Just curious - who on here lives in a "mandatory face coverings required in public" county?

[Montrovant]

The safety precautions were set up to "flatten the curve" not to prevent anyone from getting sick. Just to make sure the healthcare system didn't become overstressed.

I'd say yes and no to that. The precautions weren't meant to stop the virus, but slow it down; they are in place to prevent too many people from getting sick at once.

I just read that 56 ICUs in Florida are at capacity. In this state, at least, the curve is anything but flattened at the moment.

 

[Nosmo King]

People, especially guys, aren't even washing their hands

Its the Libs who aren't washing their hands after using the can.

President Trump suggested it and they reflexively said "not my president, I'm not going to wash my hands for his benefit"

Not everyone is stupid enough to politicize hygiene. But you are!

The proof is in the pudding, Nosmo. Areas of the country that are most anti-Trump- like NYC- had the highest COVID Death Rates by far, because of their people's disregard of the President's request for the people to wash their hands after using the can.

I'm not going to quit washing my hands just because doofuses like you think that my doing so is just an act of political fealty to our President.

You're using specious logic! The reason NYC got hit so hard has more to do with population density and travel, not politics! Look at the current hot spots; Texas, Arizona, Florida, Alabama.

The virus is apolitical.

 

[Montrovant]

People are always fucking dying, you dipshit drama queen. You know what the leading cause of death is? Birth, you dumbass.... Out of all the friends I made in 20 years in the Army, only 2 of them are still alive. Death is part of life; that isn't going to change just because you all strap maxi-pads to your faces.
And the government can't shut down shit if you all just ignore them you dumb fuck..... quit going along with everything everyone tells you to, all the time. Learn to say; "No." already, it's not that hard.
You aren't doing this to be a good citizen, you're doing it because you're too scared and weak not to. And then you attack everyone else who refuses to play these stupid games because it reminds you of how you, yourself are too gutless to stand up for yourself and that makes you angry and resentful. So you attack anyone who hasn't been gelded yet, like you have.

I'm curious, do you think the same number of people would die if people ignored all safety precautions?

The most important thing is to wash your hands; I can't believe how many people ignore that.

That may be true regarding the virus, although since it is now believed to be spread mainly as an airborne pathogen rather than a contact one, that actually may not be true. However, that doesn't answer my question. You seemed to be implying that precautions for COVID-19 aren't important because people die all the time. I wanted to know if you think that same logic applies to all precautionary measures people take, and if not, why not.

 

[Nosmo King]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Non sequitur.

No. You comply with those other public health requirements but not mask wearing. You are accustomed to wearing shirts and shoes in stores. Not smoking in restaurants. But you are not so accustomed to wearing a face mask. Even though you know it's a matter of public hygiene and mitigating a pandemic, you chose to slather it in partisan politics and false machismo. Why?

 

[freyasman]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Does anyone have the right to force me to? If a private business wants to deny me service and ask me to leave, that's fine; their business, their choice.
But no one has any authority to demand I wear a mask.... or a yellow arm band with a star of David, or anything else.
I've seen this movie before; I didn't like the way it ended.

 

[Oddball]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Non sequitur.

No. You comply with those other public health requirements but not mask wearing. You are accustomed to wearing shirts and shoes in stores. Not smoking in restaurants. But you are not so accustomed to wearing a face mask. Even though you know it's a matter of public hygiene and mitigating a pandemic, you chose to slather it in partisan politics and false machismo. Why?

It's not partisan politics....It's technocratic tyrants who haven't been right from day one about anything bossing everyone around, and good little lemming supplicants like you going all Karen on those of us who are fed up with their dictatorial bullshit.

....and the horse you rode in on.

 

[Polishprince]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Non sequitur.

No. You comply with those other public health requirements but not mask wearing. You are accustomed to wearing shirts and shoes in stores. Not smoking in restaurants. But you are not so accustomed to wearing a face mask. Even though you know it's a matter of public hygiene and mitigating a pandemic, you chose to slather it in partisan politics and false machismo. Why?

A lot of people don't think it makes a difference. But there is precedence. I remember when aids first became popular. Public health officials quickly determined that taking it in the Caboose was a principal vector for the disease.

Homosexuals refused to "Go Normative" and the aids pandemic continued- in fact to this day.

 

[freyasman]

Wow, Freyasman sure got triggered.

Yeah, people like that piss me off.
The folks who just demand that everyone just go along, and do whatever the herd does, or else.
(SMH)

I truly do not get people like that..... where does that sort of attitude come from? In a country founded on freedom, why are there so many folks who feel entitled to coerce conformity from other people? Why are so many people so willing to make up nonsense and then demand that everyone else fall in and co-sign their bullshit?

Can someone explain that?

WTF, over?

Because people are fucking dying you dumbshit. Assholes like you are ignoring safety recommendations going out and partying and now we see cases spiking in those areas. Now as a result the gov is shutting shit down again. I don’t like the government shutting shit down, I don’t like losing 1000s of dollars a month, I don’t like having zero social life... but I do these things to be a good citizen and to help do my part to get rid of this virus. But then the dickweeds like you go out and screw it all up. But your doing it in the name of freedom so you can feel good about yourself. No... fuck off. Your priorities are all screwed

People are always fucking dying, you dipshit drama queen. You know what the leading cause of death is? Birth, you dumbass.... Out of all the friends I made in 20 years in the Army, only 2 of them are still alive. Death is part of life; that isn't going to change just because you all strap maxi-pads to your faces.
And the government can't shut down shit if you all just ignore them you dumb fuck..... quit going along with everything everyone tells you to, all the time. Learn to say; "No." already, it's not that hard.
You aren't doing this to be a good citizen, you're doing it because you're too scared and weak not to. And then you attack everyone else who refuses to play these stupid games because it reminds you of how you, yourself are too gutless to stand up for yourself and that makes you angry and resentful. So you attack anyone who hasn't been gelded yet, like you have.

My, my, if I ever read a comment to the BikerSailorDude, that was so way off fucking mark this is it.

"People are always fucking dying, you dipshit drama queen. You know what the leading cause of death is? Birth, you dumbass.... Out of all the friends I made in 20 years in the Army, only 2 of them are still alive. Death is part of life; that isn't going to change just because you all strap maxi-pads to your faces.
And the government can't shut down shit if you all just ignore them you dumb fuck..... quit going along with everything everyone tells you to, all the time. Learn to say; "No." already, it's not that hard.
You aren't doing this to be a good citizen, you're doing it because you're too scared and weak not to. And then you attack everyone else who refuses to play these stupid games because it reminds you of how you, yourself are too gutless to stand up for yourself and that makes you angry and resentful. So you attack anyone who hasn't been gelded yet, like you have."

Just wear a mask and be done with it. Besides, you have bad breath. Just wait and see. Put one on and you'll smell.

And I eat breath mints constantly; I'm a cigar smoker.

 

[Nosmo King]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Does anyone have the right to force me to? If a private business wants to deny me service and ask me to leave, that's fine; their business, their choice.
But no one has any authority to demand I wear a mask.... or a yellow arm band with a star of David, or anything else.
I've seen this movie before; I didn't like the way it ended.

So you actually believe that your personal freedom not to wear a mask outweighs, on the scale of morality, the duty to mitigate ampandemic? Justify the virtue in that!

 

[Nosmo King]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Non sequitur.

No. You comply with those other public health requirements but not mask wearing. You are accustomed to wearing shirts and shoes in stores. Not smoking in restaurants. But you are not so accustomed to wearing a face mask. Even though you know it's a matter of public hygiene and mitigating a pandemic, you chose to slather it in partisan politics and false machismo. Why?

It's not partisan politics....It's technocratic tyrants who haven't been right from day one about anything bossing everyone around, and good little lemming supplicants like you going all Karen on those of us who are fed up with their dictatorial bullshit.

....and the horse you rode in on.

You eschew science to justify basically selfish behavior. Why should that be respected?

 

[Oddball]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Does anyone have the right to force me to? If a private business wants to deny me service and ask me to leave, that's fine; their business, their choice.
But no one has any authority to demand I wear a mask.... or a yellow arm band with a star of David, or anything else.
I've seen this movie before; I didn't like the way it ended.

So you actually believe that your personal freedom not to wear a mask outweighs, on the scale of morality, the duty to mitigate ampandemic? Justify the virtue in that!

There is ZERO evidence that masks are effective at mitigating anything.

But your virtue signal has been duly noted.

 

[Oddball]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Non sequitur.

No. You comply with those other public health requirements but not mask wearing. You are accustomed to wearing shirts and shoes in stores. Not smoking in restaurants. But you are not so accustomed to wearing a face mask. Even though you know it's a matter of public hygiene and mitigating a pandemic, you chose to slather it in partisan politics and false machismo. Why?

It's not partisan politics....It's technocratic tyrants who haven't been right from day one about anything bossing everyone around, and good little lemming supplicants like you going all Karen on those of us who are fed up with their dictatorial bullshit.

....and the horse you rode in on.

You eschew science to justify basically selfish behavior. Why should that be respected?

There is no fucking science....That's the whole rub.

So fuck you and your virtue beacon.

 

[Slade3200]

Wow, Freyasman sure got triggered.

Yeah, people like that piss me off.
The folks who just demand that everyone just go along, and do whatever the herd does, or else.
(SMH)

I truly do not get people like that..... where does that sort of attitude come from? In a country founded on freedom, why are there so many folks who feel entitled to coerce conformity from other people? Why are so many people so willing to make up nonsense and then demand that everyone else fall in and co-sign their bullshit?

Can someone explain that?

WTF, over?

Because people are fucking dying you dumbshit. Assholes like you are ignoring safety recommendations going out and partying and now we see cases spiking in those areas. Now as a result the gov is shutting shit down again. I don’t like the government shutting shit down, I don’t like losing 1000s of dollars a month, I don’t like having zero social life... but I do these things to be a good citizen and to help do my part to get rid of this virus. But then the dickweeds like you go out and screw it all up. But your doing it in the name of freedom so you can feel good about yourself. No... fuck off. Your priorities are all screwed

People are always fucking dying, you dipshit drama queen. You know what the leading cause of death is? Birth, you dumbass.... Out of all the friends I made in 20 years in the Army, only 2 of them are still alive. Death is part of life; that isn't going to change just because you all strap maxi-pads to your faces.
And the government can't shut down shit if you all just ignore them you dumb fuck..... quit going along with everything everyone tells you to, all the time. Learn to say; "No." already, it's not that hard.
You aren't doing this to be a good citizen, you're doing it because you're too scared and weak not to. And then you attack everyone else who refuses to play these stupid games because it reminds you of how you, yourself are too gutless to stand up for yourself and that makes you angry and resentful. So you attack anyone who hasn't been gelded yet, like you have.

I can’t read past your first sentence at the risk of being infected by your retardedness. Sorry.

people are always dying?! Really?! You think that is a relevant point??

Yeah, I do.
You don't?

Of course not... saying everybody dies is a cop out bullshit lazy response. When we can do something to prevent death and ease suffering, we do it. Sounds to me like your out of ammo saying stupid shit like that.

 

[Nosmo King]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Non sequitur.

No. You comply with those other public health requirements but not mask wearing. You are accustomed to wearing shirts and shoes in stores. Not smoking in restaurants. But you are not so accustomed to wearing a face mask. Even though you know it's a matter of public hygiene and mitigating a pandemic, you chose to slather it in partisan politics and false machismo. Why?

A lot of people don't think it makes a difference. But there is precedence. I remember when aids first became popular. Public health officials quickly determined that taking it in the Caboose was a principal vector for the disease.

Homosexuals refused to "Go Normative" and the aids pandemic continued- in fact to this day.

A lot of people said wearing a seatbelt wouldn't make much difference either. A lot of motorcyclists think not wearing a helmet makes much difference either. I guess it's true. If you don't think protecting your head is worth it, you're probably right.

So you chose to follow the foolishness of Gays instead, even though you concede that unsafe sex spread that virus! Can you see the flaw in whatever logic you're trying to use?

 

[freyasman]

People are always fucking dying, you dipshit drama queen. You know what the leading cause of death is? Birth, you dumbass.... Out of all the friends I made in 20 years in the Army, only 2 of them are still alive. Death is part of life; that isn't going to change just because you all strap maxi-pads to your faces.
And the government can't shut down shit if you all just ignore them you dumb fuck..... quit going along with everything everyone tells you to, all the time. Learn to say; "No." already, it's not that hard.
You aren't doing this to be a good citizen, you're doing it because you're too scared and weak not to. And then you attack everyone else who refuses to play these stupid games because it reminds you of how you, yourself are too gutless to stand up for yourself and that makes you angry and resentful. So you attack anyone who hasn't been gelded yet, like you have.

I'm curious, do you think the same number of people would die if people ignored all safety precautions?

The most important thing is to wash your hands; I can't believe how many people ignore that.

That may be true regarding the virus, although since it is now believed to be spread mainly as an airborne pathogen rather than a contact one, that actually may not be true. However, that doesn't answer my question. You seemed to be implying that precautions for COVID-19 aren't important because people die all the time. I wanted to know if you think that same logic applies to all precautionary measures people take, and if not, why not.

The masks are not a precaution; they do nothing but identify the livestock.
It's a brand.

Precautions are washing your hands and not hugging people.

 

[Polishprince]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Does anyone have the right to force me to? If a private business wants to deny me service and ask me to leave, that's fine; their business, their choice.
But no one has any authority to demand I wear a mask.... or a yellow arm band with a star of David, or anything else.
I've seen this movie before; I didn't like the way it ended.

So you actually believe that your personal freedom not to wear a mask outweighs, on the scale of morality, the duty to mitigate ampandemic? Justify the virtue in that!

A lot of people don't believe that a cloth mask mitigates a dam thing.

And neither did Tony Fauci last winter.

These so-called experts have been all over the board, changing their minds many times since this pandemic shit started 4 months ago. You can't be surprised that people are hesitating in obeying them at this point in time, can you?

 

[Slade3200]

Wow, Freyasman sure got triggered.

Yeah, people like that piss me off.
The folks who just demand that everyone just go along, and do whatever the herd does, or else.
(SMH)

I truly do not get people like that..... where does that sort of attitude come from? In a country founded on freedom, why are there so many folks who feel entitled to coerce conformity from other people? Why are so many people so willing to make up nonsense and then demand that everyone else fall in and co-sign their bullshit?

Can someone explain that?

WTF, over?

Because people are fucking dying you dumbshit. Assholes like you are ignoring safety recommendations going out and partying and now we see cases spiking in those areas. Now as a result the gov is shutting shit down again. I don’t like the government shutting shit down, I don’t like losing 1000s of dollars a month, I don’t like having zero social life... but I do these things to be a good citizen and to help do my part to get rid of this virus. But then the dickweeds like you go out and screw it all up. But your doing it in the name of freedom so you can feel good about yourself. No... fuck off. Your priorities are all screwed

People are always fucking dying, you dipshit drama queen. You know what the leading cause of death is? Birth, you dumbass.... Out of all the friends I made in 20 years in the Army, only 2 of them are still alive. Death is part of life; that isn't going to change just because you all strap maxi-pads to your faces.
And the government can't shut down shit if you all just ignore them you dumb fuck..... quit going along with everything everyone tells you to, all the time. Learn to say; "No." already, it's not that hard.
You aren't doing this to be a good citizen, you're doing it because you're too scared and weak not to. And then you attack everyone else who refuses to play these stupid games because it reminds you of how you, yourself are too gutless to stand up for yourself and that makes you angry and resentful. So you attack anyone who hasn't been gelded yet, like you have.

One more point... we would be passed this thing By now and not seeing it resurge if everybody would have worked together to squash it. It was the dipshits like you stubbornly standing up for your stupidity that is fucking it up for the rest of us. Nice work asshole

Oh bullshit.
I'm a workaholic who hardly noticed the lockdown because I don't get out and socialize much, how is this shit on me?
I guess you didn't notice all the protests and riots?

I did notice the protests and riots.... all those assholes crowding together spreading this shit are just as idiotic as you. Bunch of selfish wreckless asshole. Looks like you found your ILK

 

[Nosmo King]

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Non sequitur.

No. You comply with those other public health requirements but not mask wearing. You are accustomed to wearing shirts and shoes in stores. Not smoking in restaurants. But you are not so accustomed to wearing a face mask. Even though you know it's a matter of public hygiene and mitigating a pandemic, you chose to slather it in partisan politics and false machismo. Why?

It's not partisan politics....It's technocratic tyrants who haven't been right from day one about anything bossing everyone around, and good little lemming supplicants like you going all Karen on those of us who are fed up with their dictatorial bullshit.

....and the horse you rode in on.

You eschew science to justify basically selfish behavior. Why should that be respected?

There is no fucking science....That's the whole rub.

So fuck you and your virtue beacon.

Perhaps if you took the time to read an article or watch a news report on anything other than Fox News, you would hear from epidemiologists and public health experts. This isn't medieval times anynlonger. We had the Age of Enlightenment and today, believe it or not, there is such a thing as science. It's like magic, only real.

 

[Slade3200]

Wow, Freyasman sure got triggered.

Yeah, people like that piss me off.
The folks who just demand that everyone just go along, and do whatever the herd does, or else.
(SMH)

I truly do not get people like that..... where does that sort of attitude come from? In a country founded on freedom, why are there so many folks who feel entitled to coerce conformity from other people? Why are so many people so willing to make up nonsense and then demand that everyone else fall in and co-sign their bullshit?

Can someone explain that?

WTF, over?

Because people are fucking dying you dumbshit. Assholes like you are ignoring safety recommendations going out and partying and now we see cases spiking in those areas. Now as a result the gov is shutting shit down again. I don’t like the government shutting shit down, I don’t like losing 1000s of dollars a month, I don’t like having zero social life... but I do these things to be a good citizen and to help do my part to get rid of this virus. But then the dickweeds like you go out and screw it all up. But your doing it in the name of freedom so you can feel good about yourself. No... fuck off. Your priorities are all screwed

People are always fucking dying, you dipshit drama queen. You know what the leading cause of death is? Birth, you dumbass.... Out of all the friends I made in 20 years in the Army, only 2 of them are still alive. Death is part of life; that isn't going to change just because you all strap maxi-pads to your faces.
And the government can't shut down shit if you all just ignore them you dumb fuck..... quit going along with everything everyone tells you to, all the time. Learn to say; "No." already, it's not that hard.
You aren't doing this to be a good citizen, you're doing it because you're too scared and weak not to. And then you attack everyone else who refuses to play these stupid games because it reminds you of how you, yourself are too gutless to stand up for yourself and that makes you angry and resentful. So you attack anyone who hasn't been gelded yet, like you have.

My, my, if I ever read a comment to the BikerSailorDude, that was so way off fucking mark this is it.

"People are always fucking dying, you dipshit drama queen. You know what the leading cause of death is? Birth, you dumbass.... Out of all the friends I made in 20 years in the Army, only 2 of them are still alive. Death is part of life; that isn't going to change just because you all strap maxi-pads to your faces.
And the government can't shut down shit if you all just ignore them you dumb fuck..... quit going along with everything everyone tells you to, all the time. Learn to say; "No." already, it's not that hard.
You aren't doing this to be a good citizen, you're doing it because you're too scared and weak not to. And then you attack everyone else who refuses to play these stupid games because it reminds you of how you, yourself are too gutless to stand up for yourself and that makes you angry and resentful. So you attack anyone who hasn't been gelded yet, like you have."

Just wear a mask and be done with it. Besides, you have bad breath. Just wait and see. Put one on and you'll smell.

Fuck.... another lemming racing for the cliffs edge.

(SMH)

Stop SYH and put on a mask. It's not about you for once in your life.

If wearing a mask isn't a big deal then why is NOT wearing one?

Your question is the perfect example of your stupidity

 

[freyasman]

I

Not me....In Wisconsin...State Supreme Court bitch slapped our know-nothing moonbat governor.

And no, I wouldn't be complying....I'd claim athsma or incipient emphysema and demand my rights under the ADA.

Do you have the right to enter a store without shoes or a shirt? Do you have the right to fire up a cigar in a McDonald's? In an elevator? A hospital?

Does anyone have the right to force me to? If a private business wants to deny me service and ask me to leave, that's fine; their business, their choice.
But no one has any authority to demand I wear a mask.... or a yellow arm band with a star of David, or anything else.
I've seen this movie before; I didn't like the way it ended.

So you actually believe that your personal freedom not to wear a mask outweighs, on the scale of morality, the duty to mitigate ampandemic? Justify the virtue in that!

I don't have to justify anything because I am not demanding anything from anyone.
If you want to compel me to do something you better have a better reason than because a bunch of fucktards are all doing it.

It doesn't help..... do you not get that?