Zone1 Question about Jesus

[Arlette]

Why was Jesus asleep in the boat during the storm?

He wasn't

 

[ding]

He wasn't

Sure he was. Matthew 8:24, Suddenly a violent storm came up on the sea, so that the boat was being swamped by waves; but he was asleep.

I thought you said nobody knew more about Jesus than you?

So why was he asleep?

 

[Arlette]

Sure he was. Matthew 8:24, Suddenly a violent storm came up on the sea, so that the boat was being swamped by waves; but he was asleep.

I thought you said nobody knew more about Jesus than you?

So why was he asleep?

He wasn't asleep. It was a test

 

[Arlette]

The first thing you need to know about Jesus is that he knew as a child that Joseph wasn't his real dad. He got teased and bullied about it. So little Jesus decided to invent himself his real dad, a God, all powerful and all knowing. He kept on and on about it until people realized that he was a bit batty in the head. Basically Jesus had an undiagnosed mental illness. Later they nailed him to a cross and he lost one of his sandals.

 

[JohnDB]

Let's just say this...

Those who have doctorates in Mideival French poetry are not that fun at parties.

Those who excel at 5,700 year old Hebrew poetry are even less fun.

 

[crossbody]

Were you there with Jesus every moment of his life? I have no doubt that he laughed and enjoyed life, the people, the children and his family.
There is proof God has a sense of humor. Just look at the human "Knees." I'm sure he and the other Gods got a good laugh when designing our knees.

Jesus was always about the "KINGDOM OF HEAVEN-KINGDOM OF GOD" Jesus was not on earth to enjoy life. That was NOT his purpose from God.

Jesus never built a friendship with this world. Jesus' purpose from God was to become the ultimate and final sacrifice, the perfect (without blemish) sacrifice for our sins. Jesus' purpose was to be a sacrificial lamb; to shed his innocent blood because everyone around him on earth was dead to the truth of God, dying in their sins, full of dry bones that needed speaking to, and headed straight to hell without a Savior. Jesus' purpose was pain, agony, grief, tears, etc.... Jesus' purpose was to suffer for the love of others, and no greater love than a man lay down his life for a friend.

James 4:4 You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Jesus preached in synagogues, Jesus prayed to God over and over and over again. Jesus was never on earth to enjoy this place.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”

 

[Cougarbear]

Jesus was always about the "KINGDOM OF HEAVEN-KINGDOM OF GOD" Jesus was not on earth to enjoy life. That was NOT his purpose from God.

Jesus never built a friendship with this world. Jesus' purpose from God was to become the ultimate and final sacrifice, the perfect (without blemish) sacrifice for our sins. Jesus' purpose was to be a sacrificial lamb; to shed his innocent blood because everyone around him on earth was dead to the truth of God, dying in their sins, full of dry bones that needed speaking to, and headed straight to hell without a Savior. Jesus' purpose was pain, agony, grief, tears, etc.... Jesus' purpose was to suffer for the love of others, and no greater love than a man lay down his life for a friend.

James 4:4 You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Jesus preached in synagogues, Jesus prayed to God over and over and over again. Jesus was never on earth to enjoy this place.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”

You are really full of yourself with unrighteous pride. You so badly misunderstand what you read. Friends with the world meant with worldly sinful things and people. That doesn’t mean he didn’t have friends and enjoyed life. He loved his family and enjoyed being with them. And once again, you weren’t with him. All you have are a few words representing a few minutes out of his 33 years of life. You have no idea.

 

[SweetSue92]

There is never a reason to just make things up such Jesus ate joyfully. That is not mentioned any where in scriptures.

There were other people Jesus ate with, but it was just a meal. It was not a secular "LOL" event. Jesus was always serious.

Jesus was always serious about serious things, as is right. But He loved children, as just one evidence of a joyful heart. He said, "I came that they may have LIFE, and have it TO THE FULL."

And you think he didn't laugh?

He was a child--and he didn't laugh?

Wow, okay

 

[ding]

He wasn't asleep. It was a test

Why do you say that?

 

[ding]

The first thing you need to know about Jesus is that he knew as a child that Joseph wasn't his real dad. He got teased and bullied about it. So little Jesus decided to invent himself his real dad, a God, all powerful and all knowing. He kept on and on about it until people realized that he was a bit batty in the head. Basically Jesus had an undiagnosed mental illness. Later they nailed him to a cross and he lost one of his sandals.

That's quite an imagination you have there.

 

[alang1216]

Pretty sure. Why? Is there some clever point you wish to make?

Nothing clever, just trying to understand. 2 Samuel 6 is all about David so it would seem 2 Samuel 7, where your quote is from (5 “Go and tell my servant David, ‘This is what the Lord says: Are you the one to build me a house to dwell in?") is a conversation about David. Am I missing something?

 

[ding]

Nothing clever, just trying to understand. 2 Samuel 6 is all about David so it would seem 2 Samuel 7, where your quote is from (5 “Go and tell my servant David, ‘This is what the Lord says: Are you the one to build me a house to dwell in?") is a conversation about David. Am I missing something?

Nope. That's about right. David was lamenting the fact that he had built himself a grand palace and the Covenant of the Ark was still kept in a tent. David makes a grand promise to build a proper palace to house the Covenant of the Ark. God basically tells Samuel to tell his servant David that he doesn't need his help. I thought it was funny as hell.

 

[alang1216]

Nope. That's about right. David was lamenting the fact that he had built himself a grand palace and the Covenant of the Ark was still kept in a tent. David makes a grand promise to build a proper palace to house the Covenant of the Ark. God basically tells Samuel to tell his servant David that he doesn't need his help. I thought it was funny as hell.

Samuel or Nathan? I still don't get it.

 

[ding]

Samuel or Nathan? I still don't get it.

I thought it was Samuel. It that important to you? I'm going off of memory here. I'm not perfect.

What don't you get?

 

[JohnDB]

Sure he was. Matthew 8:24, Suddenly a violent storm came up on the sea, so that the boat was being swamped by waves; but he was asleep.

I thought you said nobody knew more about Jesus than you?

So why was he asleep?

Exhaustion. Jesus had a relentless schedule of preaching sermons in poetry, healing people, and praying through the night. His voice had to be hoarse and between the heat and long long day....exhausted. Being the Son of God he had nothing to fear. He always knew his fate. It was well prophesied.
Jesus's knowledge is a bit of mystery as much of his activities were predicted extensively before He ever showed up. But in other instances He was surprised. So there was self-imposed limits on his knowledge as well.
The Sea of Galilee is the size of a small lake. You can see the other side quite easily during the day. A storm rising up quickly is not unheard of because of its elevation is below sea level.

The funniest story is in the feeding of 5,000 when he tells Phillip to get bread. Phillip has to be wide eyed with the opportunity to perform a service for his schmeekah rabbi....just to find out it's impossible. But then the little boy brings his lunch to Jesus and Jesus sends Phillip off to get the people to sit in groups of 50 since he can't seem to do anything else Jesus asks like that little boy did.

Phillip is the clown who knows everyone everywhere and gets caught up in talking to everyone. Has to be interrupted to attend to following Jesus.

 

[alang1216]

I thought it was Samuel. It that important to you? I'm going off of memory here. I'm not perfect.

What don't you get?

Not important at all. Nevermind.

 

[Road Runner]

He was a child--and he didn't laugh?

Wow, okay

My words exactly. I'm sure He giggled an awful lot as a baby and a small child. That isn't a sin.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

I thought it was Samuel. It that important to you? I'm going off of memory here. I'm not perfect.

What don't you get?

You talking about me?