Judge slaps down Florida effort to ban abortion ad: ‘It’s the first amendment, stupid’

[OKTexas]

I wasn’t aware you wanted the government to determine what is and isn’t true.

I sure didn’t know you wanted the government to criminally prosecute people who say things you’re deemed to be untrue.

The problem is you don’t understand how the first amendment won’t let you do that.

Poor little hypocrite, how about you explain what prosecutor is involved in this story.

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[martybegan]

Yep. And were in the right.

So you are OK with lying as long as your side is doing it. Got it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So you are OK with lying as long as your side is doing it. Got it.

Correct, you are. I don't think you're in a spot to lecture anyone about that.

And the ad didn't lie. The law is too vague. DeDantis knows it's a garbage law. It's theater for his base, which he sees as too stupid to understand.

That's what DeSantis thinks of you.

 

[Marener]

LOLOLOLOLOL

Dems do it all the fucking time, they actually carried through with it on Trump.

The fuck they do. Trump isn’t in trouble for political speech. He’s in trouble for trying to steal an election.

 

[Marener]

Poor little hypocrite, how about you explain what prosecutor is involved in this story.

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Funny you should ask because we are going to be peeling back the layers of corruption in DeSantis’s administration.

It came from the top.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/media/florida-desantis-threaten-tv-stations-abortion-ad/index.html

 

[martybegan]

Correct, you are. I don't think you're in a spot to lecture anyone about that.

And the ad didn't lie. The law is too vague. DeDantis knows it's a garbage law. It's theater for his base, which he sees as too stupid to understand.

That's what DeSantis thinks of you.

They didn't claim the law was vague, they said it prevented something it doesn't prevent.

Meanwhile NY's abortion law allows abortion to the last second, regardless of the viability of the fetus, as long as 1 doctor says the woman's health is at risk.

And it doesn't define at all what "health at risk" means.

 

[martybegan]

Correct, you are. I don't think you're in a spot to lecture anyone about that.

And the ad didn't lie. The law is too vague. DeDantis knows it's a garbage law. It's theater for his base, which he sees as too stupid to understand.

That's what DeSantis thinks of you.

And as a follow up, here is the actual letter.



Their concern appears to be women might believe the advertisement and not seek medical attention.

It clearly shows the method for getting an abortion after 6 weeks, and that prior review is waived in an emergency situation.

 

[OKTexas]

But But arent lies protected ? You people are so confused.

Political speech is protected, political lies intended to defraud the voters, I don't think so. And it's way past time we get a SCOTUS ruling on the matter. I hope FL appeals this ruling all the way. It won't change anything for this election,, but hopefully it will in the future.

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[OKTexas]

Funny you should ask because we are going to be peeling back the layers of corruption in DeSantis’s administration.

It came from the top.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/media/florida-desantis-threaten-tv-stations-abortion-ad/index.html

Note to the clueless, the Dept of Health doesn't have prosecutors.

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[Marener]

Note to the clueless, the Dept of Health doesn't have prosecutors.

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The DoH were the puppets. It came from the meatball himself.

 

[martybegan]

Political speech is protected, political lies intended to defraud the voters, I don't think so. And it's way past time we get a SCOTUS ruling on the matter. I hope FL appeals this ruling all the way. It won't change anything for this election,, but hopefully it will in the future.

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If you read the letter I linked, the concern is also that women would avoid medical care in Florida thinking they couldn't get it due to the advertisement.

 

[OKTexas]

The DoH were the puppets. It came from the meatball himself.

He doesn't have prosecutors either.

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[OKTexas]

If you read the letter I linked, the concern is also that women would avoid medical care in Florida thinking they couldn't get it due to the advertisement.

Yep, it's a fraud on every level, but that's nothing new for commies. They're running an ad here is TX claiming it was Trumps fault for a hospital not having the proper instruments on hand. That's malpractices on the part of the hospital and no ones fault theirs.

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[Marener]

He doesn't have prosecutors either.

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The general counsel for Florida says they do.

 

[Marener]

Yep, it's a fraud on every level, but that's nothing new for commies. They're running an ad here is TX claiming it was Trumps fault for a hospital not having the proper instruments on hand. That's malpractices on the part of the hospital and no ones fault theirs.

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Define fraud and how the ad constitutes fraud.

 

[konradv]

Yep, it's a fraud on every level, but that's nothing new for commies. They're running an ad here is TX claiming it was Trumps fault for a hospital not having the proper instruments on hand. That's malpractices on the part of the hospital and no ones fault theirs.

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Maybe they didn’t want to have “murder weapons” around.

#UNINTENDEDCONSEQUENCES

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They didn't claim the law was vague, they said it prevented something it doesn't prevent.

Actually it does. It prevents that exact thing, without a long, subjective process, subject to several doctors' opinions.

So you're wrong again.

You have a bad habit of just making shit up, instead of learning about the topic.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Marty, quit yer whining.

 

[debbiedowner]

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/4945482-florida-department-health-threatens/

Florida official says DeSantis’s office ordered him to threaten TV stations over abortion ads​

John Wilson, general counsel for the Florida Department of Health, wrote in a sworn affidavit that officials from Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R) office pushed him to threaten television stations with criminal prosecutions if they did not take down ads in support of a Florida abortion rights measure.

Wilson, who resigned from his position on Oct. 10, wrote in the affidavit that he received prewritten letters directing him to send the threatening letters under his name on behalf of the Florida Department of Health.

He said he received the letters on Oct. 3 from Sam Elliot, assistant general counsel for the executive office of the governor. Wilson said he was also directed to send the letters by Ryan Newman and Jed Jody, two other officials in DeSantis’s office.

Wilson did send the letters, which pressured the TV stations to take down political advertisements in support of Amendment 4, a ballot measure that, if approved, would broaden access to abortion in the state of Florida. The measure, which needs the support of 60 percent of voters to pass, would effectively reverse a six-week ban on abortion.

“A man is nothing without his conscience,” Wilson wrote in his resignation letter reported by the Miami Herald and Tampa Bay Times. “It has become clear in recent days that I cannot join you on the road that lies before the agency.”

The Hill has reached out to the DeSantis office for comment.

Wilson is now being sued, along with Joseph Ladapo, the Florida surgeon general and head of the Department of Health, by Floridians Protecting Freedom, the group sponsoring Amendment 4. It claims the threatening letters sent to the television stations violated their First Amendment rights.

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[Lesh]

Beyond the feee speech issue

This illustrates clearly that the assault on abortion rights is going strong all across the country

Vote those bastards out