Jews for Justice..... If Americans really Knew

[Billo_Really]

Israel halts weapons shipment from Iran - BBC News

Israel says it has seized a ship carrying advanced Iranian weapons made in Syria that was heading towards Gaza.

The Panamanian-flagged vessel was boarded by Israeli naval commandos in the Red Sea off the coast of Sudan, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.

They found M-302 surface-to-surface missiles that were flown to Iran before being loaded onto the ship, it added.

Hamas, the militant Palestinian Islamist movement that governs Gaza, strenuously denied any involvement.

It accused Israel of concocting a story to "justify the blockade" of the coastal territory.

Israel tightly controls its border with Gaza, restricting what is allowed in for what it says are reasons crucial to its security. It also maintains a naval blockade. Egypt blockades Gaza's southern border.

Critics say the blockade is tantamount to collective punishment.

Why can't Gazans have weapons?

Are you saying they don't have a right to defend themselves?

 

[nat4900]

Why can't Gazans have weapons?

Are you saying they don't have a right to defend themselves?

NO 2nd Amendment rights???? LOL

 

[Phoenall]

Israel halts weapons shipment from Iran - BBC News

Israel says it has seized a ship carrying advanced Iranian weapons made in Syria that was heading towards Gaza.

The Panamanian-flagged vessel was boarded by Israeli naval commandos in the Red Sea off the coast of Sudan, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.

They found M-302 surface-to-surface missiles that were flown to Iran before being loaded onto the ship, it added.

Hamas, the militant Palestinian Islamist movement that governs Gaza, strenuously denied any involvement.

It accused Israel of concocting a story to "justify the blockade" of the coastal territory.

Israel tightly controls its border with Gaza, restricting what is allowed in for what it says are reasons crucial to its security. It also maintains a naval blockade. Egypt blockades Gaza's southern border.

Critics say the blockade is tantamount to collective punishment.

Why can't Gazans have weapons?

Are you saying they don't have a right to defend themselves?

Starting hostilities is not defending themselves, firing illegal rockets at Israeli civilians is not defending themselves. They are acts of war and terrorism. Would you give a child with a fixation on fire a can of gas and a box of matches ?

 

[Phoenall]

Why can't Gazans have weapons?

Are you saying they don't have a right to defend themselves?

NO 2nd Amendment rights???? LOL

Not American so why should they.

 

[nat4900]

Israel halts weapons shipment from Iran - BBC News

Israel says it has seized a ship carrying advanced Iranian weapons made in Syria that was heading towards Gaza.

The Panamanian-flagged vessel was boarded by Israeli naval commandos in the Red Sea off the coast of Sudan, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.

They found M-302 surface-to-surface missiles that were flown to Iran before being loaded onto the ship, it added.

Hamas, the militant Palestinian Islamist movement that governs Gaza, strenuously denied any involvement.

It accused Israel of concocting a story to "justify the blockade" of the coastal territory.

Israel tightly controls its border with Gaza, restricting what is allowed in for what it says are reasons crucial to its security. It also maintains a naval blockade. Egypt blockades Gaza's southern border.

Critics say the blockade is tantamount to collective punishment.

Why can't Gazans have weapons?

Are you saying they don't have a right to defend themselves?

Starting hostilities is not defending themselves, firing illegal rockets at Israeli civilians is not defending themselves. They are acts of war and terrorism. Would you give a child with a fixation on fire a can of gas and a box of matches ?

Throwing boxes of tea into the Boston harbor was NOT "defending" either, dingbat.....Would you then say that American colonists were terrorists?...inciting a war?

 

[Phoenall]

Israel halts weapons shipment from Iran - BBC News

Israel says it has seized a ship carrying advanced Iranian weapons made in Syria that was heading towards Gaza.

The Panamanian-flagged vessel was boarded by Israeli naval commandos in the Red Sea off the coast of Sudan, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.

They found M-302 surface-to-surface missiles that were flown to Iran before being loaded onto the ship, it added.

Hamas, the militant Palestinian Islamist movement that governs Gaza, strenuously denied any involvement.

It accused Israel of concocting a story to "justify the blockade" of the coastal territory.

Israel tightly controls its border with Gaza, restricting what is allowed in for what it says are reasons crucial to its security. It also maintains a naval blockade. Egypt blockades Gaza's southern border.

Critics say the blockade is tantamount to collective punishment.

Why can't Gazans have weapons?

Are you saying they don't have a right to defend themselves?

Starting hostilities is not defending themselves, firing illegal rockets at Israeli civilians is not defending themselves. They are acts of war and terrorism. Would you give a child with a fixation on fire a can of gas and a box of matches ?

Throwing boxes of tea into the Boston harbor was NOT "defending" either, dingbat.....Would you then say that American colonists were terrorists?...inciting a war?

Yes I would.
But would you be as happy to see Israel doing exactly the same things to gaza and laiming that they were just defending themselves, or would you throw the hissy fit of all hissy fits ?

 

[eagle1462010]

Israel halts weapons shipment from Iran - BBC News

Israel says it has seized a ship carrying advanced Iranian weapons made in Syria that was heading towards Gaza.

The Panamanian-flagged vessel was boarded by Israeli naval commandos in the Red Sea off the coast of Sudan, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.

They found M-302 surface-to-surface missiles that were flown to Iran before being loaded onto the ship, it added.

Hamas, the militant Palestinian Islamist movement that governs Gaza, strenuously denied any involvement.

It accused Israel of concocting a story to "justify the blockade" of the coastal territory.

Israel tightly controls its border with Gaza, restricting what is allowed in for what it says are reasons crucial to its security. It also maintains a naval blockade. Egypt blockades Gaza's southern border.

Critics say the blockade is tantamount to collective punishment.

Why can't Gazans have weapons?

Are you saying they don't have a right to defend themselves?

When they fire these weapons of DEFENSE.......LOL..........on a daily business at there neighbors then Israel has every right to confiscate these weapons.

 

[nat4900]

When they fire these weapons of DEFENSE.......LOL..........on a daily business at there neighbors then Israel has every right to confiscate these weapons.

Beagle, you dingbat, when a guy wearing a yarmulke comes with a bulldozer to tear down your home.......you DEFEND your family.......Don't like it?
Tough shit,.

 

[eagle1462010]

When they fire these weapons of DEFENSE.......LOL..........on a daily business at there neighbors then Israel has every right to confiscate these weapons.

Beagle, you dingbat, when a guy wearing a yarmulke comes with a bulldozer to tear down your home.......you DEFEND your family.......Don't like it?
Tough shit,.

Same homes Hamas used to fire rockets from..............
Tough shit.

 

[nat4900]

Same homes Hamas used to fire rockets from..............
Tough shit.

Well, then, tough shit, with those rockets raining on Israelis.....Happy now?

 

[eagle1462010]

Same homes Hamas used to fire rockets from..............
Tough shit.

Well, then, tough shit, with those rockets raining on Israelis.....Happy now?

Are you finally understanding the Fact that me and you don't agree at all.............We are completely opposite on this issue and there isn't going to caving to your BS from my side..............

As long as Hamas continues to attack Israel then this will continue................and Israel can back it up on the battlefield anytime they please................

Stop firing at Israel...........recognize their countries right to exist............or get pounded by the IDF from time to time..............Which has been going on for 7 decades.

 

[nat4900]

Are you finally understanding the Fact that me and you don't agree at all.............We are completely opposite on this issue and there isn't going to caving to your BS from my side..............

As long as Hamas continues to attack Israel then this will continue................and Israel can back it up on the battlefield anytime they please................

Stop firing at Israel...........recognize their countries right to exist............or get pounded by the IDF from time to time..............Which has been going on for 7 decades.

Well, Beagle nothing please me more than to know that I'm on the "completely opposite side" from you......

No doubt, Israel is the big bully of that region....they have the military prowess, help with their financing of war material from the US taxpayers.....an ever growing desire to take more and more land from Palestinians.....

Will this make Israel live in peace??? Certainly not
Will this keep the war-mongering Netanyahu in power? Probably
Will this keep Iran from getting a nuke? Surely not.....

So, both sides will keep having children to be used for war fodder.

 

[aris2chat]

Bulldozers were a response to the violence and smuggling of weapons. They did not show up unexpected. There were notices issued, courts to adjudicate and time to move, family and all.

 

[nat4900]

Bulldozers were a response to the violence and smuggling of weapons. They did not show up unexpected. There were notices issued, courts to adjudicate and time to move, family and all.

Interesting response........BTW, did you know that in 1933-34 Germany, the rising Nazi Party ALSO used, first notices and then the courts to adjudicate why Germany Jewish families should leave their homes or businesses?

Just asking.....(and also wondering how history just repeats itself with the persecuted becoming the persecutors.)

 

[aris2chat]

Bulldozers were a response to the violence and smuggling of weapons. They did not show up unexpected. There were notices issued, courts to adjudicate and time to move, family and all.

Interesting response........BTW, did you know that in 1933-34 Germany, the rising Nazi Party ALSO used, first notices and then the courts to adjudicate why Germany Jewish families should leave their homes or businesses?

Just asking.....(and also wondering how history just repeats itself with the persecuted becoming the persecutors.)

Perhaps you have forgotten Kristallnacht and the aftermath, or the deportation of polish jews and their fate as refugees at the border?
Nazi issued orders, there was not length court hearings for jews to fight against the animals train boxes transporting jews to the death camps. They were not given years, months or weeks to arrange their affairs or store their property against the nazi thieves. They could not even keep their own hair or teeth.
Israeli courts have and still do up hold palestinian rights a great deal of the time. Many cases have decided in the palestinian favor.
Only people who don't really understand what happened in nazi german would compare Germany with Israel.

 

[montelatici]

Bulldozers were a response to the violence and smuggling of weapons. They did not show up unexpected. There were notices issued, courts to adjudicate and time to move, family and all.

Interesting response........BTW, did you know that in 1933-34 Germany, the rising Nazi Party ALSO used, first notices and then the courts to adjudicate why Germany Jewish families should leave their homes or businesses?

Just asking.....(and also wondering how history just repeats itself with the persecuted becoming the persecutors.)

Perhaps you have forgotten Kristallnacht and the aftermath, or the deportation of polish jews and their fate as refugees at the border?
Nazi issued orders, there was not length court hearings for jews to fight against the animals train boxes transporting jews to the death camps. They were not given years, months or weeks to arrange their affairs or store their property against the nazi thieves. They could not even keep their own hair or teeth.
Israeli courts have and still do up hold palestinian rights a great deal of the time. Many cases have decided in the palestinian favor.
Only people who don't really understand what happened in nazi german would compare Germany with Israel.

So why should the Palestinians have been punished for the crimes of the Germans, Christians no less?

 

[nat4900]

Only people who don't really understand what happened in nazi german would compare Germany with Israel.

BS....and cheap.....YOU pointed out that Palestinians are given the opportunity to fight dislocation by Israelis.......in an Israeli Court and legal system.......I simply pointed out that such cases are perfunctory and that Germany in the early '30 actually went through the same charade.

 

[Billo_Really]

When they fire these weapons of DEFENSE.......LOL..........on a daily business at there neighbors then Israel has every right to confiscate these weapons.

Except for the fact that that is a fantasy and not reality. The reality is Israel has broken the ceasefire over 400 times since Aug. 26 of last year and the Pals only shot back 5 rockets. That's a little less than "daily".

 

[Billo_Really]

Israeli courts have and still do up hold palestinian rights a great deal of the time. Many cases have decided in the palestinian favor.

No they don't! You're a fuckin' liar!

94% of the cases are dismissed without an investigation.

Only people who don't really understand what happened in nazi german would compare Germany with Israel.

There are many similarities between what went on in Germany during the 10 years prior to the Holocaust and Israel today and their treatment of the Palestinian's. Christ, even Holocaust survivors have stated this.

 

[toastman]

Bulldozers were a response to the violence and smuggling of weapons. They did not show up unexpected. There were notices issued, courts to adjudicate and time to move, family and all.

Interesting response........BTW, did you know that in 1933-34 Germany, the rising Nazi Party ALSO used, first notices and then the courts to adjudicate why Germany Jewish families should leave their homes or businesses?

Just asking.....(and also wondering how history just repeats itself with the persecuted becoming the persecutors.)

Perhaps you have forgotten Kristallnacht and the aftermath, or the deportation of polish jews and their fate as refugees at the border?
Nazi issued orders, there was not length court hearings for jews to fight against the animals train boxes transporting jews to the death camps. They were not given years, months or weeks to arrange their affairs or store their property against the nazi thieves. They could not even keep their own hair or teeth.
Israeli courts have and still do up hold palestinian rights a great deal of the time. Many cases have decided in the palestinian favor.
Only people who don't really understand what happened in nazi german would compare Germany with Israel.

Well said. They don't realize that when they are making the comparison, that they only making a fool out of themselves.