Kid gets body slammed by congressional candidate

[22lcidw]

Greg Gianforte body slammed an adult and was convicted of assault.
This minor boy and the young girl Keller kicked need to sue.
Republicans are THUGS.

You must not live in the city where the Prog children are out in full bloom. Children in general who show disrespect to an adult are the guilty. To many times they get no punishment.

 

[BS Filter]

Pushing a young teen girl off the curb out into street traffic and body slamming a little kid are a little beyond the pale. The dumb ass kids rattled the adults into a really messy incident. Betcha he doesn't get elected

These kids, like so many these days, need to learn not to start fights they can’t or won’t win. The main way to learn that lesson is getting their ass kicked. Lesson learned.

It is usually learned at the kid vs kid level. I do believe, that some kids foolishly count on the knowledge of the laws regarding adults vs children working to the kids advantage, how video imagery works in the public mind and use it to false advantage. If the kid had been 18, a little bigger and the candidate had punched him out, breaking his jaw, everybody would be clapping, cheering and it would boost the candidate's image. That just is not the case.

So adults are supposed to stand idly by and allow the children to take the signs and mangle them. Then if a kid punches an adult he has to stand there and take it.

Dang, dude! This really bothers you. It is situational dealing with kid in public or how it will appear and indeed what you can expect to get away with. I'm certainly no pacifist. When in maintenance for small hospital that put in a psych ward, was doubling a security (they were too cheap to hire trained personnel) had a 15 year old grab a young nurse, break a beaker and hold her threatening. They called me. Was able to distract and jerk the girl away. He was on speed, started threatening me. I wasn't that much bigger and having no intention of trying to disarm, grabbed the paddles of a shock cart and flipped the switch, charging saying come on ya little shit, this will stop your heart, drop it and get back in your room or your through. He had a change of heart. Cops arrived and took him somewhere else. The young nurse was grateful. The hospital administrator, not so much and I was almost fired. I quit a month later, taking a supervisory job where I handled daily contract employees slinging meat in a freezer warehouse, paying off my alcoholics, druggies and ex-cons at in cash nightly one at a time with a cash box and a loaded .38 on the desk. A much better situation for personal self defense without ambiguity of youth involvement.

Nice anecdotal information. You still haven't answered my post.

 

[Nosmo King]

Stupid kid tries to steal shit, stupid kid gets caught, stupid kid gets body slammed.

The operative word is "kid".

We can accurately describe someone aged 14 years as a kid. How would you accurately describe an adult who body slams a kid? The term "Trumpian" might suffice.

A lack of maturity applies to both.

This is where those 14yrs are heading... think that is good for them? A body slam might prevent this insanity.

Removing maturity is the solution to the problem?

I'm glad I'm old and won't have to live in the future society in which lack of moral judgement prevails.

Aww, the beta male is upset!! That kid got exactly what he deserved, knocked on his skinny ass. He will think twice before he tries that shit again.

Cretin

 

[OKTexas]

The kids were idiots, but he was a grown man running for office. Serious lack of judgement and self control there. If he was a 6'2" 250lb. employee seen on video body slamming a 14 year old kid, he would probably be job hunting if he were salary.

Actions have consequences, it's obvious these kids weren't taught that. Well they got a lesson, didn't they, and they deserved it.

.

 

[White 6]

Pushing a young teen girl off the curb out into street traffic and body slamming a little kid are a little beyond the pale. The dumb ass kids rattled the adults into a really messy incident. Betcha he doesn't get elected

These kids, like so many these days, need to learn not to start fights they can’t or won’t win. The main way to learn that lesson is getting their ass kicked. Lesson learned.

It is usually learned at the kid vs kid level. I do believe, that some kids foolishly count on the knowledge of the laws regarding adults vs children working to the kids advantage, how video imagery works in the public mind and use it to false advantage. If the kid had been 18, a little bigger and the candidate had punched him out, breaking his jaw, everybody would be clapping, cheering and it would boost the candidate's image. That just is not the case.

So adults are supposed to stand idly by and allow the children to take the signs and mangle them. Then if a kid punches an adult he has to stand there and take it.

Dang, dude! This really bothers you. It is situational dealing with kid in public or how it will appear and indeed what you can expect to get away with. I'm certainly no pacifist. When in maintenance for small hospital that put in a psych ward, was doubling a security (they were too cheap to hire trained personnel) had a 15 year old grab a young nurse, break a beaker and hold her threatening. They called me. Was able to distract and jerk the girl away. He was on speed, started threatening me. I wasn't that much bigger and having no intention of trying to disarm, grabbed the paddles of a shock cart and flipped the switch, charging saying come on ya little shit, this will stop your heart, drop it and get back in your room or your through. He had a change of heart. Cops arrived and took him somewhere else. The young nurse was grateful. The hospital administrator, not so much and I was almost fired. I quit a month later, taking a supervisory job where I handled daily contract employees slinging meat in a freezer warehouse, paying off my alcoholics, druggies and ex-cons at in cash nightly one at a time with a cash box and a loaded .38 on the desk. A much better situation for personal self defense without ambiguity of youth involvement.

Nice anecdotal information. You still haven't answered my post.

You'll be alright. After all, this is just an internet message board, full of sound and fury, but often signifying nothing, except to the slightly unhinged, who by in large are probably mostly, pretty normal humans in person of every political stripe in the land.

 

[BS Filter]

Pushing a young teen girl off the curb out into street traffic and body slamming a little kid are a little beyond the pale. The dumb ass kids rattled the adults into a really messy incident. Betcha he doesn't get elected

These kids, like so many these days, need to learn not to start fights they can’t or won’t win. The main way to learn that lesson is getting their ass kicked. Lesson learned.

It is usually learned at the kid vs kid level. I do believe, that some kids foolishly count on the knowledge of the laws regarding adults vs children working to the kids advantage, how video imagery works in the public mind and use it to false advantage. If the kid had been 18, a little bigger and the candidate had punched him out, breaking his jaw, everybody would be clapping, cheering and it would boost the candidate's image. That just is not the case.

So adults are supposed to stand idly by and allow the children to take the signs and mangle them. Then if a kid punches an adult he has to stand there and take it.

Dang, dude! This really bothers you. It is situational dealing with kid in public or how it will appear and indeed what you can expect to get away with. I'm certainly no pacifist. When in maintenance for small hospital that put in a psych ward, was doubling a security (they were too cheap to hire trained personnel) had a 15 year old grab a young nurse, break a beaker and hold her threatening. They called me. Was able to distract and jerk the girl away. He was on speed, started threatening me. I wasn't that much bigger and having no intention of trying to disarm, grabbed the paddles of a shock cart and flipped the switch, charging saying come on ya little shit, this will stop your heart, drop it and get back in your room or your through. He had a change of heart. Cops arrived and took him somewhere else. The young nurse was grateful. The hospital administrator, not so much and I was almost fired. I quit a month later, taking a supervisory job where I handled daily contract employees slinging meat in a freezer warehouse, paying off my alcoholics, druggies and ex-cons at in cash nightly one at a time with a cash box and a loaded .38 on the desk. A much better situation for personal self defense without ambiguity of youth involvement.

Nice anecdotal information. You still haven't answered my post.

You'll be alright. After all, this is just an internet message board, full of sound and fury, but often signifying nothing, except to the slightly unhinged, who by in large are probably mostly, pretty normal humans in person of every political stripe in the land.

Nice deflection. So your solution is to allow the brats to have their way.

 

[Orangecat]

Meh. If parents don't raise their kids right, other adults will administer discipline. Stupid people usually get what's coming to them, even if they're kids.

 

[White 6]

Pushing a young teen girl off the curb out into street traffic and body slamming a little kid are a little beyond the pale. The dumb ass kids rattled the adults into a really messy incident. Betcha he doesn't get elected

These kids, like so many these days, need to learn not to start fights they can’t or won’t win. The main way to learn that lesson is getting their ass kicked. Lesson learned.

It is usually learned at the kid vs kid level. I do believe, that some kids foolishly count on the knowledge of the laws regarding adults vs children working to the kids advantage, how video imagery works in the public mind and use it to false advantage. If the kid had been 18, a little bigger and the candidate had punched him out, breaking his jaw, everybody would be clapping, cheering and it would boost the candidate's image. That just is not the case.

So adults are supposed to stand idly by and allow the children to take the signs and mangle them. Then if a kid punches an adult he has to stand there and take it.

Dang, dude! This really bothers you. It is situational dealing with kid in public or how it will appear and indeed what you can expect to get away with. I'm certainly no pacifist. When in maintenance for small hospital that put in a psych ward, was doubling a security (they were too cheap to hire trained personnel) had a 15 year old grab a young nurse, break a beaker and hold her threatening. They called me. Was able to distract and jerk the girl away. He was on speed, started threatening me. I wasn't that much bigger and having no intention of trying to disarm, grabbed the paddles of a shock cart and flipped the switch, charging saying come on ya little shit, this will stop your heart, drop it and get back in your room or your through. He had a change of heart. Cops arrived and took him somewhere else. The young nurse was grateful. The hospital administrator, not so much and I was almost fired. I quit a month later, taking a supervisory job where I handled daily contract employees slinging meat in a freezer warehouse, paying off my alcoholics, druggies and ex-cons at in cash nightly one at a time with a cash box and a loaded .38 on the desk. A much better situation for personal self defense without ambiguity of youth involvement.

Nice anecdotal information. You still haven't answered my post.

You'll be alright. After all, this is just an internet message board, full of sound and fury, but often signifying nothing, except to the slightly unhinged, who by in large are probably mostly, pretty normal humans in person of every political stripe in the land.

Nice deflection. So your solution is to allow the brats to have their way.

Thanks. I try. No. It is strictly situation and like most things does not lend itself to one solution with an averagely universal outcome, but in times like these, I would make some attempt to avoid becoming a twitter, fakebook or YouTube star.

 

[BS Filter]

Pushing a young teen girl off the curb out into street traffic and body slamming a little kid are a little beyond the pale. The dumb ass kids rattled the adults into a really messy incident. Betcha he doesn't get elected

These kids, like so many these days, need to learn not to start fights they can’t or won’t win. The main way to learn that lesson is getting their ass kicked. Lesson learned.

It is usually learned at the kid vs kid level. I do believe, that some kids foolishly count on the knowledge of the laws regarding adults vs children working to the kids advantage, how video imagery works in the public mind and use it to false advantage. If the kid had been 18, a little bigger and the candidate had punched him out, breaking his jaw, everybody would be clapping, cheering and it would boost the candidate's image. That just is not the case.

So adults are supposed to stand idly by and allow the children to take the signs and mangle them. Then if a kid punches an adult he has to stand there and take it.

Dang, dude! This really bothers you. It is situational dealing with kid in public or how it will appear and indeed what you can expect to get away with. I'm certainly no pacifist. When in maintenance for small hospital that put in a psych ward, was doubling a security (they were too cheap to hire trained personnel) had a 15 year old grab a young nurse, break a beaker and hold her threatening. They called me. Was able to distract and jerk the girl away. He was on speed, started threatening me. I wasn't that much bigger and having no intention of trying to disarm, grabbed the paddles of a shock cart and flipped the switch, charging saying come on ya little shit, this will stop your heart, drop it and get back in your room or your through. He had a change of heart. Cops arrived and took him somewhere else. The young nurse was grateful. The hospital administrator, not so much and I was almost fired. I quit a month later, taking a supervisory job where I handled daily contract employees slinging meat in a freezer warehouse, paying off my alcoholics, druggies and ex-cons at in cash nightly one at a time with a cash box and a loaded .38 on the desk. A much better situation for personal self defense without ambiguity of youth involvement.

Nice anecdotal information. You still haven't answered my post.

You'll be alright. After all, this is just an internet message board, full of sound and fury, but often signifying nothing, except to the slightly unhinged, who by in large are probably mostly, pretty normal humans in person of every political stripe in the land.

Nice deflection. So your solution is to allow the brats to have their way.

Thanks. I try. No. It is strictly situation and like most things does not lend itself to one solution with an averagely universal outcome, but in times like these, I would make some attempt to avoid becoming a twitter, fakebook or YouTube star.

Etc, etc.

 

[kaz]

The kids were idiots, but he was a grown man running for office. Serious lack of judgement and self control there. If he was a 6'2" 250lb. employee seen on video body slamming a 14 year old kid, he would probably be job hunting if he were salary.

Funny, I never saw this comment from you about all the Democrat macho men who intimidated kids for wearing MAGA hats. Sandmann, the guy who dumped the soda on the kid, the old man who just went to the local store. These and many more have been threads on this site, I would remember a leftist like you speaking up against it. Didn't happen.

Suddenly, a standard emerges for you. A standard that will fade away when we flip parties

Were they candidates for office flinging dumb ass kids like a rag doll? I do not think so. You are confusing the issue. Not whether the kids were right. They were not. Not whether other kids whipping their ass, for the offenses would have illicit-ed the same comments from me. They wouldn't. I would probably laughed thinking it funny. It sucks to be a grown up sometimes and having to act responsibly in the face of adversity, but it does not change the fact that we have a different standard for adult, especially adults aspiring to a leadership position. You know. I know it.

So you're OK with Democrats attacking kids, but you're not OK with Republicans running for office.

Yes, sounds right

Not OK with anybody attacking kids, including Democrats. You need to get some better paint on that brush. It does not stick to level headed conservatives.

Your response to Democrats attacking kids was they aren't running for office as if that makes it OK

Nothing going on in that video was OK on how the situation was started or finished. If you want to support the guy, go ahead. Will do you nor him any good. What looks cool on "Jackass" is not what is acceptable for adults in the real world. I did not make the rules, or set the standards for adults in public and how imagery is perceived. It is what it is. You don't have to like it, but would be well advised to remember it, when considering actions with kids in public, especially if three times their size.

Typical Democrat deflection. I commented on your lack of comment on Democrats intimidating children and you said it's fine, they weren't running for office. Now you say "adults," but you still only are against Republicans

What a rant. Get a life. The adult/kid thing has always been the topic, not Dems or Reps. You go on out in public and do as you please, but if I were you, I would try to stay out of trouble and remember, there is always cellphone video, no matter how it makes you look.

You care about Republicans, you don't care when Democrats intimidate and attack kids. You were totally silent of the old ass who got in Sandmann's face. You were silent about the ass who dumped the soda on the kid and stole his hate. It's now how you look, it's what you are

 

[Dick Foster]

The kids were idiots, but he was a grown man running for office. Serious lack of judgement and self control there. If he was a 6'2" 250lb. employee seen on video body slamming a 14 year old kid, he would probably be job hunting if he were salary.

He doesn't know the age of those kids. They were the ones who were violent... a man can protect himself and his property. When does the violence from the left end, when we stand up for ourselves.

Stealing a sign is violent??

It's theft stupid. At what point does theft become wrong or does it ever in your twisted fucked up mind?

 

[Ken Mac]

That guy was a complete idiot. Dumbassery doesn't have a political affiliation.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

As an experiment I asked each of our children about this and asked them what their father and I's reaction would be..... every single one stated they'd be grounded for at least a month, except the one year old she just wanted a cookie.

Teach them well.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

The kids were idiots, but he was a grown man running for office. Serious lack of judgement and self control there. If he was a 6'2" 250lb. employee seen on video body slamming a 14 year old kid, he would probably be job hunting if he were salary.

He doesn't know the age of those kids. They were the ones who were violent... a man can protect himself and his property. When does the violence from the left end, when we stand up for ourselves.

Pushing a young teen girl off the curb out into street traffic and body slamming a little kid are a little beyond the pale. The dumb ass kids rattled the adults into a really messy incident. Betcha he doesn't get elected.

Grown adults who were raised with manners, decorum, and respect for others are caught off-guard by the complete lack of that in many youngsters today; they are more akin to wild dogs, than decent young people.
That is a difficult adjustment for people who are actually civilized to make, especially in the moment. If you have never seen a rabid dog, you might mistake it for Fluffy until it's too late, and you've already been bitten.

And this is where it has led us... in American streets across the nation...

Good move on his part. He kept his cool and only made twitter instead of an arraignment.

Shouldn't you be more concerned about the fact that a large group of people thought it was okay to harass, taunt and menace an armed man who was walking away?
Does their willingness to engage in behavior that would get them shot down in the streets if the man actually was what they were accusing him of being, not concern you?

Because that sort of toxic behavior, and sense of entitlement to abuse others, coupled with an irrational belief in no consequences, seems like a recipe for a lot of blood getting spilled, to me.

Leftists cannot think beyond how they feel at any given moment.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

The kids were idiots, but he was a grown man running for office. Serious lack of judgement and self control there. If he was a 6'2" 250lb. employee seen on video body slamming a 14 year old kid, he would probably be job hunting if he were salary.

He doesn't know the age of those kids. They were the ones who were violent... a man can protect himself and his property. When does the violence from the left end, when we stand up for ourselves.

Pushing a young teen girl off the curb out into street traffic and body slamming a little kid are a little beyond the pale. The dumb ass kids rattled the adults into a really messy incident. Betcha he doesn't get elected.

Grown adults who were raised with manners, decorum, and respect for others are caught off-guard by the complete lack of that in many youngsters today; they are more akin to wild dogs, than decent young people.
That is a difficult adjustment for people who are actually civilized to make, especially in the moment. If you have never seen a rabid dog, you might mistake it for Fluffy until it's too late, and you've already been bitten.

And this is where it has led us... in American streets across the nation...

Good move on his part. He kept his cool and only made twitter instead of an arraignment.

Shouldn't you be more concerned about the fact that a large group of people thought it was okay to harass, taunt and menace an armed man who was walking away?
Does their willingness to engage in behavior that would get them shot down in the streets if the man actually was what they were accusing him of being, not concern you?

Because that sort of toxic behavior, and sense of entitlement to abuse others, coupled with an irrational belief in no consequences, seems like a recipe for a lot of blood getting spilled, to me.

It doesn't seem too bright, but you never know how many people are armed, concealed at these street demonstrations. I personally am not an open carry guy. Those people are trying to make a point or make an impression. Nobody needs to see my hardware until I need it. The lone open carry guy is always a target.

Also a deterrent. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[White 6]

Pushing a young teen girl off the curb out into street traffic and body slamming a little kid are a little beyond the pale. The dumb ass kids rattled the adults into a really messy incident. Betcha he doesn't get elected

These kids, like so many these days, need to learn not to start fights they can’t or won’t win. The main way to learn that lesson is getting their ass kicked. Lesson learned.

It is usually learned at the kid vs kid level. I do believe, that some kids foolishly count on the knowledge of the laws regarding adults vs children working to the kids advantage, how video imagery works in the public mind and use it to false advantage. If the kid had been 18, a little bigger and the candidate had punched him out, breaking his jaw, everybody would be clapping, cheering and it would boost the candidate's image. That just is not the case.

So adults are supposed to stand idly by and allow the children to take the signs and mangle them. Then if a kid punches an adult he has to stand there and take it.

Dang, dude! This really bothers you. It is situational dealing with kid in public or how it will appear and indeed what you can expect to get away with. I'm certainly no pacifist. When in maintenance for small hospital that put in a psych ward, was doubling a security (they were too cheap to hire trained personnel) had a 15 year old grab a young nurse, break a beaker and hold her threatening. They called me. Was able to distract and jerk the girl away. He was on speed, started threatening me. I wasn't that much bigger and having no intention of trying to disarm, grabbed the paddles of a shock cart and flipped the switch, charging saying come on ya little shit, this will stop your heart, drop it and get back in your room or your through. He had a change of heart. Cops arrived and took him somewhere else. The young nurse was grateful. The hospital administrator, not so much and I was almost fired. I quit a month later, taking a supervisory job where I handled daily contract employees slinging meat in a freezer warehouse, paying off my alcoholics, druggies and ex-cons at in cash nightly one at a time with a cash box and a loaded .38 on the desk. A much better situation for personal self defense without ambiguity of youth involvement.

Nice anecdotal information. You still haven't answered my post.

You'll be alright. After all, this is just an internet message board, full of sound and fury, but often signifying nothing, except to the slightly unhinged, who by in large are probably mostly, pretty normal humans in person of every political stripe in the land.

Nice deflection. So your solution is to allow the brats to have their way.

Thanks. I try. No. It is strictly situation and like most things does not lend itself to one solution with an averagely universal outcome, but in times like these, I would make some attempt to avoid becoming a twitter, fakebook or YouTube star.

Etc, etc.

If you expected something profound, you got the wrong guy. Most of the time, I don't even try.

 

[Unkotare]

As an experiment I asked each of our children about this and asked them what their father and I's reaction would be..... every single one stated they'd be grounded for at least a month, except the one year old she just wanted a cookie.

Did you bodyslam them?

 

[BS Filter]

Pushing a young teen girl off the curb out into street traffic and body slamming a little kid are a little beyond the pale. The dumb ass kids rattled the adults into a really messy incident. Betcha he doesn't get elected

These kids, like so many these days, need to learn not to start fights they can’t or won’t win. The main way to learn that lesson is getting their ass kicked. Lesson learned.

It is usually learned at the kid vs kid level. I do believe, that some kids foolishly count on the knowledge of the laws regarding adults vs children working to the kids advantage, how video imagery works in the public mind and use it to false advantage. If the kid had been 18, a little bigger and the candidate had punched him out, breaking his jaw, everybody would be clapping, cheering and it would boost the candidate's image. That just is not the case.

So adults are supposed to stand idly by and allow the children to take the signs and mangle them. Then if a kid punches an adult he has to stand there and take it.

Dang, dude! This really bothers you. It is situational dealing with kid in public or how it will appear and indeed what you can expect to get away with. I'm certainly no pacifist. When in maintenance for small hospital that put in a psych ward, was doubling a security (they were too cheap to hire trained personnel) had a 15 year old grab a young nurse, break a beaker and hold her threatening. They called me. Was able to distract and jerk the girl away. He was on speed, started threatening me. I wasn't that much bigger and having no intention of trying to disarm, grabbed the paddles of a shock cart and flipped the switch, charging saying come on ya little shit, this will stop your heart, drop it and get back in your room or your through. He had a change of heart. Cops arrived and took him somewhere else. The young nurse was grateful. The hospital administrator, not so much and I was almost fired. I quit a month later, taking a supervisory job where I handled daily contract employees slinging meat in a freezer warehouse, paying off my alcoholics, druggies and ex-cons at in cash nightly one at a time with a cash box and a loaded .38 on the desk. A much better situation for personal self defense without ambiguity of youth involvement.

Nice anecdotal information. You still haven't answered my post.

You'll be alright. After all, this is just an internet message board, full of sound and fury, but often signifying nothing, except to the slightly unhinged, who by in large are probably mostly, pretty normal humans in person of every political stripe in the land.

Nice deflection. So your solution is to allow the brats to have their way.

Thanks. I try. No. It is strictly situation and like most things does not lend itself to one solution with an averagely universal outcome, but in times like these, I would make some attempt to avoid becoming a twitter, fakebook or YouTube star.

Etc, etc.

If you expected something profound, you got the wrong guy. Most of the time, I don't even try.

Yet, you're eager to criticize people for defending themselves and their property, but you can't find the courage to criticize the behavior of punks and irresponsible actions of their parents.

 

[Issa]

If the parents would have spanked these little snot nosed assholes and taught them how to act the rest of us wouldn’t have too.

If that was in my neighborhood I would've fucked the fat **** up for slamming a kid.

If the parents won't discipline their brats, you can bet your ass that eventually someone else will, either someone tougher or else the prison system.

The fat **** is running for office and he couldn't control his anger and body slammed a kid a ******* kid who happens to be quarter his size.

Who the **** told that kid he could do that and get away with it? I guess he learned a lesson his scrawny ass can’t do whatever he wants to without retaliation. Good lesson for him.

Typical bully you are....to find it ok an big adult man to body slam a 14 years old.
I'm with disciplining the kid but not killing him.

Kid had no injury and cops decided not to pursue any legal action. So how bad was it really?

Still a coward. Since it is ok body slam kids ? But again you support a bully and a ***** grabber.

 

[White 6]

Pushing a young teen girl off the curb out into street traffic and body slamming a little kid are a little beyond the pale. The dumb ass kids rattled the adults into a really messy incident. Betcha he doesn't get elected

These kids, like so many these days, need to learn not to start fights they can’t or won’t win. The main way to learn that lesson is getting their ass kicked. Lesson learned.

It is usually learned at the kid vs kid level. I do believe, that some kids foolishly count on the knowledge of the laws regarding adults vs children working to the kids advantage, how video imagery works in the public mind and use it to false advantage. If the kid had been 18, a little bigger and the candidate had punched him out, breaking his jaw, everybody would be clapping, cheering and it would boost the candidate's image. That just is not the case.

So adults are supposed to stand idly by and allow the children to take the signs and mangle them. Then if a kid punches an adult he has to stand there and take it.

Dang, dude! This really bothers you. It is situational dealing with kid in public or how it will appear and indeed what you can expect to get away with. I'm certainly no pacifist. When in maintenance for small hospital that put in a psych ward, was doubling a security (they were too cheap to hire trained personnel) had a 15 year old grab a young nurse, break a beaker and hold her threatening. They called me. Was able to distract and jerk the girl away. He was on speed, started threatening me. I wasn't that much bigger and having no intention of trying to disarm, grabbed the paddles of a shock cart and flipped the switch, charging saying come on ya little shit, this will stop your heart, drop it and get back in your room or your through. He had a change of heart. Cops arrived and took him somewhere else. The young nurse was grateful. The hospital administrator, not so much and I was almost fired. I quit a month later, taking a supervisory job where I handled daily contract employees slinging meat in a freezer warehouse, paying off my alcoholics, druggies and ex-cons at in cash nightly one at a time with a cash box and a loaded .38 on the desk. A much better situation for personal self defense without ambiguity of youth involvement.

Nice anecdotal information. You still haven't answered my post.

You'll be alright. After all, this is just an internet message board, full of sound and fury, but often signifying nothing, except to the slightly unhinged, who by in large are probably mostly, pretty normal humans in person of every political stripe in the land.

Nice deflection. So your solution is to allow the brats to have their way.

Thanks. I try. No. It is strictly situation and like most things does not lend itself to one solution with an averagely universal outcome, but in times like these, I would make some attempt to avoid becoming a twitter, fakebook or YouTube star.

Etc, etc.

If you expected something profound, you got the wrong guy. Most of the time, I don't even try.

Yet, you're eager to criticize people for defending themselves and their property, but you can't find the courage to criticize the behavior of punks and irresponsible actions of their parents.

I stand ready to defend my property, but probably will not make newspapers or twitter feed doing it. Get over it. The kids were dead wrong in what they did, but does not make up for the supposed adult doing what he did. Jeesh, you're like a scratch LP album unable to move past that one scratch and at the same time wanting to ascribe other meanings to the noise it caused.