Jews for Justice..... If Americans really Knew

[toastman]

That wasn't their intention. Their intention was clear, to build a Jewish home as promised by the British.

So were the Brits to now "promise" Canada to Tanzania.....Would those Canadians need to start packing?

Tanzania is a sovereign state. Not even remotely close

 

[nat4900]

Tanzania is a sovereign state. Not even remotely close

Is sarcasm way over your head??? If so, I'll have my dog respond to your next post...He's pretty good, however.

 

[toastman]

Tanzania is a sovereign state. Not even remotely close

Is sarcasm way over your head??? If so, I'll have my dog respond to your next post...He's pretty good, however.

Ummm, i got news for you . Dogs can't talk...

 

[nat4900]

Ummm, i got news for you . Dogs can't talk...

Yeah, but my dog is a terrific typist....

 

[toastman]

Ummm, i got news for you . Dogs can't talk...

Yeah, but my dog is a terrific typist....

We'll see about that

 

[montelatici]

Toast believes that any people should willingly give up their land and homes to Jews.

 

[aris2chat]

Only people who don't really understand what happened in nazi german would compare Germany with Israel.

BS....and cheap.....YOU pointed out that Palestinians are given the opportunity to fight dislocation by Israelis.......in an Israeli Court and legal system.......I simply pointed out that such cases are perfunctory and that Germany in the early '30 actually went through the same charade.

When those with even a small bit of jewish blood in their family tree were deemed no long as germans or those of jewish decent no long cold hold professional jobs, there was not recource through the courts, nor when jews were sent to the death camps.
Where was the german court when their rights were taken away or when millions were killed?

 

[Linkiloo]

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Linkiloo, notice how the scumbag focuses purely on Israel, demanding that Israel become secular, granting absolute democratic rights to all - but not a ******* peep on any of the 22 arab countries doing the same. Hypocritical dogshit masquerading as a poster.

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

An obvious dodge. I can always tell a real leftist from an anti-semite. The real leftist will equally condemn all human rights breaches the world over without singling out the jewish state. The honest critic will put suffering in context. He will see how the average palestinian is an instrument in a much bigger conflict, how he has been betrayed by his leaders and his neighbours (all of them). But an honest liberal will see that he is living longer than his berethen in neighbouring countries and that his freedoms are seriously curtailed but that the conflict has created this reality and this suffering for Jews too.

Not true.

If you stop using Israeli propaganda as your only source of information, you will find that activists are also involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc..

I bet you are.

 

[Linkiloo]

Toast believes that any people should willingly give up their land and homes to Jews.

From this post it follows that giving up one's home to anyone but Jews would be easier. That is clearly an anti-semitic view.

 

[Phoenall]

When they fire these weapons of DEFENSE.......LOL..........on a daily business at there neighbors then Israel has every right to confiscate these weapons.

Beagle, you dingbat, when a guy wearing a yarmulke comes with a bulldozer to tear down your home.......you DEFEND your family.......Don't like it?
Tough shit,.

Not if you have any sense you don't, you go crying to daddy hamas and demand a new home. But you never ever fire an illegal rocket at children 50 miles away to terrorise them as that is the sign of a coward.

 

[Phoenall]

Same homes Hamas used to fire rockets from..............
Tough shit.

Well, then, tough shit, with those rockets raining on Israelis.....Happy now?

And even tougher that 2000 terrorists were killed because of those rockets and 500,000 terrorists made homeless

HAPPY NOW ! ! ! ! ! !

 

[Challenger]

Because it hasn't worked well anywhere else in the middle east. Pretty obvious answer I'd say.

Linkiloo, notice how the scumbag focuses purely on Israel, demanding that Israel become secular, granting absolute democratic rights to all - but not a ******* peep on any of the 22 arab countries doing the same. Hypocritical dogshit masquerading as a poster.

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

An obvious dodge. I can always tell a real leftist from an anti-semite. The real leftist will equally condemn all human rights breaches the world over without singling out the jewish state. The honest critic will put suffering in context. He will see how the average palestinian is an instrument in a much bigger conflict, how he has been betrayed by his leaders and his neighbours (all of them). But an honest liberal will see that he is living longer than his berethen in neighbouring countries and that his freedoms are seriously curtailed but that the conflict has created this reality and this suffering for Jews too.

Good heavens, the "balanced view argument" AND the "Anti-Semite calumny" tactic all in one post, not seen that in years, it's a bit dated now. Problem with taking a balanced view (and I did, once upon a time) is that you take your balance and add the facts that support each side to either end of the scales. At some point the weight of evidence is so overwhelming and damning the scales tip over. That happened for me, when I learned that the Zionists lied, consistently and persistantly for decades; to the British, to the Americans, to the Syrians, to the Jordanians, to the Egyptians, to the League of Nations, to the UN and far more importantly, to the Jewish people themselves. Everyone has suffered because of Zionism, that's the reality of the world we live in today.

Yet the reality is that it has been mainly muslims that have impacted on the lives of hundreds of thousands of British people while Zionists have done absolutely nothing to them. I have not seen a report of a gang of Jewish men grooming 12 year old girls in Britain, but I have seen reports of nearly 100 muslim gangs getting arrested for it. I have not seen reports of Zionists driving cars into Glasgow airport packed with explosives, but I have seen reports of muslims doing it. I have not seen Zionists lining the street shouting insults at the soldiers returning home, but I have seen reports of muslims doing it.

IN FACT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY REPORTS OF ANY ZIONIST WRONG DOING OR CRIMINALITY IN BRITAIN, BUT I SEE REPORTS OF THE MUSLIMS WRONGDOING AND CRIMINALITY EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.


Want to prove me wrong mentally challenged that Zionists have never caused anyone to suffer as much as the muslims have in any nation in the world.

They created the cancer that is Israel.

 

[Challenger]

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

An obvious dodge. I can always tell a real leftist from an anti-semite. The real leftist will equally condemn all human rights breaches the world over without singling out the jewish state. The honest critic will put suffering in context. He will see how the average palestinian is an instrument in a much bigger conflict, how he has been betrayed by his leaders and his neighbours (all of them). But an honest liberal will see that he is living longer than his berethen in neighbouring countries and that his freedoms are seriously curtailed but that the conflict has created this reality and this suffering for Jews too.

Good heavens, the "balanced view argument" AND the "Anti-Semite calumny" tactic all in one post, not seen that in years, it's a bit dated now. Problem with taking a balanced view (and I did, once upon a time) is that you take your balance and add the facts that support each side to either end of the scales. At some point the weight of evidence is so overwhelming and damning the scales tip over. That happened for me, when I learned that the Zionists lied, consistently and persistantly for decades; to the British, to the Americans, to the Syrians, to the Jordanians, to the Egyptians, to the League of Nations, to the UN and far more importantly, to the Jewish people themselves. Everyone has suffered because of Zionism, that's the reality of the world we live in today.

Yet the reality is that it has been mainly muslims that have impacted on the lives of hundreds of thousands of British people while Zionists have done absolutely nothing to them. I have not seen a report of a gang of Jewish men grooming 12 year old girls in Britain, but I have seen reports of nearly 100 muslim gangs getting arrested for it. I have not seen reports of Zionists driving cars into Glasgow airport packed with explosives, but I have seen reports of muslims doing it. I have not seen Zionists lining the street shouting insults at the soldiers returning home, but I have seen reports of muslims doing it.

IN FACT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY REPORTS OF ANY ZIONIST WRONG DOING OR CRIMINALITY IN BRITAIN, BUT I SEE REPORTS OF THE MUSLIMS WRONGDOING AND CRIMINALITY EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.


Want to prove me wrong mentally challenged that Zionists have never caused anyone to suffer as much as the muslims have in any nation in the world.

NO ONE is condoning terrorist acts by radical Islamists...NO ONE !!!

However, when we examine the "effects" we cannot neglect from also examining the "causes."
Israel has basically colonized Palestine...using her superior military powers (and partially funded by the U.S.) to subjugate another ethnic group.....and the blood constantly spilled in that region is DIRECTLY attributed to the Israeli-Palestine conflict that began 70 years ago.

Subjugate another ethnic group...................

The Muslim World doesn't have a Moral leg to stand on in that regards............

The Ottomans slaughtered Millions at the end of the 19th Century and up til and after WWI............They created Concentration Camps in what they called the ottoman Caliphate............performed the Armenian Genocide and the Greek Genocide........long before the Genocide performed by Hitler..................

In that region before this occurred, and only ended after they were defeated, there were around 5 million ETHNIC MINORITIES called the CHRISTIANS and the Jews........................When they were done with their Extermination process only about 250,000 were left.....................

Why was the area in question underpopulated after WWI...........because millions had been slaughtered and the rest died in WWI in Heavy fighting between the Turks and Britain, France, Austrailia, etc..............Bloody fights including a fight for Gaza that lasted 9 months..................

Spare me the BS that it is the Jews who have the Ethnic, aka RACIST PROBLEM............

Do they charge a tax to non believers in their country..............

Do they oppress Religious Freedom there...................like in the Muslim World who if they just celebrate Easter they are possibly going to get slaughtered.............

Again, NO MORAL LEG TO STAND ON.

Perhaps, but the Palestinans do. They are the victims of Zionist colonisation in an era that is supposed to reject imperialism and colonialism and allow for the self-determination of peoples. The Palestinian people were denied their right to self determination by those imperialist colonial powers. So trying to conflate the Palestinian conflict with Zionist colonialism is at best, disingenuous.

 

[Challenger]

I'll say it one more time, this forum is about Israel and Palestine and the conflict. that's why I post about it here. Seemples.

An obvious dodge. I can always tell a real leftist from an anti-semite. The real leftist will equally condemn all human rights breaches the world over without singling out the jewish state. The honest critic will put suffering in context. He will see how the average palestinian is an instrument in a much bigger conflict, how he has been betrayed by his leaders and his neighbours (all of them). But an honest liberal will see that he is living longer than his berethen in neighbouring countries and that his freedoms are seriously curtailed but that the conflict has created this reality and this suffering for Jews too.

Good heavens, the "balanced view argument" AND the "Anti-Semite calumny" tactic all in one post, not seen that in years, it's a bit dated now. Problem with taking a balanced view (and I did, once upon a time) is that you take your balance and add the facts that support each side to either end of the scales. At some point the weight of evidence is so overwhelming and damning the scales tip over. That happened for me, when I learned that the Zionists lied, consistently and persistantly for decades; to the British, to the Americans, to the Syrians, to the Jordanians, to the Egyptians, to the League of Nations, to the UN and far more importantly, to the Jewish people themselves. Everyone has suffered because of Zionism, that's the reality of the world we live in today.

Yet the reality is that it has been mainly muslims that have impacted on the lives of hundreds of thousands of British people while Zionists have done absolutely nothing to them. I have not seen a report of a gang of Jewish men grooming 12 year old girls in Britain, but I have seen reports of nearly 100 muslim gangs getting arrested for it. I have not seen reports of Zionists driving cars into Glasgow airport packed with explosives, but I have seen reports of muslims doing it. I have not seen Zionists lining the street shouting insults at the soldiers returning home, but I have seen reports of muslims doing it.

IN FACT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY REPORTS OF ANY ZIONIST WRONG DOING OR CRIMINALITY IN BRITAIN, BUT I SEE REPORTS OF THE MUSLIMS WRONGDOING AND CRIMINALITY EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.


Want to prove me wrong mentally challenged that Zionists have never caused anyone to suffer as much as the muslims have in any nation in the world.

NO ONE is condoning terrorist acts by radical Islamists...NO ONE !!!

However, when we examine the "effects" we cannot neglect from also examining the "causes."
Israel has basically colonized Palestine...using her superior military powers (and partially funded by the U.S.) to subjugate another ethnic group.....and the blood constantly spilled in that region is DIRECTLY attributed to the Israeli-Palestine conflict that began 70 years ago.

Islamonazi propaganda as Isreal has colonised nowhere it doesn't have a legal right to colonise. You forget that from 635C.E. the arab muslims have subjugated the Jews and Christians in the M.E. and all the blood spilt has been as a direct result of arab muslim attempted world domination. Now we have a strong Jewish presence in the M.E. the cancer of islam has been stopped from spreading.

There is no legal right to colonise. The presense of the Zionist Paradise in the M.E. means that more Muslims are coming to Europe and America, fatal flaw in your logic there.

 

[Challenger]

Israel halts weapons shipment from Iran - BBC News

Israel says it has seized a ship carrying advanced Iranian weapons made in Syria that was heading towards Gaza.

The Panamanian-flagged vessel was boarded by Israeli naval commandos in the Red Sea off the coast of Sudan, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.

They found M-302 surface-to-surface missiles that were flown to Iran before being loaded onto the ship, it added.

Hamas, the militant Palestinian Islamist movement that governs Gaza, strenuously denied any involvement.

It accused Israel of concocting a story to "justify the blockade" of the coastal territory.

Israel tightly controls its border with Gaza, restricting what is allowed in for what it says are reasons crucial to its security. It also maintains a naval blockade. Egypt blockades Gaza's southern border.

Critics say the blockade is tantamount to collective punishment.

The important bit to note here is the phrase "Israel says"...pass me the salt, I need to take a pinch.

 

[Challenger]

Well, Beagle......there's no convincing you beyond your prejudices......But you should know that to Palestinians, Hamas and Hezbollah are freedom fighters....of course, to Israel, they are terrorists..
You see, its a matter of perspective...and for every rocket that Hezbollah launches on Israel, Israelis bulldoze yet another Palestinian home.....and the trend will go on, keeping in power BOTH the Israeli current government AND terrorist leaders......and so it goes.

Of course it's a matter of perspective................You choose Hamas and won't even answer my direct question...........are they Freedom Fighters to you.....................and again I state you don't even have to answer that question as I already know the answer, which you don't have the balls to admit.

You praised the other poster for his comments, and his comments on Iran supplying Hamas is an outright LIE.............they have been giving aid and comfort to Hamas for a very long time. Over time it is very well documented............While they aren't the best of buddies Iran funds them because they are a thorn in Israel's side...............

So you were agreeing with a LIE. Which I'm used to seeing............

You say it's basically a perpetual War. No shit Sherlock............It's been going on since 1948...................and over that time it is CLEAR............The ARAB WORLD will NEVER AGREE to ANYTHING OTHER THAN the DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.

In WW2 the AK the FFI and multiple resistance organisations were all call "terrorists" by the Nazis.

 

[Challenger]

Starting hostilities is not defending themselves, firing illegal rockets at Israeli civilians is not defending themselves. They are acts of war and terrorism. Would you give a child with a fixation on fire a can of gas and a box of matches ?

Earth to Phoney, earth to Phoney, they didn't start hostilities.

The occupation started a full 37 years before the first rocket went up.

The first documented attacks were against Jews, by Arabs. Even before 1929 Hebron Massacre.

Who starts the fight? The guy who throws the first punch, or the guy who continually needles the guy to provoke him into throwing the first punch?

 

[Challenger]

No there aren't. All of that Palestinian ass kissing has gotten to your head.

I remember when you made a list of comparisons to Nazi Germany, and I refuted them. SO feel free to do so again Palestinian ass kisser.

You didn't refute shit! Most of these discussions are way over your head.

You need to remind yourself your Canadian. Which means the only things you know, are women with flat heads and no teeth, the fact that you have a racist asshole for a prime minister and you make good beer. That's it!

That's all you know!

Mike Trout, mother-******! Mike Trout.

Mike trout is a great player, what's r point

and YES, I DID refute your comparisons. Go ahead, post them again Palestinian ass kisser. If you dare.

You are a ass kisser of European colonists. Did you support the Apartheid Boers or do you just support Jewish colonists?

The term 'European Colonists' is Palestinian propaganda.

You're just frustrated because you support the losing side.

The war's not over yet.

 

[Linkiloo]

Starting hostilities is not defending themselves, firing illegal rockets at Israeli civilians is not defending themselves. They are acts of war and terrorism. Would you give a child with a fixation on fire a can of gas and a box of matches ?

Earth to Phoney, earth to Phoney, they didn't start hostilities.

The occupation started a full 37 years before the first rocket went up.

The first documented attacks were against Jews, by Arabs. Even before 1929 Hebron Massacre.

Who starts the fight? The guy who throws the first punch, or the guy who continually needles the guy to provoke him into throwing the first punch?

Any parent will tell you that no one cares.

 

[Linkiloo]

An obvious dodge. I can always tell a real leftist from an anti-semite. The real leftist will equally condemn all human rights breaches the world over without singling out the jewish state. The honest critic will put suffering in context. He will see how the average palestinian is an instrument in a much bigger conflict, how he has been betrayed by his leaders and his neighbours (all of them). But an honest liberal will see that he is living longer than his berethen in neighbouring countries and that his freedoms are seriously curtailed but that the conflict has created this reality and this suffering for Jews too.

Good heavens, the "balanced view argument" AND the "Anti-Semite calumny" tactic all in one post, not seen that in years, it's a bit dated now. Problem with taking a balanced view (and I did, once upon a time) is that you take your balance and add the facts that support each side to either end of the scales. At some point the weight of evidence is so overwhelming and damning the scales tip over. That happened for me, when I learned that the Zionists lied, consistently and persistantly for decades; to the British, to the Americans, to the Syrians, to the Jordanians, to the Egyptians, to the League of Nations, to the UN and far more importantly, to the Jewish people themselves. Everyone has suffered because of Zionism, that's the reality of the world we live in today.

Yet the reality is that it has been mainly muslims that have impacted on the lives of hundreds of thousands of British people while Zionists have done absolutely nothing to them. I have not seen a report of a gang of Jewish men grooming 12 year old girls in Britain, but I have seen reports of nearly 100 muslim gangs getting arrested for it. I have not seen reports of Zionists driving cars into Glasgow airport packed with explosives, but I have seen reports of muslims doing it. I have not seen Zionists lining the street shouting insults at the soldiers returning home, but I have seen reports of muslims doing it.

IN FACT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY REPORTS OF ANY ZIONIST WRONG DOING OR CRIMINALITY IN BRITAIN, BUT I SEE REPORTS OF THE MUSLIMS WRONGDOING AND CRIMINALITY EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.


Want to prove me wrong mentally challenged that Zionists have never caused anyone to suffer as much as the muslims have in any nation in the world.

NO ONE is condoning terrorist acts by radical Islamists...NO ONE !!!

However, when we examine the "effects" we cannot neglect from also examining the "causes."
Israel has basically colonized Palestine...using her superior military powers (and partially funded by the U.S.) to subjugate another ethnic group.....and the blood constantly spilled in that region is DIRECTLY attributed to the Israeli-Palestine conflict that began 70 years ago.

Islamonazi propaganda as Isreal has colonised nowhere it doesn't have a legal right to colonise. You forget that from 635C.E. the arab muslims have subjugated the Jews and Christians in the M.E. and all the blood spilt has been as a direct result of arab muslim attempted world domination. Now we have a strong Jewish presence in the M.E. the cancer of islam has been stopped from spreading.

There is no legal right to colonise. The presense of the Zionist Paradise in the M.E. means that more Muslims are coming to Europe and America, fatal flaw in your logic there.

This post makes no sense. Palestinians are not coming to Europe from the Middle East and definately not due to Israel. Most of the murdering is being done by another arab, namely Assad. Our immigrants are from Kosovo, Syria, Albania. Can't blame that one on the "zionist".