Judge "orders" Trump Administration to stop arresting people in California

[rightwinger]

Each arrest is not subject to judicial review nor commentary as to the methodology. ICE need not prove itself innocent of whatever misconduct feelings a judge has

They are if they are not constitutional

Simple ICE
Show probable cause for the stop

 

[rightwinger]

Why does MAGA struggle with the Constitution?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Yes they do need probable cause

They gave an order to stop because the ACLU filed a grievance on ICE tactics

All iCE has to do is explain their probable cause.
Happens all the time with arrests

Nope.
If the judge was fair he wouldn't hear the case.
It is stupid. OBVIOUSLY ICE has guidance procedures.
Only an absolute moron thinks they don't
It's the frigging government - they probably have 4 volumes of guidance

 

[Lisa558]

I'm a no borders guy to the bone, so yeah, you can quote me on that.

Does that no borders philosophy extend to your house, where illegal alien thugs can come in and ruin your property?

 

[Lisa558]

They’re arresting criminals, not random people. Why do you always cite skin color?

Because they always cry “raaacist!” no matter the circumstances.

 

[rightwinger]

OBVIOUSLY ICE has guidance procedures.
Only an absolute moron thinks they don't
It's the frigging government - they probably have 4 volumes of guidance

And that is all the judge is asking for
What is taking ICE so long?

 

[Leo123]

Because they always cry “raaacist!” no matter the circumstances.

Yes, they are the real racists and they're belligerent about it too.

 

[Leo123]

And that is all the judge is asking for
What is taking ICE so long?

Ask what? Why they detained a gang banger hanging with illegals? Seems obvious probable cause. Unless you're an anti-American, ICE hating Marxist.

 

[rightwinger]

Ask what? Why they detained a gang banger hanging with illegals? Seems obvious probable cause. Unless you're an anti-American, ICE hating Marxist.

US District Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, ordered that DHS must develop guidance for officers to determine “reasonable suspicion” outside of the apparent race or ethnicity of a person, the language they speak or their accent, “presence at a particular location” such as a bus stop or “the type of work one does

Should be easy if you follow the Constitution

 

[Nostra]

They’re arresting criminals, not random people. Why do you always cite skin color?

Trollwinger is your typical racist Dimwinger.

 

[Nostra]

US District Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, ordered that DHS must develop guidance for officers to determine “reasonable suspicion” outside of the apparent race or ethnicity of a person, the language they speak or their accent, “presence at a particular location” such as a bus stop or “the type of work one does

Should be easy if you follow the Constitution

They already have that guidance, and are using it, Dumbass.

 

[rightwinger]

They already have that guidance, and are using it, Dumbass.

Link

 

[iamwhatiseem]

And that is all the judge is asking for
What is taking ICE so long?

Because they don't have to answer and they know it.
A judge is not a God, as noted by other legal folks in the media - the judge's statement looks like it was written by a first year law student.
They will file for a higher court who is likely to dismiss without a hearing.
And you - will move on to the next outrage.

 

[Leo123]

US District Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, ordered that DHS must develop guidance for officers to determine “reasonable suspicion” outside of the apparent race or ethnicity of a person, the language they speak or their accent, “presence at a particular location” such as a bus stop or “the type of work one does

Should be easy if you follow the Constitution

So, the Judge automatically declares ICE racist and you swallow it. Since when is gathering up illegal-aliens racist? Since when can law enforcement no longer follow leads where suspected criminals gather?

 

[WEATHER53]

They are if they are not constitutional

Simple ICE
Show probable cause for the stop

It’s insane to feel that ICE has to prove the validity of what they are doing while they are doing it
You are insane so would naturally go along with this highly arbitrary sentiment

 

[WEATHER53]

Because they don't have to answer and they know it.
A judge is not a God, as noted by other legal folks in the media - the judge's statement looks like it was written by a first year law student.
They will file for a higher court who is likely to dismiss without a hearing.
And you - will move on to the next outrage.

Judge Kunta is ordering ICE to prove themselves innocent of impropriety on the spot and subject to her review and approval. None of that is her job description

 

[iamwhatiseem]

It’s insane to feel that ICE has to prove the validity of what they are doing while they are doing it
You are insane so would naturally go along with this highly arbitrary sentiment

He is just desperately and constantly having to find reasons within himself as to why he is still supporting and defending an increasingly insane party.

 

[Leo123]

Reasonable suspicion.....Physical description is not the sole factor for detaining. Watch Holman dissemble this biased, projecting, evil *****, Dana Bash.

 

[Mac-7]

Judge is asking a basic Constitutional question
You need probable cause to detain someone

Wrong

The police have a high bar to arrest suspects

But they can be detained till their idenity is confirmed

An example is a traffic stop where the driver refuses to show identification

The police have no evidence to prove the driver is guilty of a crime so the driver is detained

If they are fingerprinted it often shows outstanding warrants and if so the person is arrested

 

[egp320i]

Wrong

The police have a high bar to arrest suspects

But they can be detained till their idenity is confirmed

An example is a traffic stop where the driver refuses to show identification

The police have no evidence to prove the driver is guilty of a crime so the driver is detained

If they are fingerprinted it often shows outstanding warrants and if so the person is arrested

late to the party here but how can just ONE judge tell our president he can't do this or that?
should it not go through the proper judicial system for a vote it's actually legal and within the framework?
no lower court judge should ever have that authority ever, it's a gross abuse of power