Juneteenth: Sorry, no deal

[bodecea]

I thought this was “Pride” Month?

Now we’re celebrating rating a white man’s proclamation?

How many black holidays do we need? Is anyone unaware that there used to be slaves?

Obama's ancestors were not.

And?

 

[bodecea]

We should always remember the lengths the democrat party went to to keep their black slaves

The Southern Democrats or Grant the Union general? Both of those had slaves.

Just remember this. Today it's 14 Republicans who voted against black people.

The House overwhelmingly passed the Juneteenth National Independence Day Act on Wednesday by a vote of 415 to 14, sending the legislation to President Joe Biden’s desk and putting the nation on the cusp of establishing a federal holiday marking the end of slavery.

If signed by Biden, the day will be the first new national holiday since Martin Luther King Jr. Day was established in 1983.

SIGNED!

 

[bodecea]

What federal holidays should we have for March and April?

Hello? St. Patrick's Day!

Except it isn't a federal holiday.......

 

[bodecea]

What federal holidays should we have for March and April?

Hello? St. Patrick's Day!

making a religious holiday a federal holiday might enrage the left, they already want to cancel christmas

Christmas was canceled? When did that happen?

 

[Asclepias]

We should always remember the lengths the democrat party went to to keep their black slaves

The Southern Democrats or Grant the Union general? Both of those had slaves.

Just remember this. Today it's 14 Republicans who voted against black people.

The House overwhelmingly passed the Juneteenth National Independence Day Act on Wednesday by a vote of 415 to 14, sending the legislation to President Joe Biden’s desk and putting the nation on the cusp of establishing a federal holiday marking the end of slavery.

If signed by Biden, the day will be the first new national holiday since Martin Luther King Jr. Day was established in 1983.

This is all good but what will this actually do? I already celebrated Juneteenth without the approval of whites. Its not going to reverse the affects of centuries of slavery or the decades of systemic racism Black people have endured in this country. Is it just another "starting point"? If so a starting point for what?

 

[Moonglow]

We should always remember the lengths the democrat party went to to keep their black slaves

The Southern Democrats or Grant the Union general? Both of those had slaves.

Just remember this. Today it's 14 Republicans who voted against black people.

The House overwhelmingly passed the Juneteenth National Independence Day Act on Wednesday by a vote of 415 to 14, sending the legislation to President Joe Biden’s desk and putting the nation on the cusp of establishing a federal holiday marking the end of slavery.

If signed by Biden, the day will be the first new national holiday since Martin Luther King Jr. Day was established in 1983.

This is all good but what will this actually do? I already celebrated Juneteenth without the approval of whites. Its not going to reverse the affects of centuries of slavery or the decades of systemic racism Black people have endured in this country. Is it just another "starting point"? If so a starting point for what?

For a good party.

 

[MarcATL]

Sad state of affairs when America is just catering to the Lowest Common Denominator

Care to expound on this notion?

 

[Desperado]

Sad state of affairs when America is just catering to the Lowest Common Denominator

Care to expound on this notion?

If you can not understand than you are part of the LCD problem

 

[Unkotare]

We should always remember the lengths the democrat party went to to keep their black slaves

That's right never forget what the conservative whites did.

It always cracks me up when morons seem to think pointing out who was in what political party over one hundred years ago is somehow relevant to today.....

What're you, some kind of Bull Moose?

 

[Dadoalex]

The day now known as "Juneteenth," the 19th of June, 1865, is the day when it is believed enslaved people in Galveston, TX, received word that they had been freed by the Emancipation Proclamation of January 1, 1863. The proclamation reads, in pertinent part:

"That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free..."

But there are some significant problems with the Emancipation Proclamation. First of all, there is no such thing as a "proclamation," and it does not have the force of law, let alone the force of a Constitutional Amendment. It is about as meaningful as a Presidential "signing statement" would be today, to wit, it was/is a President stating how the Executive department will interpret and carry out a law. But of course the EP was not carrying out any law; it was contrary to both laws and the Constitution.

More importantly, the EP, had it been legally effective, would have been a clear and gross violation of the Fifth Amendment, which states that no one shall be "deprived of...property without due process of law." Unfortunately, the enslaved individuals were at the time "property," owned by their respective masters. The President had no more power to free slaves than he had to demand that American cattle farmers release their livestock onto the open range. In short, he didn't have that power, and had he tried to exercise it, the slave owners would have had to be compensated for the value of their lost property ("slavery reparations"?).

Parenthetically, the Emancipation does not even purport to free the slaves in the Border States of Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky and Missouri, because, perversely, the President acknowledged that he lacked the power to do so. In effect, he was telling The World that (a) the rebellion had no effect and the states in rebellion were actually still part of the United States, but (b) the Constitution did not apply in those states. Hmmm.

Suffice it to say that the enslaved people were effectively emancipated on December 6, 1865, with the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment.

What purpose does it serve to celebrate a date that had no legal meaning or status, rather than the actual date when the event occurred? Why not celebrate January 1 (1863); it has more legitimacy than June 19th. One suspects that it is merely one of a million examples of Leftist attempts to destroy our history by claiming that "What you have been taught all your life was WRONG!"

And now we have what? The Senate passes a bill that makes "Juneteenth" a national holiday - of which we already have far too many. If they are serious, they should think about de-holidizing Christmas, which if I'm not mistaken is a RELIGIOUS OCCASION that should not facilitate a government worker paid holiday.

War
Martial law in the rebellious territories
Order from the CiC during wartime applicable only in the war zones.

What's your problem again?

Legitimacy? First none then some?
In any case, to the people held in bondage who were freed on Juneteenth, the technicality of 1/1/63 had zero meaning.

Tell me, do you REALLY think Jesus was born on December 25th?
Do you REALLY think Jesus was put to death on the First Full Moon of Spring EVERY YEAR?

President's day has no relevance. No presidents were born on that date.
MLK birthday only hits on the holiday once every 4-5 years.

What say we trade the 4th of July for Juneteenth? Memorial day?
One people's freedom celebration for another?

 

[IM2]

Republicans authored and proposed the Corwin Amendment which would have made slavery constitutional. It passed congress but never got ratified. So republicans need to stop that disingenuous democrat slavery shit.

Which party ended slavery, and which party started a war to keep slavery?



Take your time.




Oh.....and which one do you vote for?

The Confederacy started the Civil War. I don't know what political parties they had in that country. Republicans got a proposal passed to make slavery constitutional. Understand that and shut the hell up.

 

[IM2]

Sad state of affairs when America is just catering to the Lowest Common Denominator

Care to expound on this notion?

If you can not understand than you are part of the LCD problem

America has catered to white racists since it started, so yes it is a sad state of affairs how America has always catered to the Lowest Common Denominator.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Republicans authored and proposed the Corwin Amendment which would have made slavery constitutional. It passed congress but never got ratified. So republicans need to stop that disingenuous democrat slavery shit.

Which party ended slavery, and which party started a war to keep slavery?



Take your time.




Oh.....and which one do you vote for?

Which members of either party who did those things are still alive? Better yet, which members of either party who did those things have CHILDREN that are still alive?

Do let us know their names.

Why, every Democrat votes in support of slavery to this very day.


An oldie but goodie for the Democrat Party, the party that started a war to make certain slavery remained.

On top of running on anti-white racism, now the elected slavers need to make certain that their voters can continue to profit from slavery.

"Democrats reject amendment requiring companies to disclose ties to Uyghur forced labor​

House Democrats voted against an amendment Wednesday that would have required companies to inform their shareholders if they engaged in activities with a Chinese official or company using forced labor.


The amendment, introduced by Kentucky Republican Rep. Andy Barr, would require companies to disclose to shareholders annually their activities with any “foreign entity” that “engages in, is responsible for, or facilitates the forced labor of Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, and members of other Muslim minority groups in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of China.”

“We must cut off offenders from the global economy until China changes course. We must rely on appeals to their bottom line, not their conscience,” Barr said on the House Floor.

The amendment included sanctions for foreign entities that used forced labor, built detention camps, or provided technology for mass surveillance in the Uyghur Autonomous Region. It also included sanctions for foreign entities that undermined democratic institutions in Hong Kong.

“If we are truly concerned by public companies who may be working with bad actors, particularly bad actors responsible for China’s worst human rights abuses, then burying their name on the SEC’s website will achieve absolutely nothing,” Barr said. “We need to ensure that they are referred to the Treasury Department so that we can impose sanctions.”

Democrats Reject Amendment Requiring Companies To Disclose Ties To Uyghur Forced Labor​

House Democrats rejected an amendment requiring companies to tell their shareholders if they engaged in activities with an entity using forced labor.

dailycaller.com




Republicans pried the slaves away from the Democrats once, but, as the saying goes.... You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy.

Slavery is in their blood.





It must give you a warm, secure feeling to know that I am always here to keep you up to date.


You're very welcome.

 

[marvin martian]

The day now known as "Juneteenth," the 19th of June, 1865, is the day when it is believed enslaved people in Galveston, TX, received word that they had been freed by the Emancipation Proclamation of January 1, 1863. The proclamation reads, in pertinent part:

"That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free..."

But there are some significant problems with the Emancipation Proclamation. First of all, there is no such thing as a "proclamation," and it does not have the force of law, let alone the force of a Constitutional Amendment. It is about as meaningful as a Presidential "signing statement" would be today, to wit, it was/is a President stating how the Executive department will interpret and carry out a law. But of course the EP was not carrying out any law; it was contrary to both laws and the Constitution.

More importantly, the EP, had it been legally effective, would have been a clear and gross violation of the Fifth Amendment, which states that no one shall be "deprived of...property without due process of law." Unfortunately, the enslaved individuals were at the time "property," owned by their respective masters. The President had no more power to free slaves than he had to demand that American cattle farmers release their livestock onto the open range. In short, he didn't have that power, and had he tried to exercise it, the slave owners would have had to be compensated for the value of their lost property ("slavery reparations"?).

Parenthetically, the Emancipation does not even purport to free the slaves in the Border States of Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky and Missouri, because, perversely, the President acknowledged that he lacked the power to do so. In effect, he was telling The World that (a) the rebellion had no effect and the states in rebellion were actually still part of the United States, but (b) the Constitution did not apply in those states. Hmmm.

Suffice it to say that the enslaved people were effectively emancipated on December 6, 1865, with the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment.

What purpose does it serve to celebrate a date that had no legal meaning or status, rather than the actual date when the event occurred? Why not celebrate January 1 (1863); it has more legitimacy than June 19th. One suspects that it is merely one of a million examples of Leftist attempts to destroy our history by claiming that "What you have been taught all your life was WRONG!"

And now we have what? The Senate passes a bill that makes "Juneteenth" a national holiday - of which we already have far too many. If they are serious, they should think about de-holidizing Christmas, which if I'm not mistaken is a RELIGIOUS OCCASION that should not facilitate a government worker paid holiday.

DemoKKKrats create a holiday to commemorate the occasion when Republicans took the slaves away from the DemoKKKrats. LOL, you can't make this up...

 

[MarcATL]

It always cracks me up when morons seem to think pointing out who was in what political party over one hundred years ago is somehow relevant to today.....

Especially since it was them!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Republicans authored and proposed the Corwin Amendment which would have made slavery constitutional. It passed congress but never got ratified. So republicans need to stop that disingenuous democrat slavery shit.

Which party ended slavery, and which party started a war to keep slavery?



Take your time.




Oh.....and which one do you vote for?

The Confederacy started the Civil War. I don't know what political parties they had in that country. Republicans got a proposal passed to make slavery constitutional. Understand that and shut the hell up.

"The Confederacy started the Civil War. I don't know what political parties they had in that country."

You need my help????

A conservative is never so tall as when she stoops to teach a Liberal.....

Jefferson Davis​

Former President of the Confederate States of America

Political party	Democratic

Which party ended slavery, and which party started a war to keep slavery?



Take your time.




Oh.....and which one do you vote for?

 

[Desperado]

Sad state of affairs when America is just catering to the Lowest Common Denominator

Care to expound on this notion?

If you can not understand than you are part of the LCD problem

America has catered to white racists since it started, so yes it is a sad state of affairs how America has always catered to the Lowest Common Denominator.

Nice try but America has bent over backwards to help your people to no avail. Even with lowering the qualifications and affirmative action your 13%of the population has not improved much if at all.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It always cracks me up when morons seem to think pointing out who was in what political party over one hundred years ago is somehow relevant to today.....

Especially since it was them!

The Democrat Party is and has always been racist.....


Did you vote for this rapist/racist???



Not only was the Democrat Party the home of slavers, segregationists, the Jim Crow folks, and the KKK....but the folks who try to lie their way out of the stain that attaches to all Democrats by claiming that it all changed in the 1960's, and the Democrats reversed themselves....

Clinton proves otherwise.

His 40 or so years as Democrat, up to and including the fact that he is so popular to Democrats that he was given the keynote speech at Obama's 2012 convention....

...and for his entire political life he has been a racist.





....an attempt to claim that the current Democratic Party is the party of slavery and segregation based on the fallacious argument that if people who called themselves Democrats 100 years ago,

or 50 years ago, or anytime in the past, were racists and segregationists,

then anyone who is part of the CURRENT Democratic Party must be guilty of the same."







2. Now, "Democrats 100 years ago, or 50 years ago..." doesn't seem fair...it was so long ago....


Was it?

a. Dixiecrats lost in 1948 (65 years ago)....then went right back to being Democrats.

3. Let's take a look at the most popular Democrat today, and see how your math holds up...

1. 
   
   a. Governor Clinton was among three state officials the NAACP sued in 1989 under the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965. “Plaintiffs offered plenty of proof of monolithic voting along racial lines, intimidation of black voters and candidates and other official acts that made voting harder for blacks,” the Arkansas Gazette reported December 6, 1989.
   
   
   
   
   b. Bill Clinton had a Confederate flag-like issue, every year he was governor: 1979-1992 Arkansas Code Annotated, Section 1-5-107, provides as follows:
   
   (a) The Saturday immediately preceding Easter Sunday of each year is designated as ‘Confederate Flag Day’ in this state.
   
   (b) No person, firm, or corporation shall display an Confederate flag or replica thereof in connection with any advertisement of any commercial enterprise, or in any manner for any purpose except to honor the Confederate States of America. [Emphasis added.]
   
   (c) Any person, firm, or corporation violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not less than one hundred dollars ($100) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
   
   Bill Clinton took no steps during his twelve years as governor to repeal this law.
   Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy | The Gateway Pundit

Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

This blogpost now has sound…** Listen Here ** Here is a photo from Confederate Flag Day in Arkansas…State Capital in Little Rock, Arkansas, April 15, 2006.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

[Let's Stop Pretending the Confederate Flag Isn't a Symbol of RacismJust to refresh everyone's memories, we're talking about the official national flag that was used to represent the Confederate States of America during the Civil War. You know, that awkward time period when the South was vehemently fighting to keep slavery around as a means of economic prosperity for white plantation owners.

I've heard arguments time and again about how the Confederate flag is no longer representative of slavery, and how it's now indicative of "Southern pride and heritage." But I'm really over the whole "respect your heritage" mantra, especially when your heritage is hate.

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Gee....'til 1992,....

1. Governor Clinton invited Orval Faubus to his inauguration and they exchanged an almost South American abrazo, embrace, http://www.booknotes.org/Watch/72551-1/Paul+Greenberg.aspx

Governor Orval Faubus, progressive New Deal Democrat, blocked the schoolhouse door to the Little Rock Central High School with the state’s National Guard rather than allow nine black students to attend.

1. Clinton’s mentor was J. William Fulbright, a vehement foe of integration who had voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Orval Eugene Faubus, attended Bill Clinton’s 1979 gubernatorial inauguration, where the two pols hugged, as Arkansas Democrat-Gazette editorial page editor Paul Greenberg recalls.)
Know who Faubus was?
Yup...he used the National Guard to prevent blacks from going to school



c. Bill Clinton wrote his first letter, dated June 21, 1994, of congratulations to the UDC [Untied Daughters of the Confederacy] celebrating their 100th anniversary. Later Clinton wrote a letter September 8, 1994 letter of congratulation to the Georgia Division of the UDC celebrating their 100th anniversary, then August 9, 1995 welcoming to Washington, D.C. for their 1995 national convention. Each letter was given a full page with Clinton’s picture in the United Daughters of the Confederacy Magazine (UDC Magazine) giving legitimacy to the UDC.

For reference, the UDC magazine includes " a Ku Klux Klan praising book, not just the Klan of Reconstruction but the Klan of the 1920s, a book which recommends the racist books of Thomas Dixon, “The Clansman” ...
Anti-Neo-Confederate: Bill Clinton Enables Neo-Confederates & Betrays Carol Moseley-Braun: UPDATED

Gee....that's 18 years ago....



d. "Clinton praised Arkansas’ late Democratic senator J. William Fulbright, a notorious segregationist who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. He also signed the Southern Manifesto, which denounced the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark Brown vs. Board of Education school desegregation decision in 1954. Clinton called Fulbright “My mentor, a visionary, a humanitarian.”Dems Need to Houseclean - Deroy Murdock - National Review Online

and....

Fulbright was a full-bore segregationist, voting against the 1957, 1960, 1964, and 1965 civil rights bills.
But...in 1993, Bill Clinton gave the Medal of Freedom award to a lifelong segregationist, Democrat Wm. J. Fulbright. And another life-long segregationist, Democrat Albert Gore, Sr. was in attendance.

20 years ago.


Hey...didn't Bill Clinton just recently speak at the Democrat National Convention?



2012.

That wasn't "50 or 100" years ago....was it?

__________________

… President Bill Clinton

argued that Colin Powell, promoted

to brigadier general during Mr.

Alexander’s tenure, was the product

of an affirmative action program.

http://cdn.virtuallearningcourses.com/ivtcontent/images/edw12_ch05_e.pdf

'BILL CLINTON: IN PAST, OBAMA WOULD BE 'CARRYING OUR BAGS'

Bill Clinton: In Past, Obama Would Be 'Carrying Our Bags'

If Obama so desperately wants examples of racist rhetoric being cast against him, there's none better than what Bill Clinton said of him only a few short years ago."

www.breitbart.com

You voted him, huh?


You're quite the fool, aren't you.

 

[IM2]

Republicans authored and proposed the Corwin Amendment which would have made slavery constitutional. It passed congress but never got ratified. So republicans need to stop that disingenuous democrat slavery shit.

Which party ended slavery, and which party started a war to keep slavery?



Take your time.




Oh.....and which one do you vote for?

The Confederacy started the Civil War. I don't know what political parties they had in that country. Republicans got a proposal passed to make slavery constitutional. Understand that and shut the hell up.

"The Confederacy started the Civil War. I don't know what political parties they had in that country."

You need my help????

A conservative is never so tall as when she stoops to teach a Liberal.....

Jefferson Davis​

Former President of the Confederate States of America
View attachment 502540

Political party	Democratic

Which party ended slavery, and which party started a war to keep slavery?



Take your time.




Oh.....and which one do you vote for?

The confederacy was a different country, they did not have American political parties.

What party flies confederate flags and supports the memory of the confederacy today?

Your party.

 

[theHawk]

We should always remember the lengths the democrat party went to to keep their black slaves

The Southern Democrats or Grant the Union general? Both of those had slaves.

Just remember this. Today it's 14 Republicans who voted against black people.

The House overwhelmingly passed the Juneteenth National Independence Day Act on Wednesday by a vote of 415 to 14, sending the legislation to President Joe Biden’s desk and putting the nation on the cusp of establishing a federal holiday marking the end of slavery.

If signed by Biden, the day will be the first new national holiday since Martin Luther King Jr. Day was established in 1983.

SIGNED!

When do gays get a federal holiday?

what about emancipation day?

LatinX day?