Kamala Harris has raised donations from 38,000 people within 24 hours which beats Bernie’s record

[Billy000]

I don’t necessarily think this means Harris has a real shot because it is still way too early to make the assumption. The takeaway here is that republican voters don’t seem to appreciate the power of a grassroots movement on the left. See, while candidates for the GOP or Hillary have always relied on super PAC funding for their campaigns, Bernie and Kamala have proven that real support from the people comes from rejecting super PAC funding and relying on small time donations to get a feel of how the American public sees you. The Koch Brothers may try to make republicans look powerful with their funding, the truth of the matter is that it only makes the candidate look weak if you see his finance campaign.

The second point to take away from this is that this achievement by Bernie or Kamala puts to rest the narrative from the right that liberals are just selfish bottom feeders living off the government. These fundraising milestones make it clear that liberal voters more than conservatives are willing to give up their own money for a cause. Republican voters don’t do this because A) they are really just more selfish than they want to admit and only care about voting or B) the GOP candidate doesn’t even push for their financial support because he ultimately doesn’t need it. He has Citizen’s United to coast on for a campaign. Man is that pathetic.

Kamala Harris presidential campaign attracts more donors in day one than Bernie Sanders’ first 24 hours in 2016

 

[leftwinger]

Great. Another 1/2 Black loon. See the Bologna family murder or her "work" under willie Brown. And recent Kavanaugh nonsense. This one is almost as dumb as Biden. Uhh......we tried this route. FAIL.

 

[Billy000]

Great. Another 1/2 Black loon. See the Bologna family murder or her "work" under willie Brown. And recent Kavanaugh nonsense. This one is almost as dumb as Biden. Uhh......we tried this route. FAIL.

Oh, so your main point is that she is half black and therefore inferior? My god you’re pathetic.

 

[HappyJoy]

I don’t necessarily think this means Harris has a real shot because it is still way too early to make the assumption. The takeaway here is that republican voters don’t seem to appreciate the power of a grassroots movement on the left. See, while candidates for the GOP or Hillary have always relied on super PAC funding for their campaigns, Bernie and Kamala have proven that real support from the people comes from rejecting super PAC funding and relying on small time donations to get a feel of how the American public sees you. The Koch Brothers may try to make republicans look powerful with their funding, the truth of the matter is that it only makes the candidate look weak if you see his finance campaign.

The second point to take away from this is that this achievement by Bernie or Kamala puts to rest the narrative from the right that liberals are just selfish bottom feeders living off the government. These fundraising milestones make it clear that liberal voters more than conservatives are willing to give up their own money for a cause. Republican voters don’t do this because A) they are really just more selfish than they want to admit and only care about voting or B) the GOP candidate doesn’t even push for their financial support because he ultimately doesn’t need it. He has Citizen’s United to coast on for a campaign. Man is that pathetic.

Kamala Harris presidential campaign attracts more donors in day one than Bernie Sanders’ first 24 hours in 2016

I think she has as good a shot or more than anyone else running so far, including Individual #1.

 

[Indeependent]

After Kavanaugh, Independents will spit on her picture.

 

[HappyJoy]

After Kavanaugh, Independents will spit on her picture.

Yeah, maybe Tobin and Squi and weird calendar fetishists. Other than that I think you're overplaying any amount of popularity Kavanaugh has.

 

[McRocket]

I assume she does not care (enough) about a balanced budget, bringing the troops home and removing the Fed's 'full' employment' mandate...so, I hope she loses. Same with all the candidates.

My guess is she could care less about deficits or bringing the troops home and does not have a clue what the Fed 'full employment' mandate even means (though I doubt the vast majority of politicians/citizens do either) to the economy.

Beyond that - single payer is a mistake (and she seems for it). It's better than what America has now, but it is a mistake (I lived in Canada for years - I know). Dual-payer is the answer...with the government looking after those who need it and the private sector, everyone else.

 

[Indeependent]

After Kavanaugh, Independents will spit on her picture.

Yeah, maybe Tobin and Squi and weird calendar fetishists. Other than that I think you're overplaying any amount of popularity Kavanaugh has.

It has nothing to do with Kavanaugh; it has to do with “Bitch Face”.
Hopefully, she’ll run with Spartacus.
What a fucking loony pair.

 

[HappyJoy]

After Kavanaugh, Independents will spit on her picture.

Yeah, maybe Tobin and Squi and weird calendar fetishists. Other than that I think you're overplaying any amount of popularity Kavanaugh has.

It has nothing to do with Kavanaugh; it has to do with “Bitch Face”.
Hopefully, she’ll run with Spartacus.
What a fucking loony pair.

I see, so you don't have much to offer except that you're going to provide whatever it is you just did because they may end up running against Trump.

By the way, if you're concerned about independents, you should see how Trump is cratering with them.

 

[Billy000]

I assume she does not care (enough) about a balanced budget, bringing the troops home and removing the Fed's 'full' employment' mandate...so, I hope she loses. Same with all the candidates.

My guess is she could care less about deficits or bringing the troops home and does not have a clue what the Fed 'full employment' mandate even means (though I doubt the vast majority of politicians/citizens do either) to the economy.

Beyond that - single payer is a mistake (and she seems for it). It's better than what America has now, but it is a mistake (I lived in Canada for years - I know). Dual-payer is the answer...with the government looking after those who need it and the private sector, everyone else.

Let me ask you this. Canada’s healthcare system is flawed, but why do Canadians prefer their healthcare system over ours? Single-payer isn’t perfect, but it’s a massive improvement to what we have now.

 

[McRocket]

I assume she does not care (enough) about a balanced budget, bringing the troops home and removing the Fed's 'full' employment' mandate...so, I hope she loses. Same with all the candidates.

My guess is she could care less about deficits or bringing the troops home and does not have a clue what the Fed 'full employment' mandate even means (though I doubt the vast majority of politicians/citizens do either) to the economy.

Beyond that - single payer is a mistake (and she seems for it). It's better than what America has now, but it is a mistake (I lived in Canada for years - I know). Dual-payer is the answer...with the government looking after those who need it and the private sector, everyone else.

Let me ask you this. Canada’s healthcare system is flawed, but why do Canadians prefer their healthcare system over ours? Single-payer isn’t perfect, but it’s a massive improvement to what we have now.

Well, I said it is better than what America has now (if you are poor - worse if you are rich/have great insurance).

But Americans are different than Canadians. The latter are generally less objectionable to government control. The former are mostly about freedom.


Let me ask you this:

Do you think Americans are going to like being trapped in hospitals - possibly for months at a time - not being allowed to leave the hospital while waiting for life-saving operations?

Because that happens in Canada...all the time.

The difference between healthcare for profit and government healthcare is the former depends on customer satisfaction for profit. The latter could care less about customer satisfaction or profit. So they treat you like a number.

I don't think the average American will put up with that for long. I think the poor ones will grin and bear it (because they will have free healthcare). But the rest will probably not.


With all due respect, you cannot know what single-payer is like unless you have lived with it for some time.
If you never get a complicated illness/injury - it can be great. But if you do - it can be a nightmare.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Kamala Harris will have her first campaign promise be to make the whole country a sanctuary for the world's worst criminals.

 

[fncceo]

I don’t necessarily think this means Harris has a real shot because it is still way too early to make the assumption. The takeaway here is that republican voters don’t seem to appreciate the power of a grassroots movement on the left. See, while candidates for the GOP or Hillary have always relied on super PAC funding for their campaigns, Bernie and Kamala have proven that real support from the people comes from rejecting super PAC funding and relying on small time donations to get a feel of how the American public sees you. The Koch Brothers may try to make republicans look powerful with their funding, the truth of the matter is that it only makes the candidate look weak if you see his finance campaign.

The second point to take away from this is that this achievement by Bernie or Kamala puts to rest the narrative from the right that liberals are just selfish bottom feeders living off the government. These fundraising milestones make it clear that liberal voters more than conservatives are willing to give up their own money for a cause. Republican voters don’t do this because A) they are really just more selfish than they want to admit and only care about voting or B) the GOP candidate doesn’t even push for their financial support because he ultimately doesn’t need it. He has Citizen’s United to coast on for a campaign. Man is that pathetic.

Kamala Harris presidential campaign attracts more donors in day one than Bernie Sanders’ first 24 hours in 2016

Are you sure she's radical enough?

I don't think the Dems can win unless they run a real radical firebrand for President. What's Angela Davis doing these days?

 

[fncceo]

How about Patty Hearst?

 

[Billy000]

I assume she does not care (enough) about a balanced budget, bringing the troops home and removing the Fed's 'full' employment' mandate...so, I hope she loses. Same with all the candidates.

My guess is she could care less about deficits or bringing the troops home and does not have a clue what the Fed 'full employment' mandate even means (though I doubt the vast majority of politicians/citizens do either) to the economy.

Beyond that - single payer is a mistake (and she seems for it). It's better than what America has now, but it is a mistake (I lived in Canada for years - I know). Dual-payer is the answer...with the government looking after those who need it and the private sector, everyone else.

Let me ask you this. Canada’s healthcare system is flawed, but why do Canadians prefer their healthcare system over ours? Single-payer isn’t perfect, but it’s a massive improvement to what we have now.

Well, I said it is better than what America has now (if you are poor - worse if you are rich/have great insurance).

But Americans are different than Canadians. The latter are generally less objectionable to government control. The former are mostly about freedom.


Let me ask you this:

Do you think Americans are going to like being trapped in hospitals - possibly for months at a time - not being allowed to leave the hospital while waiting for life-saving operations?

Because that happens in Canada...all the time.

The difference between healthcare for profit and government healthcare is the former depends on customer satisfaction for profit. The latter could care less about customer satisfaction or profit. So they treat you like a number.

I don't think the average American will put up with that for long. I think the poor ones will grin and bear it (because they will have free healthcare). But the rest will probably not.


With all due respect, you cannot know what single-payer is like unless you have lived with it for some time.
If you never get a complicated illness/injury - it can be great. But if you do - it can be a nightmare.

Well, sure, the upside of the American healthcare system is that the quality is great and the treatment can be immediate if you have the coin to pay for it. But Because the middle class is shrinking and the poor are only getting more poor, that doesn’t even mean shit for most Americans. Sure, in Canada big procedures are put off because of a waiting list and that’s a problem, but at least when it comes to immediate healthcare in Canada it’s completely affordable. That kind of care is much more frequent and thus the system works even if it isn’t perfect.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Great. Another 1/2 Black loon. See the Bologna family murder or her "work" under willie Brown. And recent Kavanaugh nonsense. This one is almost as dumb as Biden. Uhh......we tried this route. FAIL.

Oh, so your main point is that she is half black and therefore inferior? My god you’re pathetic.

I think he pointed out she was part of the dickweed patrol during the Kavenaugh hearings.

You really are dense.

 

[Issa]

Great. Another 1/2 Black loon. See the Bologna family murder or her "work" under willie Brown. And recent Kavanaugh nonsense. This one is almost as dumb as Biden. Uhh......we tried this route. FAIL.

Mr racist pro orangina Kamala Harris is the daughter of two immigrants , her mom is a breast cancer scientist and her dad was a Stanford professor.

 

[McRocket]

I assume she does not care (enough) about a balanced budget, bringing the troops home and removing the Fed's 'full' employment' mandate...so, I hope she loses. Same with all the candidates.

My guess is she could care less about deficits or bringing the troops home and does not have a clue what the Fed 'full employment' mandate even means (though I doubt the vast majority of politicians/citizens do either) to the economy.

Beyond that - single payer is a mistake (and she seems for it). It's better than what America has now, but it is a mistake (I lived in Canada for years - I know). Dual-payer is the answer...with the government looking after those who need it and the private sector, everyone else.

Let me ask you this. Canada’s healthcare system is flawed, but why do Canadians prefer their healthcare system over ours? Single-payer isn’t perfect, but it’s a massive improvement to what we have now.

Well, I said it is better than what America has now (if you are poor - worse if you are rich/have great insurance).

But Americans are different than Canadians. The latter are generally less objectionable to government control. The former are mostly about freedom.


Let me ask you this:

Do you think Americans are going to like being trapped in hospitals - possibly for months at a time - not being allowed to leave the hospital while waiting for life-saving operations?

Because that happens in Canada...all the time.

The difference between healthcare for profit and government healthcare is the former depends on customer satisfaction for profit. The latter could care less about customer satisfaction or profit. So they treat you like a number.

I don't think the average American will put up with that for long. I think the poor ones will grin and bear it (because they will have free healthcare). But the rest will probably not.


With all due respect, you cannot know what single-payer is like unless you have lived with it for some time.
If you never get a complicated illness/injury - it can be great. But if you do - it can be a nightmare.

Well, sure, the upside of the American healthcare system is that the quality is great and the treatment can be immediate if you have the coin to pay for it. But Because the middle class is shrinking and the poor are only getting more poor, that doesn’t even mean shit for most Americans. Sure, in Canada big procedures are put off because of a waiting list and that’s a problem, but at least when it comes to immediate healthcare in Canada it’s completely affordable. That kind of care is much more frequent and thus the system works even if it isn’t perfect.

Fair enough.

But you did not answer my question.

Do you think Americans are going to like being trapped in hospitals - possibly for months at a time - not being allowed to leave the hospital while waiting for life-saving operations?

Because that happens in Canada...all the time.

That never happens in a for-profit hospital because it costs SO much for a patient just to stay in a hospital overnight. SO they let you wait at home for the operation (as it should be).
But in Canada, they don't care about waste or patient satisfaction. So the doctors will cover their legal asses and often not let you leave until your operation (in case something happens to you due to your condition). Which could take weeks/months.

And when I say 'trapped'. I mean 'trapped'.

You cannot leave or the doctor's threaten to push you down the waiting list for your operation. You cannot go for a walk around the hospital. You cannot leave the building. And sometimes you cannot even leave the floor.

That happened to a friend of mine (waiting for a bypass operation). He was trapped for over a month, completely miserable and he did not know when the operation would be.
And he was not hooked up to any machines. He could move around and take care of himself. He should have been allowed to go home. But they would not let him...just to cover their legal asses. He just lay there, hour after hour, day after day, week after week...trapped.
Finally, after a (IMO) botched operation...he died.

THAT is single-payer (granted, at/near it's worst - but it is not an uncommon story). Virtually no rights, no choices and you are treated like a number.

 

[Billy000]

I assume she does not care (enough) about a balanced budget, bringing the troops home and removing the Fed's 'full' employment' mandate...so, I hope she loses. Same with all the candidates.

My guess is she could care less about deficits or bringing the troops home and does not have a clue what the Fed 'full employment' mandate even means (though I doubt the vast majority of politicians/citizens do either) to the economy.

Beyond that - single payer is a mistake (and she seems for it). It's better than what America has now, but it is a mistake (I lived in Canada for years - I know). Dual-payer is the answer...with the government looking after those who need it and the private sector, everyone else.

Let me ask you this. Canada’s healthcare system is flawed, but why do Canadians prefer their healthcare system over ours? Single-payer isn’t perfect, but it’s a massive improvement to what we have now.

Well, I said it is better than what America has now (if you are poor - worse if you are rich/have great insurance).

But Americans are different than Canadians. The latter are generally less objectionable to government control. The former are mostly about freedom.


Let me ask you this:

Do you think Americans are going to like being trapped in hospitals - possibly for months at a time - not being allowed to leave the hospital while waiting for life-saving operations?

Because that happens in Canada...all the time.

The difference between healthcare for profit and government healthcare is the former depends on customer satisfaction for profit. The latter could care less about customer satisfaction or profit. So they treat you like a number.

I don't think the average American will put up with that for long. I think the poor ones will grin and bear it (because they will have free healthcare). But the rest will probably not.


With all due respect, you cannot know what single-payer is like unless you have lived with it for some time.
If you never get a complicated illness/injury - it can be great. But if you do - it can be a nightmare.

Well, sure, the upside of the American healthcare system is that the quality is great and the treatment can be immediate if you have the coin to pay for it. But Because the middle class is shrinking and the poor are only getting more poor, that doesn’t even mean shit for most Americans. Sure, in Canada big procedures are put off because of a waiting list and that’s a problem, but at least when it comes to immediate healthcare in Canada it’s completely affordable. That kind of care is much more frequent and thus the system works even if it isn’t perfect.

Fair enough.

But you did not answer my question.

Do you think Americans are going to like being trapped in hospitals - possibly for months at a time - not being allowed to leave the hospital while waiting for life-saving operations?

Because that happens in Canada...all the time.

That never happens in a for-profit hospital because it costs SO much for a patient just to stay in a hospital overnight. SO they let you wait at home for the operation (as it should be).
But in Canada, they don't care about waste or patient satisfaction. So the doctors will cover their legal asses and often not let you leave until your operation (in case something happens to you due to your condition). Which could take weeks/months.

And when I say 'trapped'. I mean 'trapped'.

You cannot leave or the doctor's threaten to push you down the waiting list for your operation. You cannot go for a walk around the hospital. You cannot leave the building. And sometimes you cannot even leave the floor.

That happened to a friend of mine (waiting for a bypass operation). He was trapped for over a month, completely miserable and he did not know when the operation would be.
And he was not hooked up to any machines. He could move around and take care of himself. He should have been allowed to go home. But they would not let him...just to cover their legal asses. He just lay there, hour after hour, day after day, week after week...trapped.
Finally, after a (IMO) botched operation...he died.

THAT is single-payer (granted, at/near it's worst - but it is not an uncommon story). Virtually no rights, no choices and you are treated like a number.

I mean that does sound like a nightmare scenario for your friend, but I would be curious to know just how common it really is.

 

[Leo123]

Occasional Cortex is a smart girl when it comes to optics and unsupported comments. She is radical left and has been given a bull horn by the MSM and even cable news such as Fox. She is the ultimate poser and if left unchecked, will be the killer of the Democrat Party.