Judge "orders" Trump Administration to stop arresting people in California

[Nostra]

And you use "illegal" alien with even more reckless abandon, since the majority of them committed no crime. Here or abroad.

BTW: Violation of immigration regulations, is NOT a crime.
They are only subject to fines and deportation, not jail.

You are a liar meaner gene

1911. 8 U.S.C. 1325 -- Unlawful Entry, Failure To Depart, Fleeing Immigration Checkpoints, Marriage Fraud, Commercial Enterprise Fraud​

Section 1325 sets forth criminal offenses relating to (1) improper entry into the United States by an alien, (2) entry into marriage for the purpose of evading immigration laws, and (3) establishing a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading immigration laws. The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) amended 8 U.S.C. § 1325 to provide that an alien apprehended while entering or attempting to enter the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty.

Comment: Further discussion of these offenses is set forth in Chapter 4 of Immigration Law, published as part of the Office of Legal Education's Litigation Series, and as part of the USABook computer library.

 

[Leo123]

Racial profiling is the issue. But you knew that.

Well. let's say you get stabbed by a big black guy. Do you want the cops to go looking for a white Irish guy?

 

[Mac-7]

What the **** does that have to do with the ruling?

Jesus, you guys really don’t ******* read anything. Is there someone at your nursing home that can read it to you?

This is so annoying.

I know what the quack judge said

And it does not impress me one bit

It may cause some confusion for a while

But the judge exceeded his authority and he will be put in his place pretty soon

 

[Marener]

I know what the quack judge said

And it does not impress me one bit

It may cause some confusion for a while

But the judge exceeded his authority and he will be put in his place pretty soon

You don’t know anything. You’re another low information MAGA voter, stuck in an algorithmic media bubble. Trump gets your compliance and you get your political family.

 

[Care4all]

In a criminal matter. Absolutely. But otherwise your claim (which of course you fail to support) is doubtful.

So the illegals are NOT Criminals being deported, as we've repeatedly been told by Trump and MAGAs? You are admitting that the deportees being arrested/captured are not criminals.... because they did not commit a criminal offence by crossing the border outside the legal border crossing....they only committed a civil offense, civil disobedience so to say?

Thank you for admitting the illegals are by far majority, not criminals and the whole casting those being deported as CRIMINALS, has been a ruse, a lie.

 

[rightwinger]

American citizens are not coming through the Darien gap led by paid Coyotes. It's perfectly legal to demand I.D. from those not coming into the U.S. at legal check points. Your example is preposterous. No one is being randomly stopped for no reason and asked to show I.D.

That is not what ICE is doing

They are storming places where brown people may congregate and rounding people up.

 

[Mac-7]

You don’t know anything. You’re another low information MAGA voter, stuck in an algorithmic media bubble. Trump gets your compliance and you get your political family.

I know what the dems are up to and it sucks

The judge will eventually be overruled

But in the meantime Trump is burning daylight and criminal aliens get to stay a little longer

 

[rightwinger]

Ah, illegal immigration is a crime. And if there is suspicion, there is a need to demand identification.

And that is what the judge is getting at

If your “suspicion” is based on brown skin, being at the wrong place at the wrong time or speaking Spanish…..
The detention is unconstitutional

 

[rightwinger]

Remember when your Cult demanded everyone carry a vax card?

Good times.

Link or it didn’t happen

 

[Care4all]

I know what the dems are up to and it sucks

The judge will eventually be overruled

But in the meantime Trump is burning daylight and criminal aliens get to stay a little longer

FYI
They are not criminals...for the most part none of them have been criminally charged with crossing the border illegally, a misdemeanor is a criminal offense OR a felony is a criminal offense....but they have only broken the Civil Law Offense on the books.....breaking civil law does not make anyone, a Criminal....

 

[Lisa558]

FYI
They are not criminals...for the most part none of them have been criminally charged with crossing the border illegally, a misdemeanor is a criminal offense OR a felony is a criminal offense....but they have only broken the Civil Law Offense on the books.....breaking civil law does not make anyone, a Criminal....

They’re still here illegally and their presence harms Americans.

 

[Marener]

I know what the dems are up to and it sucks

The judge will eventually be overruled

But in the meantime Trump is burning daylight and criminal aliens get to stay a little longer

You don’t know shit. You live in a media bubble and question nothing from your masters.

 

[Nostra]

That is not what ICE is doing

They are storming places where brown people may congregate and rounding people up.

I applaud Biden’s illegal hoard of terrorists and gang bangers for assembling in crowds and making it easier to clean up Tater’s disaster.

 

[Nostra]

Link or it didn’t happen

Your ignorance and hypocrisy is noted.

Stay stupid, it’s what you do best.

 

[j-mac]

You don’t know anything. You’re another low information MAGA voter, stuck in an algorithmic media bubble. Trump gets your compliance and you get your political family.

 

[BackAgain]

Problem arises when you mix in legal residents with your targeted illegals.

No, you can’t barge into their home or stop their car

Their homes come with an established expectation of privacy. Their cars are subject to being stopped on lower suspicion since driving itself is a privilege.

No, you can’t swarm a group of brown people and try to pick out who is legal or who is not.

I don’t recall anybody saying they could always do that.

ICE is being challenged by ACLU and they will lose in court because of their tactics

So what? That doesn’t make them right.

Now, just to be clearer and more focused than your posts; while I actually do agree that I don’t see how, legally, a cop can demand my papers based on no cause.
Hey! See. We can agree on some things.

However (there’s always a catch, isn’t there?):

I had an old Con Law Professor who used to have his students remember that “there is no right without a remedy; and there is no remedy without a right.”

What would the remedy be for any claimed violation of a right of the illegal alien? There isn’t any “evidence” to suppress. And that’s a “remedy” that isn’t available in an immigration proceeding — it not being a criminal matter.

 

[Hollie]

So the illegals are NOT Criminals being deported, as we've repeatedly been told by Trump and MAGAs? You are admitting that the deportees being arrested/captured are not criminals.... because they did not commit a criminal offence by crossing the border outside the legal border crossing....they only committed a civil offense, civil disobedience so to say?

Thank you for admitting the illegals are by far majority, not criminals and the whole casting those being deported as CRIMINALS, has been a ruse, a lie.

Ah, how convenient. The loopy leftists now excuse their criminal illegals by claiming illegal entry into the U.S, is merely “ civil disobedience’’.

 

[Nostra]

The US Supreme Court has issued this ruling for these rogue Dimtard activist judges who think they run the Executive Branch:

 

[rightwinger]

Their homes come with an established expectation of privacy. Their cars are subject to being stopped on lower suspicion since driving itself is a privilege.


I don’t recall anybody saying they could always do that.

So what? That doesn’t make them right.

Now, just to be clearer and more focused than your posts; while I actually do agree that I don’t see how, legally, a cop can demand my papers based on no cause.
Hey! See. We can agree on some things.

However (there’s always a catch, isn’t there?):

I had an old Con Law Professor who used to have his students remember that “there is no right without a remedy; and there is no remedy without a right.”

What would the remedy be for any claimed violation of a right of the illegal alien? There isn’t any “evidence” to suppress. And that’s a “remedy” that isn’t available in an immigration proceeding — it not being a criminal matter.

The Judge is asking for basic Probable Cause
ICE seems to struggle with the concept

 

[rightwinger]

The US Supreme Court has issued this ruling for these rogue Dimtard activist judges who think they run the Executive Branch:

Yes they did
That lower courts can’t issue a nationwide judgement

This one applies to ICE in California