Judge rules pro-HAMAS foreigner can be deported for undermining U.S. policy

[ThisIsMe]

YOu do know that decrying genocide isn't the same as supporting "death to America", right?

I agree, but you all seem to be decrying genocide only for the Israelis. You do realize that hamas attacked Israel, right? What about decrying that?

 

[otto105]

This is the DHS allegation. Not to mention; many of these protests have been anti Israel, pro hamas, where they were spray painting pro hamas graffiti.

You take any opinion that is pro Palestinian and turn it into supporting Hamas.

 

[otto105]

You’re insane. We are under no obligation to accept terrorist supporters into this country - or to keep them here once they reveal their intentions to incite harm against our people or oppose American policy.

And in THIS case, American policy is to ramp down the antisemitic fervor that has resulted in assaults on Jews on liberal campuses. Sorry that upsets you.

Conform and obey people!!!

 

[ThisIsMe]

You take any opinion that is pro Palestinian and turn it into supporting Hamas.

No, but who attacked Israel? Hamas, right? Then Israel retaliates and now you have anti Israel protests; but it's not their fault that hamas is using Palestinians as human shields. So they attack Israel for retaliating, thus giving hamas a pass

If irsrael put all their artillery banks in population centers and hamas killed Israeli citizens, would you be condemning Israel or hamas? Recent history tells me you'd be criticizing Israel for putting people in the path of danger. So the Palestinian protests are really pro hamas protests because they are protecting hamas by decrying Israel for defending itself..

 

[Crepitus]

I agree, but you all seem to be decrying genocide only for the Israelis. You do realize that hamas attacked Israel, right? What about decrying that?

Of course I know that hamas staged a terrorist attack.

The Palestinian children did not.

 

[task0778]

First, freedom of speech is not without limits. One may not incite violence or interfere or encroach on the rights of others. Was Khalil involved with preventing Columbia students from going to class or preventing their movement around campus or stimulating people to attack Jewish students or deface property? If he was involved –and the immigration judge thought there was evidence to prove that he was, then his right to speak is no longer protected. Speech is not protected if the speech is “directed to incite lawless action” or “likely to incite or produce such action.” The Supreme Court made that clear in the 1969 Brandenburg vs Ohio case.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Of course I know that hamas staged a terrorist attack.

The Palestinian children did not.

So blame hamas for using the Palestinian children as human shields. You are protecting hamas when you dont do that.

What you're doing is giving hamas permission to repeat their actions. If israel is prevented from response because hamas is using Palestinians as shields, you are giving hamas a pass. You SHOULD be attacking hamas for doing this, but you are not, you're attacking israel. Why? If hamas attacked israel in the same way, and israel used citizens as human shields, you all would be blaming israel....

You are giving hamas a pass here

 

[Crepitus]

So blame hamas for using the Palestinian children as human shields. You are protecting hamas when you dont do that.

What you're doing is giving hamas permission to repeat their actions. If israel is prevented from response because hamas is using Palestinians as shields, you are giving hamas a pass. You SHOULD be attacking hamas for doing this, but you are not, you're attacking israel. Why? If hamas attacked israel in the same way, and israel used citizens as human shields, you all would be blaming israel....

You are giving hamas a pass here

And I do. It still doesn't make genocide ok.

 

[struth]

Yes, they are.




What did Rümeysa Öztürk say or do that made her deserve to be treated this way?

When did she:
advocate for or engage in vandalism?
advocated for or support terrorism?
vandalize, assault or deny access to anyone?



As far as I can tell, her only “crime” was to appear on a list names provided to the administration by the “Canary Mission”, a pro-Israel doxxing site that seems to be on a mission to silence pro-Palestinian voices.

That is now a crime?

Nobody’s claimed she committed a crime

 

[ThisIsMe]

And I do. It still doesn't make genocide ok.

I agree, but israel isn't the ones committing the genocide here, it's hamas. Again, it's nkt Israel's fault that hamas is putting their weapons banks in schools and hospitals. Israel appears to give warnings to the people of Gaza before they send a missile strike.

Maybe you all should be holding protests on these universities to denounce hamas for this barbaric practice.

 

[Crepitus]

but israel isn't the ones committing the genocide

Why would you try to pass off a lie like that?

 

[Lisa558]

And I do. It still doesn't make genocide ok.

You’re either ignorant, or antisemitic.

This isn’t a genocide. If Israel wanted a genocide, the Gazans would have all been dead by Oct 14, 2023.

As it is, 99.5% of Gazans remain alive - despite HAMAS using them as body shields.

 

[Lisa558]

Why would you try to pass off a lie like that?

You’re the one who is lying, and parroting the HAMAS propaganda. There’s no genocide.

The only genocide is that which HAMAS aims for Israel - and they’ve said so. They said they will keep doing Oct 7 over and over again until every last Jew is dead.

 

[Crepitus]

You’re either ignorant, or antisemitic.

Neither.

It's not like I'm some bloody tRumpling, after all.

 

[Crepitus]

You’re the one who is lying, and parroting the HAMAS propaganda

Nope. What do you think Netanyahu plans to do with the people who used to live in Gaza?

 

[Coyote]

…

I don’t know what she said, since she is no longer a mod and I can put her on ignore, but I sure like what YOU said.

And Israel has made land offers to the Palestinians, one offering them 95% of what they wanted. They turned it down. Why? It was conditioned on their accepting Israel’s right to exist, and they refused.

That’s because their main objective is NOT their own state. Their overriding objective is to wipe Israel off the map, and kill all her Jews.

ah…no wonder you dodge the difficult questions…not surprising coming from an entrenched racist bigot.

You might want to look up that amazing land offer…it was a fantasy.

Olmert reveals for first time map of Palestinian state he offered Abbas

Former PM shows documentary-makers diagram that inspired legend of Palestinian leader's hastily sketched copy presented to officials in Ramallah in failed peace bid

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Coyote]

Nope. What do you think Netanyahu plans to do with the people who used to live in Gaza?

In my opinion it is effectively genocide at this point, and there are certainly war crimes at the very least.

The aim is complete destruction of the Palestinian people and liquidation of the Palestinian cause under a thin veneer of fighting Hamas. Those in power do not even care about the hostages, if they ever did…they are just pawns to support the larger agenda.

It is interesting that the countries they are trying to expel the Palestinians to…Congo, Sudan, Somalia, are themselves extremely impoverished and conflict ridden.

• Speaking in in the Knesset last month, Smotrich spoke in vivid terms about the timeline for expelling the entire population of Gaza. "If we take out 10,000 a day it will take six months. If we take out 5,000 a day it will take a year," he said.

They have also stated if a deal isn’t reached by Trump’s visit they will occupy and flatten all of Gaza.

And people support this.

 

[Coyote]

Nobody’s claimed she committed a crime

Read the post I was responding to for insight.

 

[Coyote]

I agree, but israel isn't the ones committing the genocide here, it's hamas. Again, it's nkt Israel's fault that hamas is putting their weapons banks in schools and hospitals. Israel appears to give warnings to the people of Gaza before they send a missile strike.

Maybe you all should be holding protests on these universities to denounce hamas for this barbaric practice.

Hamas is not committing genocide. It is committing terrorism. They have neither the power nor capability to commit genocide however much they may want to. Israel however does have both the power and capability.

 

[Meathead]

Hamas is not committing genocide. It is committing terrorism.

Do you understand what a patently idiot you are?