 

[HeyNorm]

You know, you MIGHT have a point here. We need to take all the profit out of medicine, have single payer health care, get rid of the insurance companies paying execs nine-figure salaries.

NOt sure how that applies here, though. Did her parents pay for all her treatments out of pocket, or did an insurance company look at the doctor's claims and said this surgery that is normally considered "elective" should be covered?



Not sure how that applies.

Brittney Spears has a long history of mental illness, and her parents were clearly no help. Not sure how that was her doctor's fault.
Wilson also had a long history of mental illness.

something you often see in creatives.

And both doctors kept them captives long after the problems abated.

You seriously are demented

 

[Circe]

That's a great point. The photo posted by Joe B. was of a man whose outward appearance was that of a woman. The man might otherwise be a very nice person but the ''...who was once a man'', comment is false.

There are clearly defined physical and biological traits that delineate male and female. No amount of woke, chemicals or pandering to the groomer crowd will change mammalian biology.

Yeah, it's plain fraud.

 

[JoeB131]

And both doctors kept them captives long after the problems abated.

Funny thing about mental illness. It's not something you can turn off.

While I agree that Ms. Spears should have been released from guardianship, it's pretty clear from her social media posts she's not in a good place.

Wilson during his career, fell back into mental illness several times, along with substance abuse.

 

[Hollie]

Um, yeah, even reading her rambling brief you get that impression. Every treatment was predicated by a crisis in her life. Boy gropes her breasts, they slice them off. First doctor doesn't think she's a good candidate for hormone therapy, she goes to another one.

Some people just can't control their kids.



Really, because frankly, that's not what I am seeing. Every time I see unruly kids in public, whose parents have no idea how to discipline them.



What does that have to do with anything I said about humans being above animals?

Um, yeah. Leftist groomers had no problem defying ethical standards of care in order to press their groomer ideology. The fact is, there is a great deal of literature that defends the position there is no good child candidate for doping / grooming therapy. The rush to dope / mutilate / groom children is a rush driven by a clearly defined leftist ideology. It's no secret that the state legislatures looking for "trans sanctuary" status are leftist controlled.

Some parents enable the hack doctors who dope / groom their children.

That some parents being horrible parents in no way excuses a medical professional from ignoring an ethical standard of care.

So much of leftist ideology is based in the endless appeal to victimhood. Their every decision is worse than the impulsive choices of the children they have abandoned to the woke mob. That mob displays a complete abandonment of any effort to accept responsibility for their actions. They're literally less equipped for responsible decision-making than their hormone-fueled teens.

 

[JoeB131]

The fact is, there is a great deal of literature that defends the position there is no good child candidate for doping / grooming therapy.

According to whom? Transphobes and Christians?

So much of leftist ideology is based in the endless appeal to victimhood. Their every decision is worse than the impulsive choices of the children they have abandoned to the woke mob. That mob displays a complete abandonment of any effort to accept responsibility for their actions. They're literally less equipped for responsible decision-making than their hormone-fueled teens.

Look, it seems the only person who has a hangup is you. Thousands of people have undergone transgender therapy, and after all your whining, you found one damaged person who was happy someone was paying attention to her.

Weak sauce.

 

[Hollie]

According to whom? Transphobes and Christians?



Look, it seems the only person who has a hangup is you. Thousands of people have undergone transgender therapy, and after all your whining, you found one damaged person who was happy someone was paying attention to her.

Weak sauce.

Here's one study.

The Lies and Dangers of Efforts to Change Sexual Orientation or…

"Reparative" or "conversion" therapy is a dangerous practice that targets LGBTQ youth and seeks to change their sexual or gender identities.

www.hrc.org

Perhaps you can identify a source for the positive effects of heart disease, double mastectomies, osteoporosis, etc.


Um, yeah. You defend transing, grooming and doping of teenagers. i get it.

How convenient you aren't left to deal with the damage done when a teenager matures and realizes their permanent disfigurement was the result of a medical cabal that saw mutilating surgeries as a for-profit industry.

 

[JoeB131]

Here's one study.

The Lies and Dangers of Efforts to Change Sexual Orientation or…

"Reparative" or "conversion" therapy is a dangerous practice that targets LGBTQ youth and seeks to change their sexual or gender identities.

www.hrc.org

Perhaps you can identify a source for the positive effects of heart disease, double mastectomies, osteoporosis, etc.

Did you actually READ the article you linked to? It's an article condemning pray away the gay therapy.


Here, I'll give you the good part.

So-called “conversion therapy,” sometimes known as “reparative therapy,” is a range of dangerous and discredited practices that falsely claim to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity or expression. Such practices have been rejected by every mainstream medical and mental health organization for decades, but due to continuing discrimination and societal bias against LGBTQ people, some practitioners continue to conduct conversion therapy. Minors are especially vulnerable, and conversion therapy can lead to depression, anxiety, drug use, homelessness, and suicide.

Some right-wing religious groups promote the concept that an individual can change their sexual orientation or gender identity, either through prayer or other religious efforts, or through so-called "reparative" or "conversion" therapy. The research on such efforts has disproven their efficacy, and also has indicated that they are affirmatively harmful. Beyond studies focused solely on reparative therapy, broader research clearly demonstrates the significant harm that societal prejudice and family rejection has on lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) people, particularly youth. Furthermore, there is significant anecdotal evidence of harm to LGBTQ people resulting from attempts to change their sexual orientation and gender identity. Based on this body of evidence, every major medical and mental health organization in the United States has issued a statement condemning the use of conversion therapy.

 

[Hollie]

Did you actually READ the article you linked to? It's an article condemning pray away the gay therapy.


Here, I'll give you the good part.

So-called “conversion therapy,” sometimes known as “reparative therapy,” is a range of dangerous and discredited practices that falsely claim to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity or expression. Such practices have been rejected by every mainstream medical and mental health organization for decades, but due to continuing discrimination and societal bias against LGBTQ people, some practitioners continue to conduct conversion therapy. Minors are especially vulnerable, and conversion therapy can lead to depression, anxiety, drug use, homelessness, and suicide.

Some right-wing religious groups promote the concept that an individual can change their sexual orientation or gender identity, either through prayer or other religious efforts, or through so-called "reparative" or "conversion" therapy. The research on such efforts has disproven their efficacy, and also has indicated that they are affirmatively harmful. Beyond studies focused solely on reparative therapy, broader research clearly demonstrates the significant harm that societal prejudice and family rejection has on lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) people, particularly youth. Furthermore, there is significant anecdotal evidence of harm to LGBTQ people resulting from attempts to change their sexual orientation and gender identity. Based on this body of evidence, every major medical and mental health organization in the United States has issued a statement condemning the use of conversion therapy.

I guess you missed the part about, ''The Lies and Dangers of Efforts to Change Sexual Orientation or Gender Identity''.



Don't go away mad, but leftist groomers using coercive tactics such as tranny story time hosted by convicted child molesters, drugs and mutilating surgeries is a disaster.