Here is why Americans socialists hope to emulate Hitler.

[JoeB131]

JoeB131 You are the captain of your fate. Bigot. Do you understand the meaning?

Nope.

I don't believe that you can be a religious bigot. Religion at the end of the day is a choice.

You either have a religious point of view or you don't.

Either Joseph Smith was talking to God (unlikely) or he was a too bit con-artist who wanted to **** teenage girls and other men's wives (very likely).

 

[Robert W]

Either Joseph Smith was talking to God (unlikely) or he was a too bit con-artist who wanted to **** teenage girls and other men's wives (very likely).

You are such a Bigot you really think in the same way Hitler thought.
I know for a fact you don't understand or know about Joseph Smith. We do not worship living humans. In fact we only worship Jesus Christ and GOD. Worship as I define it is pay ultimate respect.

Smith did not tell anybody he talked to GOD. Joseph Smiths story is he was only religious at the time of his childhood attending some church with his family.
He was not looking as a kid of 17 for more than to find out if there was a true religion or not.
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Joseph Smith was 17 years old when he claimed the angel Moroni appeared to him. This event is said to have occurred on September 21, 1823.

Moroni's visits were more than 200 years ago. See Church News articles, podcast episode and videos about the event. It was the evening of Sept. 21, 1823, when 17-year-old Joseph Smith humbly prayed for forgiveness and understanding of his place before God.

 

[JoeB131]

You are such a Bigot you really think in the same way Hitler thought.
I know for a fact you don't understand or know about Joseph Smith. We do not worship living humans. In fact we only worship Jesus Christ and GOD. Worship as I define it is pay ultimate respect.

Um, okay, not the point I was making, but you do you.

Smith did not tell anybody he talked to GOD. Joseph Smiths story is he was only religious at the time of his childhood attending some church with his family.

Actually, Smith said he talked to Moroni, Jesus or God at various points.

 

[Failzero]

Um, okay, not the point I was making, but you do you.




Actually, Smith said he talked to Moroni, Jesus or God at various points.

Muhammad ( The Prophet ) had hallucinations in a cave that led directly to the Koran

 

[JoeB131]

Muhammad ( The Prophet ) had hallucinations in a cave that led directly to the Koran

Possibly.

Jesus may have also been mentally ill.

But those were so long ago, who knows for sure.

Joseph Smith's fraud can be documented in real time.

I kind of think Smith was like David Koresh or Jim Jones. they found religion to be a easy scam until they started believing their own bullshit.

 

[Failzero]

Possibly.

Jesus may have also been mentally ill.

But those were so long ago, who knows for sure.

Joseph Smith's fraud can be documented in real time.

I kind of think Smith was like David Koresh or Jim Jones. they found religion to be an easy scam until they started believing their own bullshit.

Karl Marx was a schizophrenic

 

[Crepitus]

Trump and MAGA are the enemies.

Of America, of society, of everything.

 

[JoeB131]

Karl Marx was a schizophrenic

Very possibly.

A lot of famous people suffered from mental illness.
Lincoln probably suffered from depression.

 

[Failzero]

Of America, of society, of everything.

Of America hating Society and of Socialism

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

First issue. Authoritarian rule. We must face this fact. Democrats are true authoritarians. Democrats, such as Bernie Sanders, promote socialism. Few Democrats despise socialism. Talk to them and they always praise it. Claim is it works in Scandanivia. They will pick countries who they think are socialist and by golly tell you how fine they are. Republicans never do this. And that is a major conflict among Democrats and we Republicans. We want Government out of your business. We love the Constitution but what did it do to Government. It was designed to keep Government out of your business. It was not set up as a socialist state.

They know Hitler was a socialist yet tell you he was not. Why defend Hitler?

Some of Hitler's benefits will prove he was a socialist.

This bit does not mention Hitlers free health care. Free vacations. It does mention stoking national pride. But by being Socialist.

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Under Hitler, Germany saw significant economic benefits through a combination of public works programs, rearmament, and a shift in economic policies. The Nazis implemented large-scale public works projects like building the autobahn and creating new jobs in various industries, including the military. This led to reduced unemployment and boosted the German economy.

Economic Benefits:

• Reduced Unemployment:
  Public works programs and rearmament efforts led to a significant decrease in unemployment, creating jobs in construction, industry, and the military.
  
  
• Economic Growth:
  The Nazis' spending on public works and rearmament stimulated economic growth and helped to improve living standards for some segments of the population.
  
  
• Profitability for Companies:
  The increased demand for goods and services related to public works and rearmament led to increased profits for major industrial companies.
  
  
• Infrastructure Development:
  The autobahn project and other public works initiatives improved infrastructure and facilitated transportation.

Social and Psychological Impact:

• Increased Social Cohesion:
  The economic successes under the Nazis, particularly the reduction in unemployment, helped to increase social cohesion and support for the regime.
  
  
• National Pride:
  The economic achievements and military buildup fostered a sense of national pride and a belief in the strength of the Nazi state.

Thank you for that shameless screed of Nazi propaganda. Heir Goebbels would be proud. Now we know exactly who and what you are. I will add that to say that Americans socialists hope to emulate Hitler is highly offensive and irresponsible . It is the sort of rhetoric that makes it impossible to have a productive and civil discussion in this country. You should be ashamed of yourself but I doubt that you have the intellectual capacity, self-awareness or emotional maturity to understand why



It is clear that you either have an abysmal understanding of Socialism, Authoritarianism as well as Hitlers legacy -or- you are a liar who willfully misrepresents reality. In any case you fail on all three counts.

You’re first lie is that Democratic Socialists like Sanders are the authoritarians . All socialism is not equal

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No, socialism is not inherently authoritarian. Democratic socialism, a significant branch of socialism, emphasizes democratic processes and values, contrasting with authoritarian socialism, which might suppress dissent or individual freedoms in the name of socialist goals. Socialism as a broad concept encompasses various forms, including market-based socialism and non-market socialism, with the degree of state control and individual freedom varying greatly between these different models.

Here's a more detailed look:

Democratic Socialism:

• This form emphasizes democratic control of the economy and society, aiming for equality and meeting the needs of all.
• It often advocates for social justice, workers' rights, and public services, while respecting individual freedoms and democratic processes.
• Examples include the "social democratic parties" in many European countries.

Authoritarian Socialism:

• This form, also known as "socialism from above," rejects political pluralism and may suppress dissent or individual freedoms in pursuit of socialist goals.
• It is often characterized by a centralized state, limited political freedoms, and a focus on planned economic development.
• Examples include some historical socialist states, such as the Soviet Union, where a single-party system governed and suppressed opposition.

The authoritarians in this country right now are those who are:

Banning books,​

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Trying to shut down or control the news media, and stifling all criticism,​

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Dictating what gender people can identify as​

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Denying food and medicine to the needy while coddling the wealthy,​

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Vilifying and dehumanizing migrants while unleashing a reign of terror on them , and treating all political opposition as the enemy. Bernie Sanders does none of that but I’ll bet you know who does.​

As far as Hitler is concerned , if he was a socialist at all, he was an example of an authoritarian socialist.

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While the Nazi Party's official name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party, and it implemented some policies that might be considered socialist in nature,

Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party were not socialists in the traditional sense.

Here's why:

1. Nazi Ideology was fundamentally Anti-Socialist:

• Rejection of Marxist Socialism: The Nazis fiercely opposed Marxist socialism and communism, which advocate for international worker solidarity and the abolition of private property, according to DW.
• Extreme Nationalism and Racial Purity: Nazism was based on extreme nationalism and the belief in a superior "Aryan" race, incompatible with the internationalist and egalitarian principles of socialism
• Suppression of Left-Wing Parties and Labor Unions: The Nazis eliminated socialist and communist parties, banned trade unions, and persecuted their members.

2. Nazi Policies Contradicted Core Socialist Principles:

• Preservation of Capitalism: Despite the name, the Nazis largely maintained a capitalist economy, albeit one heavily regulated and controlled by the state.
• Private Property: While private property was regulated and could be expropriated, it was not abolished, and many businesses remained in private hands, especially those considered "Aryan".
• Inequality and Hierarchy: Nazism promoted a rigid social hierarchy and inequality based on race and social status, contradicting socialist ideals of equality.

3. The "Socialist" in the Party's Name was Largely Propaganda:

• Attracting Working-Class Voters: The term "socialist" was used in the party's name to appeal to working-class voters who might have been attracted to socialist ideas but were also susceptible to nationalist and anti-Semitic sentiments.
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• No Genuine Commitment to Socialist Values: Hitler and most Nazi leaders did not genuinely embrace socialist values, and the party's socialist elements were largely abandoned or purged once the Nazis gained power.

Sounds a lot like Trump and his moronic MAGA minions and their phony populist "fpr the people bullshit that you morons fell for .

 

[HikerGuy83]

that makes it impossible to have a productive and civil discussion in this country.

So why are you still typing?

 

[BothWings]

All of that applies to Trump et al.

All of that applies to New World Order government/corporate hybrid entities ala Obama.

 

[HikerGuy83]

All of that applies to Trump et al.

All of what?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

All of that applies to New World Order government/corporate hybrid entities ala Obama.

New World Order government/corporate entities.

How Many Billionaires Are in Trump's Administration ...​

U.S. News & World Report
https://www.usnews.com › News › National News
The total net worth of the billionaires in the Trump administration, as of June 4, equals at least $450 billion – which is more than the GDP of 175 different countries.

President Donald Trump – who campaigned on a promise to “rescue our middle class” and champion the everyday American – has surrounded himself with at least a dozen billionaires tasked with shaping his administration and running the federal government.

The sheer concentration of ultra-wealthy individuals in Trump’s inner circle marks one of the starkest contrasts between campaign rhetoric and governing reality.

Among the billionaires are notable figures like Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Secretary of Education Linda McMahon and Interior Secretary Doug Burgum.

Though Musk’s official role as head of the Department of Government Efficiency has come to an end, Trump said he plans to keep Musk as an advisor.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

All of that applies to New World Order government/corporate hybrid entities ala Obama.

ala Trump and Obama

 

[Paradoxical#1]

New World Order government/corporate entities.

How Many Billionaires Are in Trump's Administration ...​

View attachment 1128290
U.S. News & World Report
https://www.usnews.com › News › National News
The total net worth of the billionaires in the Trump administration, as of June 4, equals at least $450 billion – which is more than the GDP of 175 different countries.

President Donald Trump – who campaigned on a promise to “rescue our middle class” and champion the everyday American – has surrounded himself with at least a dozen billionaires tasked with shaping his administration and running the federal government.

The sheer concentration of ultra-wealthy individuals in Trump’s inner circle marks one of the starkest contrasts between campaign rhetoric and governing reality.

Among the billionaires are notable figures like Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Secretary of Education Linda McMahon and Interior Secretary Doug Burgum.

Though Musk’s official role as head of the Department of Government Efficiency has come to an end, Trump said he plans to keep Musk as an advisor.

So?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So?

The New World Order is the Billionaire's Club World, Paradoxical#1.

 

[Robert W]

New World Order government/corporate entities.

How Many Billionaires Are in Trump's Administration ...​

View attachment 1128290
U.S. News & World Report
https://www.usnews.com › News › National News
The total net worth of the billionaires in the Trump administration, as of June 4, equals at least $450 billion – which is more than the GDP of 175 different countries.

President Donald Trump – who campaigned on a promise to “rescue our middle class” and champion the everyday American – has surrounded himself with at least a dozen billionaires tasked with shaping his administration and running the federal government.

The sheer concentration of ultra-wealthy individuals in Trump’s inner circle marks one of the starkest contrasts between campaign rhetoric and governing reality.

Among the billionaires are notable figures like Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Secretary of Education Linda McMahon and Interior Secretary Doug Burgum.

Though Musk’s official role as head of the Department of Government Efficiency has come to an end, Trump said he plans to keep Musk as an advisor.

So far as Billionaires are concerned, to the vast population of the USA we see them like they won the academy awards. Life for all of us is far better than had poor people ran the show.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

So?

WOW.

Trump REALLY loves you.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

The New World Order is the Billionaire's Club World, Paradoxical#1.

If this is the new world order, as the McDonalds commercial goes:

I'm luvin it.

No more DEI, illegals, globalism, other countries shitting on us. No more of this nonsensical green energy hysteria and the DOE telling everyone what to drive and how to heat and cool their homes. No more weak master puppeteers behind the scenes appeasing Iran, Germany, France.

Give me another Big Mac