Jesus was a rich conservative industrialist

Jesus,
Was he poor.
The most powerful man in the world, poor? A Liberal?

Nope, not at all.

Jesus's advice results in record profit for early fisherman.

John 21 - Jesus and the Miraculous Catch of Fish - Bible Gateway

Jesus and the Miraculous Catch of Fish

21 Afterward Jesus appeared again to his disciples, by the Sea of Galilee.[a] It happened this way: 2 Simon Peter, Thomas (also known as Didymus), Nathanael from Cana in Galilee, the sons of Zebedee, and two other disciples were together. 3 “I’m going out to fish,” Simon Peter told them, and they said, “We’ll go with you.” So they went out and got into the boat, but that night they caught nothing.

4 Early in the morning, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples did not realize that it was Jesus.

5 He called out to them, “Friends, haven’t you any fish?”

“No,” they answered.

6 He said, “Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some.” When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.

7 Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, “It is the Lord!” As soon as Simon Peter heard him say, “It is the Lord,” he wrapped his outer garment around him (for he had taken it off) and jumped into the water. 8 The other disciples followed in the boat, towing the net full of fish, for they were not far from shore, about a hundred yards.[c] 9 When they landed, they saw a fire of burning coals there with fish on it, and some bread.

10 Jesus said to them, “Bring some of the fish you have just caught.” 11 So Simon Peter climbed back into the boat and dragged the net ashore. It was full of large fish, 153, but even with so many the net was not torn. 12 Jesus said to them, “Come and have breakfast.” None of the disciples dared ask him, “Who are you?” They knew it was the Lord. 13 Jesus came, took the bread and gave it to them, and did the same with the fish. 14 This was now the third time Jesus appeared to his disciples after he was raised from the dead.


Yes, early in history, Jesus proves the value of Capitalism as a way to avoid Socialism.


Whichever moron thought up capitalism---- this is its reality----- 200 years==prices double for growth--100 years prices double for growth---50 years prices double for growth, 25 years--etc,etc--- we are now in the 5 years and prices double for growth--then 2 1/2 years--disaster.
It is a good way to pursue $ and be lead away from God. Satans plan.

Except we have no capitalism just an over-governed, ruled, regulated, taxed, economy. And lets not forget endless lawsuits just to open or expand a business. I could go on.
 
You think, if Jesus was real, would he have owned a gun? Would he marry a man? There is a rich root to be taped here. I have waited in a hypothetical pumpkin patch or two. We are left to answer these questions alone, no supernatural powers or nothing. Money talks, they say, BS walks. Actually, BS has been maintaining well in the last twenty years. But, money seems to be gaining the upper hand now. Yey! That's America for ya.

money, I agree, has the upper hand.

And unlike Jesus, you celebrate this.

Jesus taught those around him to work. Like the fish story. My labor is only expressed in dollars. Yes I celebrate my labor. As you do.
 
Mary, are you under the assumption that Jesus didn't exist? We aren't left alone to answer life's questions. The Bible is our instruction manual. It was compiled supernaturally, and it answers your questions.
Jesus carried no sword. He is the most humble and gentlest of creatures.

elektra, Jesus took fishermen and made them fishers of men. Prior to that they fished because they needed to exist. If they had no livestock, they had to purchase their goat milk or wool. And people with no boats had to rely on fishermen to bring them fish. There was commerce before Jesus showed up. He didn't have to teach them to work. They already worked to survive. Rome wasn't handing out food stamps, and there was no incentive to stay on their parent's insurance plan. ;)

What Jesus taught them was not to put the importance of money ahead of the importance of the soul.

Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
:)
 
Mary, are you under the assumption that Jesus didn't exist? We aren't left alone to answer life's questions. The Bible is our instruction manual. It was compiled supernaturally, and it answers your questions.
Jesus carried no sword. He is the most humble and gentlest of creatures.

elektra, Jesus took fishermen and made them fishers of men. Prior to that they fished because they needed to exist. If they had no livestock, they had to purchase their goat milk or wool. And people with no boats had to rely on fishermen to bring them fish. There was commerce before Jesus showed up. He didn't have to teach them to work. They already worked to survive. Rome wasn't handing out food stamps, and there was no incentive to stay on their parent's insurance plan. ;)

What Jesus taught them was not to put the importance of money ahead of the importance of the soul.

Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
:)

Yes. I understand that Jesus was is god. I also understand that Jesus was a Coservative. Not a socialist.
 
Mary, are you under the assumption that Jesus didn't exist? We aren't left alone to answer life's questions. The Bible is our instruction manual. It was compiled supernaturally, and it answers your questions.
Jesus carried no sword. He is the most humble and gentlest of creatures.

elektra, Jesus took fishermen and made them fishers of men. Prior to that they fished because they needed to exist. If they had no livestock, they had to purchase their goat milk or wool. And people with no boats had to rely on fishermen to bring them fish. There was commerce before Jesus showed up. He didn't have to teach them to work. They already worked to survive. Rome wasn't handing out food stamps, and there was no incentive to stay on their parent's insurance plan. ;)

What Jesus taught them was not to put the importance of money ahead of the importance of the soul.

Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
:)

Yes. I understand that Jesus was is god. I also understand that Jesus was a Coservative. Not a socialist.




Jesus taught as did Paul---only the Father is God--John 17:1-6--1 Corinthians 8:6----
 
Mary, are you under the assumption that Jesus didn't exist? We aren't left alone to answer life's questions. The Bible is our instruction manual. It was compiled supernaturally, and it answers your questions.
Jesus carried no sword. He is the most humble and gentlest of creatures.

elektra, Jesus took fishermen and made them fishers of men. Prior to that they fished because they needed to exist. If they had no livestock, they had to purchase their goat milk or wool. And people with no boats had to rely on fishermen to bring them fish. There was commerce before Jesus showed up. He didn't have to teach them to work. They already worked to survive. Rome wasn't handing out food stamps, and there was no incentive to stay on their parent's insurance plan. ;)

What Jesus taught them was not to put the importance of money ahead of the importance of the soul.


:)

Yes. I understand that Jesus was is god. I also understand that Jesus was a Coservative. Not a socialist.




Jesus taught as did Paul---only the Father is God--John 17:1-6--1 Corinthians 8:6----

Could we have a bit more or was that it? The Bible is a big book.
 
You think, if Jesus was real, would he have owned a gun? Would he marry a man? There is a rich root to be taped here. I have waited in a hypothetical pumpkin patch or two. We are left to answer these questions alone, no supernatural powers or nothing. Money talks, they say, BS walks. Actually, BS has been maintaining well in the last twenty years. But, money seems to be gaining the upper hand now. Yey! That's America for ya.

money, I agree, has the upper hand.

And unlike Jesus, you celebrate this.

He's just choosing his god.
 
Mary, are you under the assumption that Jesus didn't exist? We aren't left alone to answer life's questions. The Bible is our instruction manual. It was compiled supernaturally, and it answers your questions.
Jesus carried no sword. He is the most humble and gentlest of creatures.

elektra, Jesus took fishermen and made them fishers of men. Prior to that they fished because they needed to exist. If they had no livestock, they had to purchase their goat milk or wool. And people with no boats had to rely on fishermen to bring them fish. There was commerce before Jesus showed up. He didn't have to teach them to work. They already worked to survive. Rome wasn't handing out food stamps, and there was no incentive to stay on their parent's insurance plan. ;)

What Jesus taught them was not to put the importance of money ahead of the importance of the soul.

Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
:)

Yes. I understand that Jesus was is god. I also understand that Jesus was a Coservative. Not a socialist.

Don't know what a "coservative" is. But I do know there's no democracy in heaven, no money in heaven everything is free. Jesus wouldn't destroy Social Security and throw the elderly out in the street. He wouldn't destroy welfare and throw the poor out in the street. And he wouldn't destroy healthcare and throw the sick out in the street. He wouldn't destroy food stamps and deny food to the hungry. Jesus is the original liberal. He liberates the enslaved from the chains of the greedy capitalists.
 
If Jesus was both rich and powerful, how did a bunch old and tired jewish rabbis, from a broken nation over run by corrupt Romans, were able to capture and try him?

Something does not add up here. I read the bible concerning Judas betrayal of Jesus and I seriously doubt that a few silver coins could persuade anyone to sell out a rich and powerful Jesus.

A poor and forgiving Jesus, yes. But a rich and powerful Jesus? No.
 
If Jesus was both rich and powerful, how did a bunch old and tired jewish rabbis, from a broken nation over run by corrupt Romans, were able to capture and try him?

Something does not add up here. I read the bible concerning Judas betrayal of Jesus and I seriously doubt that a few silver coins could persuade anyone to sell out a rich and powerful Jesus.

A poor and forgiving Jesus, yes. But a rich and powerful Jesus? No.

Of course not, the rich and powerful are never betrayed, just ask Billionaire NBA Clippers owner Donald Sterling.
 
Jesus was a rich conservative industrialist

This thread illustrates how cons use the christian religion to justify their ideology, the same way Al Qaeda uses the Muslim religion.
 
If Jesus was both rich and powerful, how did a bunch old and tired jewish rabbis, from a broken nation over run by corrupt Romans, were able to capture and try him?

Something does not add up here. I read the bible concerning Judas betrayal of Jesus and I seriously doubt that a few silver coins could persuade anyone to sell out a rich and powerful Jesus.

A poor and forgiving Jesus, yes. But a rich and powerful Jesus? No.

Christ let them take Him. He could have left at any time if He wanted.

He came into the world to be a sacrifice of sin. How could He voluntarily sacrifice Himself if He fought it every step of the way?
 
Jesus was a rich conservative industrialist

This thread illustrates how cons use the christian religion to justify their ideology, the same way Al Qaeda uses the Muslim religion.

By promoting hard work and liberty? Why wouldn't we do that?

Christ taught us to work hard.

Christ came to free us.

Why then would we want to deny either?
 
If Jesus was both rich and powerful, how did a bunch old and tired jewish rabbis, from a broken nation over run by corrupt Romans, were able to capture and try him?

Something does not add up here. I read the bible concerning Judas betrayal of Jesus and I seriously doubt that a few silver coins could persuade anyone to sell out a rich and powerful Jesus.

A poor and forgiving Jesus, yes. But a rich and powerful Jesus? No.


Jesus wasn't rich--at tax time he sent to get a fish which had a coin in it to pay the taxes. Gods word says---satan entered Judas to do what he did.
 
If Jesus was both rich and powerful, how did a bunch old and tired jewish rabbis, from a broken nation over run by corrupt Romans, were able to capture and try him?

Something does not add up here. I read the bible concerning Judas betrayal of Jesus and I seriously doubt that a few silver coins could persuade anyone to sell out a rich and powerful Jesus.

A poor and forgiving Jesus, yes. But a rich and powerful Jesus? No.


Jesus wasn't rich--at tax time he sent to get a fish which had a coin in it to pay the taxes. Gods word says---satan entered Judas to do what he did.

Jesus also told Judas, "Go and do what you MUST do." It was his destiny. It had to be done in order for Jesus to fulfill his destiny.
 

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