Kasich commits political suicide

[Skylar]

Kasich is just another run of the mill progressive statist. We don't need any more of them. We have too many already.

How could you not know this?

Kasich is a run of the mill corporate whore who does a good job of using "compassionate conservative" rhetoric

which would be good for a general campaign....

but Trump slapped him down good

Trump....who is slowly falling in the polls?

 

[Skylar]

The 'Freedom Caucus' isn't 'the people'. They're a fringe even among conservatives. And out of touch on most issues with the rest of Americans.

You're obsessed with irrelevance.

I don't consider the views of the majority of the American people to be 'irrelevance'.

\Very few Americans even know what a 'Freedom Caucus' is. They have a few major concerns and expectations. I pointed em out earlier.

Whether or not they know what the 'Freedom Caucus' is has no bearing on whether or not the Freedom Caucus views are in line with the majority of the public.Simply put, on most issues the majority of Americans don't share the views of the Freedom Caucus.

Making any argument that the Freedom Caucus is 'the people' mere meaningless babble and an obvious fallacy.

I don't care about the 'Freedom Caucus.' And i doubt most Americans care either. But that being said, what are they supporting that you so vehemently oppose? Just curious.

The 'Freedom Caucus' sums up the views of the self proclaimed 'real conservatives'. And demonstrate how far these 'real conservatives' are from the views of the American public. As on most issues, 'real conservatives' are on one side. And the majority of the American public is on the other.

Again, what are they supporting that gives you cause to hate them so much? I mean it really doesn't matter, but i'm just curious.

Who says I 'hate them so much'? Your question is not only an awkward attempt to change the topic and abandon the discussion.....but its also prefaced on a fallacy.

The old 'When did you stop beating your wife' fallacy. AKA a loaded question. With the loaded question itself being a red herring. So a fallacy twofer!

Why don't you try again. This time without the fallacies.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I'm where the Republican Party should have been for years. I said all along that its leaders were not Conservatives. They're all Big Government/Open-Borders morons.

How are they any different than Barack Hussein Obama? Where are the big policy differences? Bush/Obama? Same policies. It's time for Republicans to wake up and clean house.

In detail, tell us how you, as a pure conservative would revamp the United States Government, include:

• Tax Policy
• The Fed
• Which Executive Agencies would you eliminate
• The ACA
• Foreign Policy
• The UN
• Campaign Financing
• CJS and Mandatory Sentencing
• SSM Rights
• LGBT Rights
• Immigration
• Positiion on Wealth Inequality
• College and University costs
• Gun Violence
• Far East Policy
• Eastern European Policy
• Climate Change

For a start.

The People aren't asking for too much. They just wanna take home more of their paycheck, see a decrease in the massive Debt, and see their border finally secured. Those are things Conservatives should be able to address. Why haven't they?

The 'Freedom Caucus' isn't 'the people'. They're a fringe even among conservatives. And out of touch on most issues with the rest of Americans.

The Tea Party Caucus changed its name to the Freedom Caucus, simply more evidence that its members are demagogues and charlatans. Dishonest, pitiful and out of touch with reality.

No, that's just evidence that leftwing turds and Republican RINOs have managed to demonize the term to the point where people don't want to be associated with it. However, all the same people still support the same agend, which means putting an end to your agenda.

Demagogues' agendas begin and end with "it's all about me, but I pretend it's all about you".

 

[IlarMeilyr]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Rational people now look at Kasich and ask that same question. WTF?

Here's some GOOD news.

It APPEARS that Kasich may soon have to give it up. Ditto Jeb.

I am not a huge (no pun intended) Chris Christie fan, but he did well enough at the last faux moderated debate (where CNBC journalists prove that the word journalist no longer retains actual meaning in the liberal lexicon) that HE will likely be able to proceed a bit further in this race.

Rand is fading rapidly. Huckabee is flat lining. Good.

Carson did ok. Trump did ok. Fiorino did, too.

Rubio did very nicely.

Cruz kicked ass.

 

[dcraelin]

Holy crap, so much for Kasich. I've been saying a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be the GOP's strongest, but that's history: Kasich lashes out: ‘What has happened to the conservative movement?’

I think this stuff makes him a Marxist/communist/socialist:

"I've about had it with these people," Kasich said at the rally in Westerville, Ohio. "We got one candidate that says we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare. You ever heard of anything so crazy as that? Telling our people in this country who are seniors, who are about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson has acknowledged that he would like to gut Medicare.

Kasich went on, saying, "We got one person saying we ought to have a 10 percent flat tax that will drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars" and there's another challenger in the field "says we ought to take 10 or 11 people and pick them up — I don't know where we're going to go, their homes, their apartments — we're going to pick them up and scream at them to get out of our country. That's crazy. That is just crazy."

Donald Trump has expressed support for deporting immigrants living in the country illegally.

"We got people proposing healthcare reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance," Kasich says. "What has happened to our party? What has happened the conservative movement?"

.

Are you being sarcastic? Those comments and his reasonableness and rational approach is what will make him the most formidable opponent for the democrats. A Kasich-Rubio ticket is the best chance Republicans have to win the Whitehouse. The far right views of most of the rest of the field are not where most Americans are.

Laughable.

Yeah we need another statist progressive POTUS...like we need a hole in the head.

The media sure does fool millions of Americans with their BS...

Well, you're going to get one since the majority of voters are statist progressives.

"statist progressive" is a useless hyperbole

in some sense all those who claim to hold the constitution in high regard are "statists"

No. A statist belevies in big unlimited government... Just as does a progressive.

so says you

 

[dcraelin]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Rational people now look at Kasich and ask that same question. WTF?

Here's some GOOD news.

It APPEARS that Kasich may soon have to give it up. Ditto Jeb.

I am not a huge (no pun intended) Chris Christie fan, but he did well enough at the last faux moderated debate (where CNBC journalists prove that the word journalist no longer retains actual meaning in the liberal lexicon) that HE will likely be able to proceed a bit further in this race.

Rand is fading rapidly. Huckabee is flat lining. Good.

Carson did ok. Trump did ok. Fiorino did, too.

Rubio did very nicely.

Cruz kicked ass.

The establishment may want to keep Kasich around for a while cause there is a distaste for the other corporate whores Jeb and Christie.

They are busy trying to hype Rubio....but this thing with his finances makes me think he may have a gambling problem.

Rand was one of the better ones on stage I thought (as was Fiorina) ,,, Cruz just looked like he was copying Paul with his audit the fed talk.

and I hear Santorum did a good job in the first debate.

 

[Skylar]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Rational people now look at Kasich and ask that same question. WTF?

Here's some GOOD news.

It APPEARS that Kasich may soon have to give it up. Ditto Jeb.

I am not a huge (no pun intended) Chris Christie fan, but he did well enough at the last faux moderated debate (where CNBC journalists prove that the word journalist no longer retains actual meaning in the liberal lexicon) that HE will likely be able to proceed a bit further in this race.

Rand is fading rapidly. Huckabee is flat lining. Good.

Carson did ok. Trump did ok. Fiorino did, too.

Rubio did very nicely.

Cruz kicked ass.

The establishment may want to keep Kasich around for a while cause there is a distaste for the other corporate whores Jeb and Christie.

You mean the guys with the most relevant qualifications?

 

[dcraelin]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Rational people now look at Kasich and ask that same question. WTF?

Here's some GOOD news.

It APPEARS that Kasich may soon have to give it up. Ditto Jeb.

I am not a huge (no pun intended) Chris Christie fan, but he did well enough at the last faux moderated debate (where CNBC journalists prove that the word journalist no longer retains actual meaning in the liberal lexicon) that HE will likely be able to proceed a bit further in this race.

Rand is fading rapidly. Huckabee is flat lining. Good.

Carson did ok. Trump did ok. Fiorino did, too.

Rubio did very nicely.

Cruz kicked ass.

The establishment may want to keep Kasich around for a while cause there is a distaste for the other corporate whores Jeb and Christie.

You mean the guys with the most relevant qualifications?

If by "relevant qualifications" you mean those that can kiss corporate ass best...............then yes.

 

[Skylar]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Rational people now look at Kasich and ask that same question. WTF?

Here's some GOOD news.

It APPEARS that Kasich may soon have to give it up. Ditto Jeb.

I am not a huge (no pun intended) Chris Christie fan, but he did well enough at the last faux moderated debate (where CNBC journalists prove that the word journalist no longer retains actual meaning in the liberal lexicon) that HE will likely be able to proceed a bit further in this race.

Rand is fading rapidly. Huckabee is flat lining. Good.

Carson did ok. Trump did ok. Fiorino did, too.

Rubio did very nicely.

Cruz kicked ass.

The establishment may want to keep Kasich around for a while cause there is a distaste for the other corporate whores Jeb and Christie.

You mean the guys with the most relevant qualifications?

If by "relevant qualifications" you mean those that can kiss corporate ass best...............then yes.

By 'relevant experience', I mean having held elected office. With the two most relevant offices to hold for the Presidency being VP or Governor. The latter moreso than the former. As as governor you're acting as an executive in a government balanced by a legislature and a judiciary.

As the president of the United States is.

 

[bripat9643]

The People aren't asking for too much. They just wanna take home more of their paycheck, see a decrease in the massive Debt, and see their border finally secured. Those are things Conservatives should be able to address. Why haven't they?

The 'Freedom Caucus' isn't 'the people'. They're a fringe even among conservatives. And out of touch on most issues with the rest of Americans.

You're obsessed with irrelevance.

I don't consider the views of the majority of the American people to be 'irrelevance'.

\Very few Americans even know what a 'Freedom Caucus' is. They have a few major concerns and expectations. I pointed em out earlier.

Whether or not they know what the 'Freedom Caucus' is has no bearing on whether or not the Freedom Caucus views are in line with the majority of the public.Simply put, on most issues the majority of Americans don't share the views of the Freedom Caucus.

Making any argument that the Freedom Caucus is 'the people' mere meaningless babble and an obvious fallacy.

I don't care about the 'Freedom Caucus.' And i doubt most Americans care either. But that being said, what are they supporting that you so vehemently oppose? Just curious.

The 'Freedom Caucus' sums up the views of the self proclaimed 'real conservatives'. And demonstrate how far these 'real conservatives' are from the views of the American public. As on most issues, 'real conservatives' are on one side. And the majority of the American public is on the other.

Why are you so afraid to state which of their views you opposed? Which one is it, a balanced budget? Sealing the border? Get spending under control?

 

[bripat9643]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Rational people now look at Kasich and ask that same question. WTF?

Here's some GOOD news.

It APPEARS that Kasich may soon have to give it up. Ditto Jeb.

I am not a huge (no pun intended) Chris Christie fan, but he did well enough at the last faux moderated debate (where CNBC journalists prove that the word journalist no longer retains actual meaning in the liberal lexicon) that HE will likely be able to proceed a bit further in this race.

Rand is fading rapidly. Huckabee is flat lining. Good.

Carson did ok. Trump did ok. Fiorino did, too.

Rubio did very nicely.

Cruz kicked ass.

The establishment may want to keep Kasich around for a while cause there is a distaste for the other corporate whores Jeb and Christie.

You mean the guys with the most relevant qualifications?

If by "relevant qualifications" you mean those that can kiss corporate ass best...............then yes.

By 'relevant experience', I mean having held elected office. With the two most relevant offices to hold for the Presidency being VP or Governor. The latter moreso than the former. As as governor you're acting as an executive in a government balanced by a legislature and a judiciary.

As the president of the United States is.

I don't consider experience in pandering, log rolling, back slapping and lying to the voters as "relevant."

 

[bripat9643]

I like Kasich..he looks at fellow Republicans and says WTF?

Have to see how he does in the debate tonight

Rational people now look at Kasich and ask that same question. WTF?

Here's some GOOD news.

It APPEARS that Kasich may soon have to give it up. Ditto Jeb.

I am not a huge (no pun intended) Chris Christie fan, but he did well enough at the last faux moderated debate (where CNBC journalists prove that the word journalist no longer retains actual meaning in the liberal lexicon) that HE will likely be able to proceed a bit further in this race.

Rand is fading rapidly. Huckabee is flat lining. Good.

Carson did ok. Trump did ok. Fiorino did, too.

Rubio did very nicely.

Cruz kicked ass.

The establishment may want to keep Kasich around for a while cause there is a distaste for the other corporate whores Jeb and Christie.

You mean the guys with the most relevant qualifications?

If by "relevant qualifications" you mean those that can kiss corporate ass best...............then yes.

By 'relevant experience', I mean having held elected office. With the two most relevant offices to hold for the Presidency being VP or Governor. The latter moreso than the former. As as governor you're acting as an executive in a government balanced by a legislature and a judiciary.

As the president of the United States is.

So you supported Bush over Kerry? Really?

 

[Skylar]

The 'Freedom Caucus' isn't 'the people'. They're a fringe even among conservatives. And out of touch on most issues with the rest of Americans.

You're obsessed with irrelevance.

I don't consider the views of the majority of the American people to be 'irrelevance'.

\Very few Americans even know what a 'Freedom Caucus' is. They have a few major concerns and expectations. I pointed em out earlier.

Whether or not they know what the 'Freedom Caucus' is has no bearing on whether or not the Freedom Caucus views are in line with the majority of the public.Simply put, on most issues the majority of Americans don't share the views of the Freedom Caucus.

Making any argument that the Freedom Caucus is 'the people' mere meaningless babble and an obvious fallacy.

I don't care about the 'Freedom Caucus.' And i doubt most Americans care either. But that being said, what are they supporting that you so vehemently oppose? Just curious.

The 'Freedom Caucus' sums up the views of the self proclaimed 'real conservatives'. And demonstrate how far these 'real conservatives' are from the views of the American public. As on most issues, 'real conservatives' are on one side. And the majority of the American public is on the other.

Why are you so afraid to state which of their views you opposed? Which one is it, a balanced budget? Sealing the border? Get spending under control?

My basis of argument isn't what I oppose. Its what the American people oppose. And I've given half a dozen examples of where the Freedom Caucus/fringe right are out of sync with the US public.

My personal opinion doesn't define the opinion of the public in general, being generally irrelevant to it. You're ignoring the public, ignoring the fringe right being out of touch with the majority of Americans on most issues.....

...and are instead desperately trying to make the entire discussion about me personally.

No thank you. I'll stick with my actual argument: how the fringe right is out of touch with the most Americans on most issues.

 

[bripat9643]

Kasich is just another run of the mill progressive statist. We don't need any more of them. We have too many already.

How could you not know this?

Kasich is a run of the mill corporate whore who does a good job of using "compassionate conservative" rhetoric

which would be good for a general campaign....

but Trump slapped him down good

Trump....who is slowly falling in the polls?

Hope springs eternal in the libturd breast.

 

[bripat9643]

You're obsessed with irrelevance.

I don't consider the views of the majority of the American people to be 'irrelevance'.

\Very few Americans even know what a 'Freedom Caucus' is. They have a few major concerns and expectations. I pointed em out earlier.

Whether or not they know what the 'Freedom Caucus' is has no bearing on whether or not the Freedom Caucus views are in line with the majority of the public.Simply put, on most issues the majority of Americans don't share the views of the Freedom Caucus.

Making any argument that the Freedom Caucus is 'the people' mere meaningless babble and an obvious fallacy.

I don't care about the 'Freedom Caucus.' And i doubt most Americans care either. But that being said, what are they supporting that you so vehemently oppose? Just curious.

The 'Freedom Caucus' sums up the views of the self proclaimed 'real conservatives'. And demonstrate how far these 'real conservatives' are from the views of the American public. As on most issues, 'real conservatives' are on one side. And the majority of the American public is on the other.

Why are you so afraid to state which of their views you opposed? Which one is it, a balanced budget? Sealing the border? Get spending under control?

My basis of argument isn't what I oppose. Its what the American people oppose. And I've given half a dozen examples of where the Freedom Caucus/fringe right are out of sync with the US public.

My personal opinion doesn't define the opinion of the public in general, being generally irrelevant to it. You're ignoring the public, ignoring the fringe right being out of touch with the majority of Americans on most issues.....

...and are instead desperately trying to make the entire discussion about me personally.

No thank you. I'll stick with my actual argument: how the fringe right is out of touch with the most Americans on most issues.

Which examples? I don't recall seeing any. Neither do a couple of others participating in this thread.

 

[Skylar]

Rational people now look at Kasich and ask that same question. WTF?

Here's some GOOD news.

It APPEARS that Kasich may soon have to give it up. Ditto Jeb.

I am not a huge (no pun intended) Chris Christie fan, but he did well enough at the last faux moderated debate (where CNBC journalists prove that the word journalist no longer retains actual meaning in the liberal lexicon) that HE will likely be able to proceed a bit further in this race.

Rand is fading rapidly. Huckabee is flat lining. Good.

Carson did ok. Trump did ok. Fiorino did, too.

Rubio did very nicely.

Cruz kicked ass.

The establishment may want to keep Kasich around for a while cause there is a distaste for the other corporate whores Jeb and Christie.

You mean the guys with the most relevant qualifications?

If by "relevant qualifications" you mean those that can kiss corporate ass best...............then yes.

By 'relevant experience', I mean having held elected office. With the two most relevant offices to hold for the Presidency being VP or Governor. The latter moreso than the former. As as governor you're acting as an executive in a government balanced by a legislature and a judiciary.

As the president of the United States is.

So you supported Bush over Kerry? Really?

I wasn't aware that Bush or Kerry were running. You seem confused.

 

[bripat9643]

The establishment may want to keep Kasich around for a while cause there is a distaste for the other corporate whores Jeb and Christie.

You mean the guys with the most relevant qualifications?

If by "relevant qualifications" you mean those that can kiss corporate ass best...............then yes.

By 'relevant experience', I mean having held elected office. With the two most relevant offices to hold for the Presidency being VP or Governor. The latter moreso than the former. As as governor you're acting as an executive in a government balanced by a legislature and a judiciary.

As the president of the United States is.

So you supported Bush over Kerry? Really?

I wasn't aware that Bush or Kerry were running. You seem confused.

Did you support Bush in the 2004 election?

Tell the truth, or we'll laugh you out of the forum.

 

[Skylar]

Kasich is just another run of the mill progressive statist. We don't need any more of them. We have too many already.

How could you not know this?

Kasich is a run of the mill corporate whore who does a good job of using "compassionate conservative" rhetoric

which would be good for a general campaign....

but Trump slapped him down good

Trump....who is slowly falling in the polls?

Hope springs eternal in the libturd breast.

Oh, I'd love a Trump GOP nod. Alas, its not happening.

 

[bripat9643]

Kasich is just another run of the mill progressive statist. We don't need any more of them. We have too many already.

How could you not know this?

Kasich is a run of the mill corporate whore who does a good job of using "compassionate conservative" rhetoric

which would be good for a general campaign....

but Trump slapped him down good

Trump....who is slowly falling in the polls?

Hope springs eternal in the libturd breast.

Oh, I'd love a Trump GOP nod. Alas, its not happening.

Sure you would. That's why the Dim media spends so much time and effort trying to destroy him.

 

[Skylar]

You mean the guys with the most relevant qualifications?

If by "relevant qualifications" you mean those that can kiss corporate ass best...............then yes.

By 'relevant experience', I mean having held elected office. With the two most relevant offices to hold for the Presidency being VP or Governor. The latter moreso than the former. As as governor you're acting as an executive in a government balanced by a legislature and a judiciary.

As the president of the United States is.

So you supported Bush over Kerry? Really?

I wasn't aware that Bush or Kerry were running. You seem confused.

Did you support Bush in the 2004 election?

Tell the truth, or we'll laugh you out of the forum.

What relevance does Bush have with this election, my little Red Herring?

And why are you so desperate to change the topic?