Just how bad is Covid 19?

[BULLDOG]

There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.

Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579

It's a hoax. Move on, get back to work and stop being a commie bitch.

Did all those dead people die just to further a hoax? I've never seen that kind of dedication before.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.

Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579

why are the months and the years of those months missing from the chart?

 

[BULLDOG]

A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651.

So you're saying our lives lost in WW1, WW2, and the civil war were not enough to worry about? Covid has killed more over the same length time period than all three of them.

Are you gainfully employed?
Many people aren't.
I am but my wife lost her job.
Businesses and people need to pay bills.

Lots of people go bankrupt over medical problems. It's tragic every time. Sad that you are only seeing how bad it is now.

 

[BULLDOG]

There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.

Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579

why are the months and the years of those months missing from the chart?

The dates of those wars are in the OP. Each of them lasted for a different length of time, so the only rational way to compare them is to show the average number of deaths over the same length of time.

 

[eagle1462010]

A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651.

So you're saying our lives lost in WW1, WW2, and the civil war were not enough to worry about? Covid has killed more over the same length time period than all three of them.

Are you gainfully employed?
Many people aren't.
I am but my wife lost her job.
Businesses and people need to pay bills.

I was only out 5 weeks. But way too many are still not rehired where I work. We may now be at 25% of what we had before this. Not to mention all the capital jobs that are now on hold til after next year. That is 100's of millions of dollars on hold here. Not kidding.

 

[eagle1462010]

A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651.

So you're saying our lives lost in WW1, WW2, and the civil war were not enough to worry about? Covid has killed more over the same length time period than all three of them.

Are you gainfully employed?
Many people aren't.
I am but my wife lost her job.
Businesses and people need to pay bills.

Lots of people go bankrupt over medical problems. It's tragic every time. Sad that you are only seeing how bad it is now.

BS Virus did it...............not medical reasons..........gov't shutting down the damned country reasons.

40 million lost jobs to this BS............go peddle your Fing Fear somewhere else.

 

[gipper]

There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.

Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579

It's a hoax. Move on, get back to work and stop being a commie bitch.

Did all those dead people die just to further a hoax? I've never seen that kind of dedication before.

Well if Biden wins in November and the virus goes away, we will know we’ve been had.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The dates of those wars are in the OP.

thats why I asked, US involvement in WWII is listed as 1939 when the Japanese did not bomb us until dec. of 1941 which means if the first six months are starting in 1939 they intentionally skewer the results to lower the number which is the way a hoax would do it.

edit: changed 42 to 41

Each of them lasted for a different length of time, so the only rational way to compare them is to show the average number of deaths over the same length of time.

which does not in any way mean that the months and years for those six months could not be posted...the entire post is a false narrative since you claim that right thinking people [right minded was your term] would not dispute those numbers and yet many of those right thinking/minded people dispute the narrative being drawn in the covid-19 hoax

 

[BULLDOG]

A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651.

So you're saying our lives lost in WW1, WW2, and the civil war were not enough to worry about? Covid has killed more over the same length time period than all three of them.

Are you gainfully employed?
Many people aren't.
I am but my wife lost her job.
Businesses and people need to pay bills.

Lots of people go bankrupt over medical problems. It's tragic every time. Sad that you are only seeing how bad it is now.

BS Virus did it...............not medical reasons..........gov't shutting down the damned country reasons.

40 million lost jobs to this BS............go peddle your Fing Fear somewhere else.

The entire world recognized the danger of the virus and made adjustments. Only you and a few other trump supporters think that was a waste of time. That doesn't tell you something? I'll bet there are more flat earthers than there are those that agree with you.

 

[BULLDOG]

There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.

Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579

It's a hoax. Move on, get back to work and stop being a commie bitch.

Did all those dead people die just to further a hoax? I've never seen that kind of dedication before.

Well if Biden wins in November and the virus goes away, we will know we’ve been had.

Can you name a few of those people who voluntarily died to help spread a hoax?

 

[eagle1462010]

A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651.

So you're saying our lives lost in WW1, WW2, and the civil war were not enough to worry about? Covid has killed more over the same length time period than all three of them.

Are you gainfully employed?
Many people aren't.
I am but my wife lost her job.
Businesses and people need to pay bills.

Lots of people go bankrupt over medical problems. It's tragic every time. Sad that you are only seeing how bad it is now.

BS Virus did it...............not medical reasons..........gov't shutting down the damned country reasons.

40 million lost jobs to this BS............go peddle your Fing Fear somewhere else.

The entire world recognized the danger of the virus and made adjustments. Only you and a few other trump supporters think that was a waste of time. That doesn't tell you something? I'll bet there are more flat earthers than there are those that agree with you.

STFU

You and people like you have done enough damage. This virus isn't nearly as bad as you try to say........and they are cooking the books on it............Now that deaths are down all you can say is LOOK AT SO MANY GETTING IT........But the body bags aren't filling up........Pathetic..........and definition of Covid death certificates is Pathetic.

I'm over this BS........your stinking masks.......your OBEY BS........and I'm by no means alone on this.........A lot of people are getting pissed off.........will not work out well for the DNC come November.........

 

[eagle1462010]

How dare the op insult the greatest generation with this stinking virus.

Inflated numbers.......in 1957 and 1968 we lost over 100k........to viruses..........the country didn't shut down.

 

[BULLDOG]

The dates of those wars are in the OP.

thats why I asked, US involvement in WWII is listed as 1939 when the Japanese did not bomb us until dec. of 1941 which means if the first six months are starting in 1939 they intentionally skewer the results to lower the number which is the way a hoax would do it.

edit: changed 42 to 41

Each of them lasted for a different length of time, so the only rational way to compare them is to show the average number of deaths over the same length of time.

which does not in any way mean that the months and years for those six months could not be posted...the entire post is a false narrative since you claim that right thinking people would not dispute those numbers and yet many of those right thinking people dispute the narrative being drawn in the covid-19 hoax

That's funny. You think the starting dates for some of the worst wars in the world's history were manipulated to help spread a hoax. You need industrial strength tin foil. That single ply stuff from the grocery store isn't enough for you. I already explained it to you, If you still can't get it yet, go ask your math teacher.

 

[BULLDOG]

A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651.

So you're saying our lives lost in WW1, WW2, and the civil war were not enough to worry about? Covid has killed more over the same length time period than all three of them.

Are you gainfully employed?
Many people aren't.
I am but my wife lost her job.
Businesses and people need to pay bills.

Lots of people go bankrupt over medical problems. It's tragic every time. Sad that you are only seeing how bad it is now.

BS Virus did it...............not medical reasons..........gov't shutting down the damned country reasons.

40 million lost jobs to this BS............go peddle your Fing Fear somewhere else.

The entire world recognized the danger of the virus and made adjustments. Only you and a few other trump supporters think that was a waste of time. That doesn't tell you something? I'll bet there are more flat earthers than there are those that agree with you.

STFU

You and people like you have done enough damage. This virus isn't nearly as bad as you try to say........and they are cooking the books on it............Now that deaths are down all you can say is LOOK AT SO MANY GETTING IT........But the body bags aren't filling up........Pathetic..........and definition of Covid death certificates is Pathetic.

I'm over this BS........your stinking masks.......your OBEY BS........and I'm by no means alone on this.........A lot of people are getting pissed off.........will not work out well for the DNC come November.........

What ever you say Karen.

 

[eagle1462010]

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu...

www.realclearpolitics.com

The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at about 100,000. But even the “best estimate” 0.26% fatality rate is a significant overestimate because of how the CDC is counting deaths. The actual rate is fairly close to a recent bad year for the seasonal flu. And though public health officials have been transparent about how they are counting coronavirus deaths, the implications for calculating the infection fatality rate are not appreciated.

“The case definition is very simplistic,” Dr. Ngozi Ezike, director of Illinois Department of Public Health, explains. “It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of [a] clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”

Medical examiners from Colorado to Michigan use the same definition. In Macomb and Oakland counties in Michigan, where most of the deaths in that state occurred, medical examiners classify any death as a coronavirus death when the postmortem test is positive. Even people who died in suicides and automobile accidents meet that definition.


Such expansive definitions are not due to rogue public health officials. The rules direct them to do this. “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx recently noted.

Beyond including people with the virus who clearly didn’t die from it, the numbers are inflated by counting people who don’t even have the virus. New York has classified many cases as coronavirus deaths even when postmortem tests have been negative. The diagnosis can be based on symptoms, even though the symptoms are often similar to those of the seasonal flu.

 

[BULLDOG]

How dare the op insult the greatest generation with this stinking virus.

Inflated numbers.......in 1957 and 1968 we lost over 100k........to viruses..........the country didn't shut down.

And we lost over 135K in the last 5 months. What is your point?

 

[gipper]

There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.

Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579

It's a hoax. Move on, get back to work and stop being a commie bitch.

Did all those dead people die just to further a hoax? I've never seen that kind of dedication before.

Well if Biden wins in November and the virus goes away, we will know we’ve been had.

Can you name a few of those people who voluntarily died to help spread a hoax?

Can’t. Never said it’s a hoax.

 

[BULLDOG]

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu...

www.realclearpolitics.com

The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at about 100,000. But even the “best estimate” 0.26% fatality rate is a significant overestimate because of how the CDC is counting deaths. The actual rate is fairly close to a recent bad year for the seasonal flu. And though public health officials have been transparent about how they are counting coronavirus deaths, the implications for calculating the infection fatality rate are not appreciated.

“The case definition is very simplistic,” Dr. Ngozi Ezike, director of Illinois Department of Public Health, explains. “It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means, technically even if you died of [a] clear alternative cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”

Medical examiners from Colorado to Michigan use the same definition. In Macomb and Oakland counties in Michigan, where most of the deaths in that state occurred, medical examiners classify any death as a coronavirus death when the postmortem test is positive. Even people who died in suicides and automobile accidents meet that definition.


Such expansive definitions are not due to rogue public health officials. The rules direct them to do this. “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx recently noted.

Beyond including people with the virus who clearly didn’t die from it, the numbers are inflated by counting people who don’t even have the virus. New York has classified many cases as coronavirus deaths even when postmortem tests have been negative. The diagnosis can be based on symptoms, even though the symptoms are often similar to those of the seasonal flu.

No dumb ass. The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at over 135,000.

 

[eagle1462010]

A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651.

So you're saying our lives lost in WW1, WW2, and the civil war were not enough to worry about? Covid has killed more over the same length time period than all three of them.

Are you gainfully employed?
Many people aren't.
I am but my wife lost her job.
Businesses and people need to pay bills.

Lots of people go bankrupt over medical problems. It's tragic every time. Sad that you are only seeing how bad it is now.

BS Virus did it...............not medical reasons..........gov't shutting down the damned country reasons.

40 million lost jobs to this BS............go peddle your Fing Fear somewhere else.

The entire world recognized the danger of the virus and made adjustments. Only you and a few other trump supporters think that was a waste of time. That doesn't tell you something? I'll bet there are more flat earthers than there are those that agree with you.

STFU

You and people like you have done enough damage. This virus isn't nearly as bad as you try to say........and they are cooking the books on it............Now that deaths are down all you can say is LOOK AT SO MANY GETTING IT........But the body bags aren't filling up........Pathetic..........and definition of Covid death certificates is Pathetic.

I'm over this BS........your stinking masks.......your OBEY BS........and I'm by no means alone on this.........A lot of people are getting pissed off.........will not work out well for the DNC come November.........

What ever you say Karen.

Take Karen virtue signalling and shove them too.

Your Fear Mongering........Mask Shaming asses are a bunch of Fing LOSERS......And this has destroyed our country.

People like you NEVER STOP WHINING or COMPLAINING.

This virus ISN'T JACK SHIT...........done by Globalist for maximum Fear effect.....destroy small business and make people dependent on the Gov't. Nothing more.

The deaths are jacked the hell up........and down South and Fly over States......well they aren't jacking the numbers up for you clowns as much........the CDC guidelines INSURED A HIGH BODY BAG COUNT.

All BS.

 

[basquebromance]

MASK UP, WASH YOUR HANDS!