Kasich commits political suicide

[bedowin62]

AND the examples YOU gave of support are in many cases RED HERRING THEMSELVES, since they dont show support for what is ACTUALLY being proposes as "solutions" or even what is actually being polled. or talked about by Kasich

FOR EXAMPLE, nobody actually wants to abolish Medicare and leave nothing in it's place

NOW THAT is a red herring


ur just a joke dude

kasich is desperate

why dont you take him in your party?????

 

[bedowin62]

you losers start crying if you cant frame every debate in your own terms.

if kasich wants to cry, ala bush crying the other day, about what he is sick of, and what he thinks isnt a winning ideal for Republicans, then let's discuss why the people that ARE getting traction are getting that traction

is that too much to ask??????

 

[Wry Catcher]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

I think it was stand up stuff and I applaud him for doing what he did. I have a lot more respect for him now. The good thing about The Donald, he's making everybody come clean.

But now that he questions or even thinks too hard about hard right policy....he's a communist.

The fringe right has a binary reasoning scheme. Either you accept ONLY what they believe. Or you're a communist.

So much for the big tent.

The libtard dictionary of synonyms: Fringe right = Traditional conservative platforms.

So 'traditional conservative platforms' exclude most republicans, all moderates and all liberals?

Please... listen to yourself and try not to sound too stupid.

TRADITIONALLY, the republican base is CONSERVATIVE... not moderate, and certainly not LIBERAL. Now the TRUE, TRADITIONAL, CONSERVATIVE BASE of the republican party is FED UP with this moderate horse crap, which basically means DEM LITE. They want the republican party to GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms, and that's what Trump, Carson and Cruz are doing, and that's why they're KILLING their "moderate" presidential competition.

What part about that are you missing? You been on a long vacation on another planet or something, or do you just enjoy regurgitating leftist BS?

The Party of Lincoln, TR and IKE was not conservative, it became so when the civil rights movement rose up and said enough! Nixon was progressive, compared to the Crazy Right Wing which exists today as the Republican party.

 

[bedowin62]

I think it was stand up stuff and I applaud him for doing what he did. I have a lot more respect for him now. The good thing about The Donald, he's making everybody come clean.

But now that he questions or even thinks too hard about hard right policy....he's a communist.

The fringe right has a binary reasoning scheme. Either you accept ONLY what they believe. Or you're a communist.

So much for the big tent.

The libtard dictionary of synonyms: Fringe right = Traditional conservative platforms.

So 'traditional conservative platforms' exclude most republicans, all moderates and all liberals?

Please... listen to yourself and try not to sound too stupid.

TRADITIONALLY, the republican base is CONSERVATIVE... not moderate, and certainly not LIBERAL. Now the TRUE, TRADITIONAL, CONSERVATIVE BASE of the republican party is FED UP with this moderate horse crap, which basically means DEM LITE. They want the republican party to GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms, and that's what Trump, Carson and Cruz are doing, and that's why they're KILLING their "moderate" presidential competition.

What part about that are you missing? You been on a long vacation on another planet or something, or do you just enjoy regurgitating leftist BS?

THANKS for the history lesson. no maybe you can get to making a case for your own Jackass Party candidates???
kasich is crying and trying to make a stir, he's two steps away from irrelevance
The Party of Lincoln, TR and IKE was not conservative, it became so when the civil rights movement rose up and said enough! Nixon was progressive, compared to the Crazy Right Wing which exists today as the Republican party.

 

[NLT]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

no wonder you like him, he is a liberal

 

[BluesLegend]

Translation: you won't acknowledge the existence of any evidence that contradicts what you choose to believe.

And its that willful blindness that is the beating heart of what is wrong with the conservative movement.

You may want to look up the words "lies" and "propaganda" in the dictionary.

You might want to look up 'Cherry Picking' and 'Confirmation Bias'. As the credibility of evidence isn't based on whether or not it agrees with you.

Yet you ignore anything, from any source....that doesn't agree with you. That's irrational.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!

the "confirmation bias" talking point is one of my favorite left-wing idiot memes!!
it is exactly how the HYPOCRITES on the Left arrive at the majority of the "conslusions" they arrive at.

Republicans must be "racist" many on the Left say because the Left wants to think they are, accuses them of being, and point to merely their make-up, not any actual actions of Republicans, as "proof" of what they were ALREADY BIASED IN THINKING

The punch line is how frequently the word "projection" applies to liberals, claiming Republicans are racist without any example WHILE ignoring the video documented examples of liberals being racist. lol

If you discuss liberal behavior for more than a few minutes you will break out in laughter

Odd, you won't discuss any of the specific topics raised, Kasich, the extreme nature of the current GOP fringe, the incompatibility of fringe right positions with the general public, support for citizenship, minimum wage increases.....any of it.

If you were merely going to abandon your every claim, why bother disagreeing in the first place?

LMAO! Look the "extreme nature of the current GOP fringe" and the "incompatibility of fringe right positions" are fabrications you made up in your head they are not topics. That's some funny shit thanks for the hearty laugh.

As for Kasich I clearly called him a traitor and suggested he run for office in Mexico.

 

[BluesLegend]

why do losers incapable of intellectual honesty expect anything in response to their false narratives?

when did i say they were never legitimate health concerns??

A narrative disagreeing with your personal opinion doesn't make it false. You merely ignore anything that doesn't ape exactly what you believe.

There's a difference. And that difference is the evidence. For example, you ignore the fact support for a pathway to citizenship enjoys 2 to 1 support, insisting its a 'false narrative'.

But the polling data says otherwise. You ignoring evidence doesn't mean that the evidence disappears. Or its magically 'unreliable'. All you've done is close your eyes.

The world is still here even when you refuse to look at it.

YOU ignore the FACT that YOUR "pathway to citizenship" is REJECTED BY A MAJORITY.

idiots and hypocrites

You aren't 'the majority'. A majority of supports the pathway to citizenship. As the polling data overwhelmingly demonstrates:

You merely imagine that whatever you choose to believe is the majority position. Based on....nothing. Just your belief. And then ignore any evidence that contradicts you. Any source. On any topic. If it contradicts what you want to believe....

.....you ignore it. Watch, I'll make you do it again:

72% confirm there should be a way for illegals to stay legally. Your ilk oppose it.

So you ignore this poll too. And I'll make you do it again...

CBS News/New York Times Poll. Oct. 21-25, 2015. N=1,289 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 4.

"Which comes closest to your view about illegal immigrants who are living in the U.S.? They should be allowed to stay in the U.S. and eventually apply for citizenship. They should be allowed to stay in the U.S. legally, but not be allowed to apply for citizenship. OR, They should be required to leave the U.S?

Stay, apply for citizenship: 58%
Stay, don't apply for citizenship: 11%
Be required to leave: 28%

Immigration

With almost 70% supporting letting them stay, most with a path to citizenship.

So you'll ignore this poll too.

Any poll that contradicts you, you ignore. Any source that contradicts you, you ignore. On any topic.

That's wildly irrational.

Amnesty is too costly

Perhaps. Perhaps not. But the majority of the public still supports a pathway to citizenship, with a super majority supporting allowing them to remain in the US legally. And the fringe right still opposes both.

Again, the fringe right is NOT aligned with the overwhelming majority of Americans on most issues. With Tea Party support at a record low.

No they don't look repeating this nonsense won't make it come true. lol Here's a clue for the lib koolaid drinkers like this poster, if this was true amnesty and a path to citizenship would have already passed congress long ago. The fact is both Dem's and Rep's in congress have opposed this several times. Why? Because they know voters don't want it and they fear the wrath of voters if they sign on. Blacks don't want it, unions don't want it, its about as popular as the chicken pox.

 

[bripat9643]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

I never thought he had a chance. He's a big spending RINO masquerading as a conservative. Nazi Pelosi is more conservative than Kasich.

 

[bripat9643]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

Are you being sarcastic? Those comments and his reasonableness and rational approach is what will make him the most formidable opponent for the democrats. A Kasich-Rubio ticket is the best chance Republicans have to win the Whitehouse. The far right views of most of the rest of the field are not where most Americans are.

Why would anyone vote for a "me-too" Republican like Kasich when they can vote for Hillary and get an undiluted 200 proof liberal?

 

[SwimExpert]

Just another spineless limpy republican who cant even offer solutions other than growing massive govt.

The State of Ohio would beg to disagree with you. Kasich has hands down the best record of being both an effective legislator and effective executive. Kasich is exactly the kind of guy that Republicans demanded was necessary when complaining that Obama was an inexperienced loudmouth. Somehow, many Republicans now are positively titillated over their own loudmouth.

I stand with Kasich. He's what our party needs in the White House. He's what our country needs in the White House.

 

[bripat9643]

Just another spineless limpy republican who cant even offer solutions other than growing massive govt.

The State of Ohio would beg to disagree with you. Kasich has hands down the best record of being both an effective legislator and effective executive. Kasich is exactly the kind of guy that Republicans demanded was necessary when complaining that Obama was an inexperienced loudmouth. Somehow, many Republicans now are positively titillated over their own loudmouth.

I stand with Kasich. He's what our party needs in the White House. He's what our country needs in the White House.

Kasich isn't a conservative. He's an open-borders traitor and a RINO.

 

[Mac1958]

Nazi Pelosi is more conservative than Kasich.

Really?
.

 

[JoeB131]

So Kasich is showing himself to be a sane, rational Republican?

Yup, he's probably done.

Here's the thing. His position is pretty much the same one Ronald Reagan would take. Reagan didn't abolish Medicare and he didn't try to deport millions of undocumented workers.

 

[Rustic]

So Kasich is showing himself to be a sane, rational Republican?

Yup, he's probably done.

Here's the thing. His position is pretty much the same one Ronald Reagan would take. Reagan didn't abolish Medicare and he didn't try to deport millions of undocumented workers.

Na, That was really Dennis kucinich up there on the end getting a wedgie, hence the yelling and talking gibberish...

 

[Wry Catcher]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years. I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

In detail, tell us how you, as a pure conservative would revamp the United States Government, include:

• Tax Policy
• The Fed
• Which Executive Agencies would you eliminate
• The ACA
• Foreign Policy
• The UN
• Campaign Financing
• CJS and Mandatory Sentencing
• SSM Rights
• LGBT Rights
• Immigration
• Positiion on Wealth Inequality
• College and University costs
• Gun Violence
• Far East Policy
• Eastern European Policy
• Climate Change

For a start.

 

[paulitician]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years. I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

In detail, tell us how you, as a pure conservative would revamp the United States Government, include:

• Tax Policy
• The Fed
• Which Executive Agencies would you eliminate
• The ACA
• Foreign Policy
• The UN
• Campaign Financing
• CJS and Mandatory Sentencing
• SSM Rights
• LGBT Rights
• Immigration
• Positiion on Wealth Inequality
• College and University costs
• Gun Violence
• Far East Policy
• Eastern European Policy
• Climate Change

For a start.

The People aren't asking for too much. They just wanna take home more of their paycheck, see a decrease in the massive Debt, and see their border finally secured. Those are things Conservatives should be able to address. Why haven't they?

 

[Skylar]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years. I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

In detail, tell us how you, as a pure conservative would revamp the United States Government, include:

• Tax Policy
• The Fed
• Which Executive Agencies would you eliminate
• The ACA
• Foreign Policy
• The UN
• Campaign Financing
• CJS and Mandatory Sentencing
• SSM Rights
• LGBT Rights
• Immigration
• Positiion on Wealth Inequality
• College and University costs
• Gun Violence
• Far East Policy
• Eastern European Policy
• Climate Change

For a start.

The People aren't asking for too much. They just wanna take home more of their paycheck, see a decrease in the massive Debt, and see their border finally secured. Those are things Conservatives should be able to address. Why haven't they?

The 'Freedom Caucus' isn't 'the people'. They're a fringe even among conservatives. And out of touch on most issues with the rest of Americans.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years. I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

In detail, tell us how you, as a pure conservative would revamp the United States Government, include:

• Tax Policy
• The Fed
• Which Executive Agencies would you eliminate
• The ACA
• Foreign Policy
• The UN
• Campaign Financing
• CJS and Mandatory Sentencing
• SSM Rights
• LGBT Rights
• Immigration
• Positiion on Wealth Inequality
• College and University costs
• Gun Violence
• Far East Policy
• Eastern European Policy
• Climate Change

For a start.

The People aren't asking for too much. They just wanna take home more of their paycheck, see a decrease in the massive Debt, and see their border finally secured. Those are things Conservatives should be able to address. Why haven't they?

The 'Freedom Caucus' isn't 'the people'. They're a fringe even among conservatives. And out of touch on most issues with the rest of Americans.

The Tea Party Caucus changed its name to the Freedom Caucus, simply more evidence that its members are demagogues and charlatans. Dishonest, pitiful and out of touch with reality.

 

[bripat9643]

Sounds like a typical whiny Communist/Progressive. What's happened to the 'Conservative Movement' is that frauds like Bush, Boehner, McCain, McConnell, and Kasich were allowed to hijack it. Is there any real difference between them and Barack Hussein Obama?

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years. I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

In detail, tell us how you, as a pure conservative would revamp the United States Government, include:

• Tax Policy
• The Fed
• Which Executive Agencies would you eliminate
• The ACA
• Foreign Policy
• The UN
• Campaign Financing
• CJS and Mandatory Sentencing
• SSM Rights
• LGBT Rights
• Immigration
• Positiion on Wealth Inequality
• College and University costs
• Gun Violence
• Far East Policy
• Eastern European Policy
• Climate Change

For a start.

The People aren't asking for too much. They just wanna take home more of their paycheck, see a decrease in the massive Debt, and see their border finally secured. Those are things Conservatives should be able to address. Why haven't they?

The 'Freedom Caucus' isn't 'the people'. They're a fringe even among conservatives. And out of touch on most issues with the rest of Americans.

Although the post you responded to didn't mention the Freedom Caucus, they actually reflect the views of most Republicans and plenty of Democrats.

What you're trying to tell us is that people don't want to take home more money, they want to see the debt increase by leaps and bounds, and they approve of illegal immigration and open borders. Only fruit loops support that agenda.

Talk about being "out of touch."

 

[bripat9643]

Wow. So now most republicans are 'communist/progressives'.

How fringe right do you have to be to perceive McCain as a communist? I mean, you're serious.

If your perspective is indicative of the GOP in general, you're fucked. As you're so far to the right that you can't even see the rest of us.

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years. I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

In detail, tell us how you, as a pure conservative would revamp the United States Government, include:

• Tax Policy
• The Fed
• Which Executive Agencies would you eliminate
• The ACA
• Foreign Policy
• The UN
• Campaign Financing
• CJS and Mandatory Sentencing
• SSM Rights
• LGBT Rights
• Immigration
• Positiion on Wealth Inequality
• College and University costs
• Gun Violence
• Far East Policy
• Eastern European Policy
• Climate Change

For a start.

The People aren't asking for too much. They just wanna take home more of their paycheck, see a decrease in the massive Debt, and see their border finally secured. Those are things Conservatives should be able to address. Why haven't they?

The 'Freedom Caucus' isn't 'the people'. They're a fringe even among conservatives. And out of touch on most issues with the rest of Americans.

The Tea Party Caucus changed its name to the Freedom Caucus, simply more evidence that its members are demagogues and charlatans. Dishonest, pitiful and out of touch with reality.

No, that's just evidence that leftwing turds and Republican RINOs have managed to demonize the term to the point where people don't want to be associated with it. However, all the same people still support the same agend, which means putting an end to your agenda.