Job growth, income, and GDP is better under democrat presidents - by a lot.

[protectionist]

LOL

Your senility can't alter reality, gramps. 9½ million jobs added under Biden.

Restored isnt added. Ho hum.

 

[Faun]

Fool, it was, and I've been posting it for 4 years. Don't you know that the BEA routinely changes its charts ? (always to flatter a Democrat) I've told you that already too.
Forgot ?

You're demented, gramps.

Your own chart says it was made by tradingeconomics.com

 

[Faun]

Try this one on for size >>

Note: after you click the link, you have to click the little square in the upper left corner to set the years that you want to see (2015-2018)

United States GDP Annual Growth Rate

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in the United States expanded 3.10 percent in the fourth quarter of 2023 over the same quarter of the previous year. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States GDP Annual Growth Rate - plus previous releases, historical high and low...

tradingeconomics.com

View attachment 663710
This chart just linked to right now, (almost identical to the V-GRAPH I've been posting) shows GDP going from 1.4 - 2 in 2016, with a link, and labeled.
Yours shows 1.9 - 2.4, with a stuck-on label, that looks as phony as a $3 bill.

As always, the 2015/2016 is a SINKING failure, with GDPs rising when Trump took over. Ho hum.

LOL

That's not quarterly growth, you retard.

Holyfuckingshit.

 

[Faun]

Which Obama had FOUR times in 2015 and 2016.
3.8-2.2........
3.0-1.9
2.2-1.7
1.9-1.4

Set dates for 2015-01 to 2016-09

United States GDP Annual Growth Rate

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in the United States expanded 3.10 percent in the fourth quarter of 2023 over the same quarter of the previous year. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States GDP Annual Growth Rate - plus previous releases, historical high and low...

tradingeconomics.com

View attachment 663712

Moron, your chart is not the quarterly growth rate. You fucked up again and once again, revealed you don't know what you're talking about.

Now it makes sense why the numbers you've been posting don't match up with tbe quarterly growth rate published by the BEA.

 

[Faun]

433 and 435 both have links. Going blind ?

I forgot the link for 437, but it's the same one as the other 2.

LOL

This is fun.

Moron, the post I responded to was post #430.

Which post came first... #430, #433 or #435?

Take your time. Make sure you get it right.

 

[Faun]

Restored isnt added. Ho hum.

Of course it is. It's simple math, gramps. That's why you can't understand it.

151,682,000 + 8,665,000 = 143,017,000

 

[AntonToo]

This is nothing more than % changes from on quarter to another, Doesn't show squat about the good of the economy.

Dumbass what exactly do you think YOUR graph showed?

 

[Faun]

Dumbass what exactly do you think YOUR graph showed?
circles.

He's already demonstrated he has no fucking clue what he's talking about. If he's smart, he'll just abandon posting in this thread altogether.

But that abject imbecile was literally posting annual growth but referring to it as quarterly growth. That became obvious once he finally posted a link to his source, which he resisted posting, and for good reason, for quite some time.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

it’s worth telling you if you didn’t know. It’s worth telling you if you assumed it was better under republicans without actually knowing the data.

Biden‘a job growth numbers are historic by themselves. 8.7 million jobs have been created under Biden so far. Now, while inflation certainly is a problem right now, pretending it is all that matters is fallacious and disingenuous. This is especially important because every other economic metric has been doing quite well under Biden. Hell even if a recession hits under Biden (which i admit is a possibility), it won’t change the fact that Republican job growth is shitty. Trump‘a job growth specifically was pitiful in comparison to Biden’s.

Jobs, Income, GDP Growth 'Startlingly' Higher Under Democratic Presidents

Democratic presidents are "more willing to heed historical lessons," but Republicans cling to "magical" tax cuts and deregulation theories during economic downturns, states a new economic analysis.

www.newsweek.com

Biden hails 'historically strong growth' in May jobs report

The U.S. added a robust 390,000 jobs in May

www.ny1.com

ILMAO..........It's the opposite. Check out the data, Billy doesn't know what he's talking about. When does he? Billy's consistent:

POTUS	SEN	Con	UN-EMP Rate	POV Rate	Crime Rate	GDP	Ave. Misery Rate	Ave. MORT Rate	Infl. Rate	Fed. Debt
Ford	Dem	Dem	8.48	12.3	5.30%	-0.21%	15.10%	9.05%	9.14%	533.2 B
Ford	Dem	Dem	7.70	11.8	5.29%	5.39%	12.70%	8.87%	5.74%	620.4 B
Carter	Dem	Dem	7.05	11.6	5.08%	4.62%	13.10%	8.85%	6.50%	699.8 B
Carter	Dem	Dem	6.07	11.4	5.14%	5.54%	15.00%	9.64%	7.63%	771.5 B
Carter	Dem	Dem	5.85	11.7	5.57%	3.17%	19.30%	11.20%	11.25%	826.5 B
Carter	Dem	Dem	7.18	13	5.95%	-0.26%	19.70%	13.74%	13.55%	907.7 B
Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.62	14	5.86%	2.54%	12.19%	16.63%	10.33%	997.9 B
Reagan	Rep	Dem	9.71	15	5.60%	-1.80%	12.19%	16.04%	6.13%	1.14 T
Reagan	Rep	Dem	9.60	15.2	5.18%	4.58%	12.19%	13.24%	3.21%	1.38 T
Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.51	14.4	5.03%	7.24%	12.19%	13.88%	4.30%	1.57 T
Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.19	14	5.21%	4.17%	12.19%	12.43%	3.55%	1.82 T
Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.00	13.6	5.50%	3.46%	12.19%	10.19%	1.90%	2.13 T
Reagan	Dem	Dem	6.18	13.4	5.58%	3.46%	12.19%	10.21%	3.66%	2.35 T
Reagan	Dem	Dem	5.49	13	5.66%	4.18%	12.19%	10.34%	4.08%	2.60 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	5.26	12.8	5.74%	3.68%	10.68%	10.32%	4.83%	2.86 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	5.62	13.5	5.82%	-1.79%	10.68%	10.13%	5.40%	3.23 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	6.85	14.2	5.90%	-1.99%	10.68%	9.25%	4.24%	3.67 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	7.49	14.8	5.66%	3.52%	10.68%	8.39%	3.03%	4.06 T
Clinton	Dem	Dem	6.91	15.1	5.48%	2.75%	9.20%	7.31%	2.95%	4.41 T
Clinton	Dem	Dem	6.10	14.5	5.37%	4.03%	8.20%	8.38%	2.61%	4.70 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	5.59	13.8	5.28%	2.68%	8.10%	7.93%	2.81%	4.98 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	5.41	13.7	5.09%	3.77%	8.70%	7.81%	2.93%	5.22 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.94	13.3	4.93%	4.45%	6.40%	7.60%	2.34%	5.41 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.50	12.7	4.62%	4.48%	6.00%	6.94%	1.55%	5.53 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.22	11.9	4.27%	4.75%	6.70%	7.44%	2.19%	5.66 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	3.97	11.3	4.12%	-0.63%	7.30%	8.05%	3.38%	5.67 T
Bush	Dem	Rep	4.74	11.7	4.16%	-3.13%	7.30%	6.97%	2.83%	5.80 T
Bush	Dem	Rep	5.78	12.1	4.13%	1.74%	8.40%	6.54%	1.59%	6.23 T
Bush	Rep	Rep	5.99	12.5	4.07%	2.86%	7.60%	5.83%	2.27%	6.78 T
Bush	Rep	Rep	5.54	12.7	3.98%	3.80%	8.70%	5.84%	2.68%	7.38 T
Bush	Rep	Rep	5.08	12.6	3.90%	3.51%	8.30%	5.87%	3.39%	7.93 T
Bush	Rep	Rep	4.61	12.3	3.81%	2.86%	6.90%	6.41%	3.23%	8.50 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	4.62	12.5	3.73%	1.88%	9.10%	6.34%	2.85%	9.07 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	5.80	13.2	3.67%	-0.14%	7.40%	6.03%	3.84%	10.02 T
Obama	Dem	Dem	9.28	14.3	3.51%	-2.54%	12.60%	5.04%	-0.36%	11.90 T
Obama	Dem	Dem	9.61	15.1	3.35%	2.56%	10.80%	4.69%	1.64%	13.56 T
Obama	Dem	Rep	8.93	15	3.29%	1.55%	11.50%	4.45%	3.16%	14.79 T
Obama	Dem	Rep	8.08	15	3.26%	2.25%	9.60%	3.66%	2.07%	16.06 T
Obama	Dem	Rep	7.36	14.8	3.11%	1.84%	8.20%	3.98%	1.46%	16.74 T
Obama	Dem	Rep	6.16	14.8	2.95%	2.53%	6.40%	4.17%	1.62%	17.82 T
Obama	Rep	Rep	5.28	13.5	2.89%	2.91%	5.70%	3.85%	0.12%	18.15 T
Obama	Rep	Rep	4.88	12.7	2.85%	1.64%	6.80%	3.65%	1.26%	19.57 T
Trump	Rep	Rep	4.35	12.3	2.76%	2.37%	6.30%	3.99%	2.13%	20.24 T
Trump	Rep	Rep	3.89	11.8	2.59%	2.93%	5.80%	4.54%	2.44%	21.52 T
Trump	Rep	Dem	3.68	10.5	2.49%	2.16%	5.80%	3.94%	1.81%	22.71 T
Trump	Rep	Dem		9.3		-31.20%	6.6	3.16%	1.25%
Trump	Rep	Dem	6.70	11.7	4.70%	Year -3.3%	6.6	3.11%	1.25%	26.95 T
Xiden	Dem	Dem	3.90	Pend.	Pend.	5.70%	10.94	3.67%	7.00%	30T
Xiden	Dem	Dem	3.60	Pend.	Pend.	-1.50%	12.18	6.26%	8.60%	30.5T

 

[Billy000]

ILMAO..........It's the opposite. Check out the data, Billy doesn't know what he's talking about. When does he? Billy's consistent:

POTUS	SEN	Con	UN-EMP Rate	POV Rate	Crime Rate	GDP	Ave. Misery Rate	Ave. MORT Rate	Infl. Rate	Fed. Debt
Ford	Dem	Dem	8.48	12.3	5.30%	-0.21%	15.10%	9.05%	9.14%	533.2 B
Ford	Dem	Dem	7.70	11.8	5.29%	5.39%	12.70%	8.87%	5.74%	620.4 B
Carter	Dem	Dem	7.05	11.6	5.08%	4.62%	13.10%	8.85%	6.50%	699.8 B
Carter	Dem	Dem	6.07	11.4	5.14%	5.54%	15.00%	9.64%	7.63%	771.5 B
Carter	Dem	Dem	5.85	11.7	5.57%	3.17%	19.30%	11.20%	11.25%	826.5 B
Carter	Dem	Dem	7.18	13	5.95%	-0.26%	19.70%	13.74%	13.55%	907.7 B
Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.62	14	5.86%	2.54%	12.19%	16.63%	10.33%	997.9 B
Reagan	Rep	Dem	9.71	15	5.60%	-1.80%	12.19%	16.04%	6.13%	1.14 T
Reagan	Rep	Dem	9.60	15.2	5.18%	4.58%	12.19%	13.24%	3.21%	1.38 T
Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.51	14.4	5.03%	7.24%	12.19%	13.88%	4.30%	1.57 T
Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.19	14	5.21%	4.17%	12.19%	12.43%	3.55%	1.82 T
Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.00	13.6	5.50%	3.46%	12.19%	10.19%	1.90%	2.13 T
Reagan	Dem	Dem	6.18	13.4	5.58%	3.46%	12.19%	10.21%	3.66%	2.35 T
Reagan	Dem	Dem	5.49	13	5.66%	4.18%	12.19%	10.34%	4.08%	2.60 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	5.26	12.8	5.74%	3.68%	10.68%	10.32%	4.83%	2.86 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	5.62	13.5	5.82%	-1.79%	10.68%	10.13%	5.40%	3.23 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	6.85	14.2	5.90%	-1.99%	10.68%	9.25%	4.24%	3.67 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	7.49	14.8	5.66%	3.52%	10.68%	8.39%	3.03%	4.06 T
Clinton	Dem	Dem	6.91	15.1	5.48%	2.75%	9.20%	7.31%	2.95%	4.41 T
Clinton	Dem	Dem	6.10	14.5	5.37%	4.03%	8.20%	8.38%	2.61%	4.70 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	5.59	13.8	5.28%	2.68%	8.10%	7.93%	2.81%	4.98 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	5.41	13.7	5.09%	3.77%	8.70%	7.81%	2.93%	5.22 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.94	13.3	4.93%	4.45%	6.40%	7.60%	2.34%	5.41 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.50	12.7	4.62%	4.48%	6.00%	6.94%	1.55%	5.53 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.22	11.9	4.27%	4.75%	6.70%	7.44%	2.19%	5.66 T
Clinton	Rep	Rep	3.97	11.3	4.12%	-0.63%	7.30%	8.05%	3.38%	5.67 T
Bush	Dem	Rep	4.74	11.7	4.16%	-3.13%	7.30%	6.97%	2.83%	5.80 T
Bush	Dem	Rep	5.78	12.1	4.13%	1.74%	8.40%	6.54%	1.59%	6.23 T
Bush	Rep	Rep	5.99	12.5	4.07%	2.86%	7.60%	5.83%	2.27%	6.78 T
Bush	Rep	Rep	5.54	12.7	3.98%	3.80%	8.70%	5.84%	2.68%	7.38 T
Bush	Rep	Rep	5.08	12.6	3.90%	3.51%	8.30%	5.87%	3.39%	7.93 T
Bush	Rep	Rep	4.61	12.3	3.81%	2.86%	6.90%	6.41%	3.23%	8.50 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	4.62	12.5	3.73%	1.88%	9.10%	6.34%	2.85%	9.07 T
Bush	Dem	Dem	5.80	13.2	3.67%	-0.14%	7.40%	6.03%	3.84%	10.02 T
Obama	Dem	Dem	9.28	14.3	3.51%	-2.54%	12.60%	5.04%	-0.36%	11.90 T
Obama	Dem	Dem	9.61	15.1	3.35%	2.56%	10.80%	4.69%	1.64%	13.56 T
Obama	Dem	Rep	8.93	15	3.29%	1.55%	11.50%	4.45%	3.16%	14.79 T
Obama	Dem	Rep	8.08	15	3.26%	2.25%	9.60%	3.66%	2.07%	16.06 T
Obama	Dem	Rep	7.36	14.8	3.11%	1.84%	8.20%	3.98%	1.46%	16.74 T
Obama	Dem	Rep	6.16	14.8	2.95%	2.53%	6.40%	4.17%	1.62%	17.82 T
Obama	Rep	Rep	5.28	13.5	2.89%	2.91%	5.70%	3.85%	0.12%	18.15 T
Obama	Rep	Rep	4.88	12.7	2.85%	1.64%	6.80%	3.65%	1.26%	19.57 T
Trump	Rep	Rep	4.35	12.3	2.76%	2.37%	6.30%	3.99%	2.13%	20.24 T
Trump	Rep	Rep	3.89	11.8	2.59%	2.93%	5.80%	4.54%	2.44%	21.52 T
Trump	Rep	Dem	3.68	10.5	2.49%	2.16%	5.80%	3.94%	1.81%	22.71 T
Trump	Rep	Dem		9.3		-31.20%	6.6	3.16%	1.25%
Trump	Rep	Dem	6.70	11.7	4.70%	Year -3.3%	6.6	3.11%	1.25%	26.95 T
Xiden	Dem	Dem	3.90	Pend.	Pend.	5.70%	10.94	3.67%	7.00%	30T
Xiden	Dem	Dem	3.60	Pend.	Pend.	-1.50%	12.18	6.26%	8.60%	30.5T

Lol I love how you post this and claim “it’s the opposite” when it clearly isn’t. What is this source anyway? Does it cover job growth and wage growth? All that is better under democrats as well.

 

[protectionist]

Dumbass what exactly do you think YOUR graph showed?

It showed the Gross Domestic Production of the country quarterly for 4 years, with Obama's GDPs SINKING like a rock, and Trump's GDPs consistently bringing them back up again, from Obama's low levels. Only trouble is, it doesn't get shown on liberal TV shows, and liberals like Billy000 remain ignorant, even while conservatives having watched conservative TV shows, have known it for years.

And then another liberal like you comes in here and presents a rather meaningless, irrelevant graph that does nothing but show changes from one quarter to another, and everybody sits here and says "Yeah, so ?"

Thats like having somebody talk about the batting averages of baseball's greatest hitter, Ted Williams, and say well in 3 different years he hit .406, .375, and .388. So the averages changed from one year to another. OK. So what about it ?

You are the "Dumbass" for posting a chart unrelated to the discussion.

 

[themirrorthief]

Lol I love how you present this long list when all of those things are related to the same issue. Trust me I noticed. Your facade was a weak attempt. Oh and just you know, inflation is high all over the world.

I mean either way dude you might as well vote democrat. Republicans fail you.

Biden has made us the laughing stock of the world poor old senile turd

 

[protectionist]

You’re welcome to find your own data to counter mine if you think it’s wrong lol

The word "data"as become a JOKE in America. Talking heads on TV keep saying the inflation rate (which they get from govt "data") is 8.6%. While this is very high compared to the 1.4% rate when Trump left office. 8.6% is nothing compared to the 100-200% inflation that has occured in the rental housing industry, which does not get anywhere near as much mention as gas & food prices.

"data" ? The data is in my (and 1000s of others) checking account, which shows a 43% increase in rent, which would have been 100% if I had stayed where I was, and not moved (which cost a lot of money and trouble) a few months ago.

The "data" also doesnt show the 118% increase in rent if I would have stayed where I was, in the apartment I moved out of last year - rent went from $550/mo to $1200/mo

Nor does it show the 200% increases in apartments going (routinely) from $600/mo to $1800/mo, and from $700/mo to over $2000/mo.

So what is the new rent standard that landlords are charging for what people HAVE TO HAVE TO SURVIVE ? >> Answer: Anything.

 

[AntonToo]

It showed the Gross Domestic Production of the country quarterly for 4 years, with Obama's GDPs SINKING like a rock, and Trump's GDPs consistently bringing them back up again, from Obama's low levels. Only trouble is, it doesn't get shown on liberal TV shows, and liberals like Billy000 remain ignorant, even while conservatives having watched conservative TV shows, have known it for years.

And then another liberal like you comes in here and presents a rather meaningless, irrelevant graph that does nothing but show changes from one quarter to another, and everybody sits here and says "Yeah, so ?"

Thats like having somebody talk about the batting averages of baseball's greatest hitter, Ted Williams, and say well in 3 different years he hit .406, .375, and .388. So the averages changed from one year to another. OK. So what about it ?

You are the "Dumbass" for posting a chart unrelated to the discussion.

Moron, Quarterly GDP growth rate (annualized and adjusted for inflation, aka as REAL) is exactly what I showed you.

It clearly shows 2018 to 2019 slowdown in growth, so no, growth did not only increase under Trump, even before it fell off the cliff in 2020.

How many times will we need to go over these simple facts?

Economic high view is that there is nothing special about "Trump economy" compared to "Obama economy". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to throw in some deficit financed tax cuts and keep interest rates low to bump already solid economy untill Covid crashes the party.

 

[AntonToo]

The word "data"as become a JOKE in America. Talking heads on TV keep saying the inflation rate (which they get from govt "data") is 8.6%. While this is very high compared to the 1.4% rate when Trump left office. 8.6% is nothing compared to the 100-200% inflation that has occured in the rental housing industry, which does not get anywhere near as much mention as gas & food prices.

"data" ? The data is in my (and 1000s of others) checking account, which shows a 43% increase in rent, which would have been 100% if I had stayed where I was, and not moved (which cost a lot of money and trouble) a few months ago.

The "data" also doesnt show the 118% increase in rent if I would have stayed where I was, in the apartment I moved out of last year - rent went from $550/mo to $1200/mo

Nor does it show the 200% increases in apartments going (routinely) from $600/mo to $1800/mo, and from $700/mo to over $2000/mo.

So what is the new rent standard that landlords are charging for what people HAVE TO HAVE TO SURVIVE ? >> Answer: Anything.

View attachment 664202

Where is your Biden GDP and job growth and wage increase graphs compared to Trump? Or does all that not matter as soon as economy takes a nose dive during Trump's last year in office?

 

[struth]

Not even close.

agreed…obamacare isn’t commie. The dems aren’t commie l…they aren’t even socialist…they are fascist. Obamacare is a fascist policy. The demafasict partner with some big business, and support them, so long as the business does the bidding of the party

 

[AntonToo]

agreed…obamacare isn’t commie. The dems aren’t commie l…they aren’t even socialist…they are fascist. Obamacare is a fascist policy. The demafasict partner with some big business, and support them, so long as the business does the bidding of the party

.....how is Obamacare...fascist?

Were you dropped on your head?

 

[Burgermeister]

 

[struth]

.....how is Obamacare...fascist?

Were you dropped on your head?

pretty sure i explained

do you not know what fascism is? again i explained in the post you quoted

 

[AntonToo]

pretty sure i explained

do you not know what fascism is? again i explained in the post you quoted

You posted some fuzy wuzy bullshit about big business supposedly benefitting from something, not an actual explanation what makes a healthcare law FASCIST.

Fascists were not fascist because they passed some mild healthcare reforms and you look out of your fucking mind when you start to go there.