Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

[RodISHI]

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

Because they were persecuted without a just cause.

Regards
DL

Perhaps but then who is it that is actually human without sin? Only One I know of.

 

[irosie91]

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

Because they were persecuted without a just cause.

Regards
DL

Perhaps but then who is it that is actually human without sin? Only One I know of.

are we doing phenomenology now? I'm game

 

[RodISHI]

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

Because they were persecuted without a just cause.

Regards
DL

Perhaps but then who is it that is actually human without sin? Only One I know of.

are we doing phenomenology now? I'm game

I suppose we could but this is a new word and concept for me so it may take me a bit to understand what you are getting at.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

The racism that many show against Jews, must by definition include Jesus, as he only taught Jewish traditions along with his criticisms of it. This included the Jewish esoteric and mystical teachings similar to Gnostic Christian thinking. Jesus’ forte.

Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus and thus the Jews hold no blame.

Yahweh loved the Jews and it seems counter intuitive to have religions like Christianity and Islam, who have usurped the Jewish Yahweh and Jesus from the Jews, to try to take the Jew out of Jesus and hating that Jewishness.

Jewry is the root and patriarch of Christianity and Islam, yet those religions do not seem to respect their own Jewish roots.

Roots should be revered. Christians and Muslims do not love or respect their religious fathers and mothers; so to speak.

Jesus was a Jew.

Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

Regards
DL

Greatestlam wrote:
"Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus thus the Jews hold no blame."
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RL replies:

The Jewish Sanhedrin, had it wanted, could have carried out a death penalty against Jesus as it did with Jewish Stephen (d. 34 CE), considered as the Church's first martyr (see Acts, chapters 6-7).

Let's look at the Marcan and Matthean books to see who killed Jesus:

"Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be handed over to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn him to death and hand him over to the GENTILES who will mock him, spit upon him, scourge him, and PUT HIM TO DEATH ..." -- Mark 10:33,34 [All emphases mine]

"Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be handed over to the chief priests and the scribes, and they will condemn him to death, and hand him over to the GENTILES to be mocked and scourged and CRUCIFIED ..." -- Matthew 20:18,19 [All emphases mine]

Here's Roman historian Tacitus (ca.56-ca.117) on the matter:

"Christus ... was put to death by Pontius Pilate" -- (from his work, Annals 15:44)

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Several reasons; their teachers have been teaching in error, they are blinded in their own sin, they still are asleep in the dust/confusion of the earth, they don't get the part in Romans were they are told not to do these things.

Why do some think that when a vision is given it is or they are given a message from a relative that has passed it is of the devil? Same thing, they simply do not know any better.

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

RodISI wrote:
"Why do some Jews hate Christians?"
= = = = = = = =

RL replies:

Oh, I don't know, it might be due to the 1,900-plus years of Christian anti-Semitism that as led to many Jews being massacred -- think, blood libels, where Jews were accused of sacrificing gentile children for their rituals; host libels; the 14th Cen. Black Plague; the 1555 papal bull of Pope Paul IV secluding the Jewish People in ghettos; the autos-de-fe; the Passion plays that after their end would result in whole Jewish communities being terrorized; the pogroms. The Holocaust!

 

[MAGAman]

Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

The racism that many show against Jews, must by definition include Jesus, as he only taught Jewish traditions along with his criticisms of it. This included the Jewish esoteric and mystical teachings similar to Gnostic Christian thinking. Jesus’ forte.

Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus and thus the Jews hold no blame.

Yahweh loved the Jews and it seems counter intuitive to have religions like Christianity and Islam, who have usurped the Jewish Yahweh and Jesus from the Jews, to try to take the Jew out of Jesus and hating that Jewishness.

Jewry is the root and patriarch of Christianity and Islam, yet those religions do not seem to respect their own Jewish roots.

Roots should be revered. Christians and Muslims do not love or respect their religious fathers and mothers; so to speak.

Jesus was a Jew.

Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

Regards
DL

Bible believing Christian's dont hate Jews.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Who are the Jews?

Who did Jesus consider to be a Jew? The other question could be is a Jew one who lives by faith or are you just considering human genes?

Well the answer is simple, they are arabs.

"jews are arabs" is an islamo Nazi meme. Even in biblical times
the people called "arabs" or "ishmaelites" were not jews.
Baathism is the ideology which our dear penny touts-----it is a
middle eastern form of Nazism. Even Iranians----who DESPISE
BOTH ARABS AND JEWS-----do not imagine that jews are arabs
but they could be easily convinced. They could also be easily
convinced that Zoroastrians are jews.........or arabs........and then
there are the hated christians

Jews are just from Judea, I guess you dismiss and insulted that you once were arabs, well all different nationalities now. The Palestinians are the original Canaanites, but you know that.

Penelope wrote:
"The Palestinians are the original Canaanites ..."
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RL replies:

Let's see if this is true or nonsense.

Almut Nebel's 2001 study, The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East found that, "[T]he Y chromosomes in Palestinian Arabs and Bedouins represent, to a large extent, early lineages derived from the Neolithic inhabitants of the area and additional lineages from more-recent population movements. The early lineages are part of the common chromosome pool shared with Jews. According to our working model, the more-recent migrations were mostly from the ARABIAN PENINSULA [emphasis mine], as is seen in the Arab-specific Eu 10 chromosomes that include the modal haplotypes observed in Palestinians and Bedouins."

Yeah, just as I'd figured -- nonsense.

 

[Andylusion]

Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

The racism that many show against Jews, must by definition include Jesus, as he only taught Jewish traditions along with his criticisms of it. This included the Jewish esoteric and mystical teachings similar to Gnostic Christian thinking. Jesus’ forte.

Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus and thus the Jews hold no blame.

Yahweh loved the Jews and it seems counter intuitive to have religions like Christianity and Islam, who have usurped the Jewish Yahweh and Jesus from the Jews, to try to take the Jew out of Jesus and hating that Jewishness.

Jewry is the root and patriarch of Christianity and Islam, yet those religions do not seem to respect their own Jewish roots.

Roots should be revered. Christians and Muslims do not love or respect their religious fathers and mothers; so to speak.

Jesus was a Jew.

Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

Regards
DL

For "Christians" it's because they are simply not Christian. Fact is, if you read the Bible, it is absolutely impossible to come to any conclusion that involves hate for Jews. It's ridiculous. Jesus was a Jew, Jesus said to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, everything in the Bible points to the idea that G-d blesses those that bless his people, and curses those who curse his people.

So the whole thing is ridiculous. For anyone to call themselves a Christian, and even talk bad about Jews, is about as close to pure insanity, as one can get.

The bottom line is, Christian that hates Jews is either just a fake Christian... or he's been involved with a screwed up cult belief system.

As for Muslims, the problem there goes back to Isaac and Ishmael. Muslims trace their spiritual faith through Ishmael, and claim that he was the child of promise, rather than Isaac. Isaac of course had Jacob whose family became the 12 tribes of Israel.

This difference in the story, leads those who follow it, to believe the Jews have been deceived into believing a lie, that they were never supposed to have the promised land, and that they are usurpers on the area that was supposed to be for Ishmael.

Basically it's a 4,000 year old sibling rivalry. Additionally I think that people for political and religious purposes have stoked this hatred for their own personal gain. Having a reason to hate a group of people, is a powerful way of gaining support to yourself, as many in Islam, and in the governments of the middle east have found.

And by the way, we see this in the Democrat party in America too. Gotta stop those evil CEOs, right?

All that said... it is rather baffling that Muslims still believe in their ideology, because just judging the two theories based on their historical statements........

It means that all the promises giving by G-d according to the Quran, to Ishmael have failed consistently to happen for nearly 4,000 years.... and all the promises given to the Jews, by G-d according to the Bible have consistently happened for nearly 4,000 years.

That's the part I don't get. Your book is wrong, and my book is right.... but none of the promises in my book has happened in 4,000 years, and nearly everything promised in your book has happened.... but my book is right, and yours is false.

Oh and by the way, even the promises in your book, about the people of Ishmael, has also all come true as well.... but it's still wrong, and our book is right.

So I don't know how the Muslims reconcile those facts, but that's where they generally speaking, stand on this.

 

[ding]

Several reasons; their teachers have been teaching in error, they are blinded in their own sin, they still are asleep in the dust/confusion of the earth, they don't get the part in Romans were they are told not to do these things.

Why do some think that when a vision is given it is or they are given a message from a relative that has passed it is of the devil? Same thing, they simply do not know any better.

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

RodISI wrote:
"Why do some Jews hate Christians?"
= = = = = = = =

RL replies:

Oh, I don't know, it might be due to the 1,900-plus years of Christian anti-Semitism that as led to many Jews being massacred -- think, blood libels, where Jews were accused of sacrificing gentile children for their rituals; host libels; the 14th Cen. Black Plague; the 1555 papal bull of Pope Paul IV secluding the Jewish People in ghettos; the autos-de-fe; the Passion plays that after their end would result in whole Jewish communities being terrorized; the pogroms. The Holocaust!

Interesting logic.

Based on that logic, it must be Ok for Palestinians to hate and attack Jews.

 

[RodISHI]

Several reasons; their teachers have been teaching in error, they are blinded in their own sin, they still are asleep in the dust/confusion of the earth, they don't get the part in Romans were they are told not to do these things.

Why do some think that when a vision is given it is or they are given a message from a relative that has passed it is of the devil? Same thing, they simply do not know any better.

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

RodISI wrote:
"Why do some Jews hate Christians?"
= = = = = = = =

RL replies:

Oh, I don't know, it might be due to the 1,900-plus years of Christian anti-Semitism that as led to many Jews being massacred -- think, blood libels, where Jews were accused of sacrificing gentile children for their rituals; host libels; the 14th Cen. Black Plague; the 1555 papal bull of Pope Paul IV secluding the Jewish People in ghettos; the autos-de-fe; the Passion plays that after their end would result in whole Jewish communities being terrorized; the pogroms. The Holocaust!

Have you heard some say that Assad was a Christian? People believe great lies; it is historic. It is not only Jews that have been slaughtered throughout history. Anyone is fair game when greed for power comes into play.

I've never hated Jews; And as MAGAman said, "Bible believing Christian's don't hate Jews." With that said many do not read and ask council from the Spirit of God for answers when they should be. People can get hung up on some pretty petty stuff at times; And when they get hung up in a spirit of error most do not know how to overcome it.

How many people and clans/groups through history have done evil things with the claim that they are doing it in the name of God? I don't think we could count them all.

 

[GreatestIam]

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

Because they were persecuted without a just cause.

Regards
DL

Perhaps but then who is it that is actually human without sin? Only One I know of.

You know that as a fact. Wow.

The bible must be lying then when it says that all humans are born with Original sin.

Right?

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

The racism that many show against Jews, must by definition include Jesus, as he only taught Jewish traditions along with his criticisms of it. This included the Jewish esoteric and mystical teachings similar to Gnostic Christian thinking. Jesus’ forte.

Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus and thus the Jews hold no blame.

Yahweh loved the Jews and it seems counter intuitive to have religions like Christianity and Islam, who have usurped the Jewish Yahweh and Jesus from the Jews, to try to take the Jew out of Jesus and hating that Jewishness.

Jewry is the root and patriarch of Christianity and Islam, yet those religions do not seem to respect their own Jewish roots.

Roots should be revered. Christians and Muslims do not love or respect their religious fathers and mothers; so to speak.

Jesus was a Jew.

Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

Regards
DL

Greatestlam wrote:
"Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus thus the Jews hold no blame."
= = = = = = = =

RL replies:

The Jewish Sanhedrin, had it wanted, could have carried out a death penalty against Jesus as it did with Jewish Stephen (d. 34 CE), considered as the Church's first martyr (see Acts, chapters 6-7).

Let's look at the Marcan and Matthean books to see who killed Jesus:

"Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be handed over to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn him to death and hand him over to the GENTILES who will mock him, spit upon him, scourge him, and PUT HIM TO DEATH ..." -- Mark 10:33,34 [All emphases mine]

"Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be handed over to the chief priests and the scribes, and they will condemn him to death, and hand him over to the GENTILES to be mocked and scourged and CRUCIFIED ..." -- Matthew 20:18,19 [All emphases mine]

Here's Roman historian Tacitus (ca.56-ca.117) on the matter:

"Christus ... was put to death by Pontius Pilate" -- (from his work, Annals 15:44)

Interesting commentary that does not assign the blame on the initiator or the one that demanded the sacrifice in the first place, even before the world was created. Yahweh.

1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

When god chose Jesus for death, he also had to insure and manipulate all the actors in that play.

The actors had no free will to not do god's bidding.

Tell us, if you were to demand a barbaric death, would you have your child sacrificed or would you do the right thing and step up yourself?

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

The racism that many show against Jews, must by definition include Jesus, as he only taught Jewish traditions along with his criticisms of it. This included the Jewish esoteric and mystical teachings similar to Gnostic Christian thinking. Jesus’ forte.

Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus and thus the Jews hold no blame.

Yahweh loved the Jews and it seems counter intuitive to have religions like Christianity and Islam, who have usurped the Jewish Yahweh and Jesus from the Jews, to try to take the Jew out of Jesus and hating that Jewishness.

Jewry is the root and patriarch of Christianity and Islam, yet those religions do not seem to respect their own Jewish roots.

Roots should be revered. Christians and Muslims do not love or respect their religious fathers and mothers; so to speak.

Jesus was a Jew.

Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

Regards
DL

Bible believing Christian's dont hate Jews.

I do not know of any bible believers or people of faith.

I would if they existed because your bible has Jesus saying that any who have a real faith or belief in him will be able to do all he did and more.

I am still waiting for the first Christian to rise out of the rest of the Christian hypocrites and liars who say they believe or have faith.

That may be why the intelligentsia say that the only good Christian is Gnostic Christian. We put man above the gods we create and do not idol worship a genocidal and infanticidal god not have homophobia and misogyny as a part of our ideology.

If you wish to get moral, try it.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

The bottom line is, Christian that hates Jews is either just a fake Christian... or he's been involved with a screwed up cult belief system.

I would say that Christians generally fit both categories.

I liked your religious stance but you should stay out of the political. Wrong forum and wrong notions and this ends that talk.

Regards
DL

 

[irosie91]

Several reasons; their teachers have been teaching in error, they are blinded in their own sin, they still are asleep in the dust/confusion of the earth, they don't get the part in Romans were they are told not to do these things.

Why do some think that when a vision is given it is or they are given a message from a relative that has passed it is of the devil? Same thing, they simply do not know any better.

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

RodISI wrote:
"Why do some Jews hate Christians?"
= = = = = = = =

RL replies:

Oh, I don't know, it might be due to the 1,900-plus years of Christian anti-Semitism that as led to many Jews being massacred -- think, blood libels, where Jews were accused of sacrificing gentile children for their rituals; host libels; the 14th Cen. Black Plague; the 1555 papal bull of Pope Paul IV secluding the Jewish People in ghettos; the autos-de-fe; the Passion plays that after their end would result in whole Jewish communities being terrorized; the pogroms. The Holocaust!

Interesting logic.

Based on that logic, it must be Ok for Palestinians to hate and attack Jews.

justify that ^^^^^ tidbit of desperate, idiotic sophistry -----try hard

 

[Indeependent]

Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

The racism that many show against Jews, must by definition include Jesus, as he only taught Jewish traditions along with his criticisms of it. This included the Jewish esoteric and mystical teachings similar to Gnostic Christian thinking. Jesus’ forte.

Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus and thus the Jews hold no blame.

Yahweh loved the Jews and it seems counter intuitive to have religions like Christianity and Islam, who have usurped the Jewish Yahweh and Jesus from the Jews, to try to take the Jew out of Jesus and hating that Jewishness.

Jewry is the root and patriarch of Christianity and Islam, yet those religions do not seem to respect their own Jewish roots.

Roots should be revered. Christians and Muslims do not love or respect their religious fathers and mothers; so to speak.

Jesus was a Jew.

Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

Regards
DL

Try reading Tanach from Verse 1:1 and then see how both Christianity and Islam have perverted Tanach in order to create the NEW religion.
They weren't trying to create a child, they were trying to become THE religion.

 

[irosie91]

Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

The racism that many show against Jews, must by definition include Jesus, as he only taught Jewish traditions along with his criticisms of it. This included the Jewish esoteric and mystical teachings similar to Gnostic Christian thinking. Jesus’ forte.

Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus and thus the Jews hold no blame.

Yahweh loved the Jews and it seems counter intuitive to have religions like Christianity and Islam, who have usurped the Jewish Yahweh and Jesus from the Jews, to try to take the Jew out of Jesus and hating that Jewishness.

Jewry is the root and patriarch of Christianity and Islam, yet those religions do not seem to respect their own Jewish roots.

Roots should be revered. Christians and Muslims do not love or respect their religious fathers and mothers; so to speak.

Jesus was a Jew.

Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

Regards
DL

Try reading Tanach from Verse 1:1 and then see how both Christianity and Islam have perverted Tanach in order to create the NEW religion.
They weren't trying to create a child, they were trying to become THE religion.

so true-------then read the NT ------and make note of the words that can
LOGICALLY be attributed to Jesus------IN HIS TIME........then make note
of the claims made by people who never met him and did not even understand
his language. Next consider the times and places and persons who invented
christianity

 

[irosie91]

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

Because they were persecuted without a just cause.

Regards
DL

Perhaps but then who is it that is actually human without sin? Only One I know of.

You know that as a fact. Wow.

The bible must be lying then when it says that all humans are born with Original sin.

Right?

Regards
DL

where does it say that?

 

[Indeependent]

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

Because they were persecuted without a just cause.

Regards
DL

Perhaps but then who is it that is actually human without sin? Only One I know of.

You know that as a fact. Wow.

The bible must be lying then when it says that all humans are born with Original sin.

Right?

Regards
DL

Please provide the verse.
It's probably from the New Testament.

 

[ding]

Several reasons; their teachers have been teaching in error, they are blinded in their own sin, they still are asleep in the dust/confusion of the earth, they don't get the part in Romans were they are told not to do these things.

Why do some think that when a vision is given it is or they are given a message from a relative that has passed it is of the devil? Same thing, they simply do not know any better.

Why do some Jews hate Christians?

RodISI wrote:
"Why do some Jews hate Christians?"
= = = = = = = =

RL replies:

Oh, I don't know, it might be due to the 1,900-plus years of Christian anti-Semitism that as led to many Jews being massacred -- think, blood libels, where Jews were accused of sacrificing gentile children for their rituals; host libels; the 14th Cen. Black Plague; the 1555 papal bull of Pope Paul IV secluding the Jewish People in ghettos; the autos-de-fe; the Passion plays that after their end would result in whole Jewish communities being terrorized; the pogroms. The Holocaust!

Interesting logic.

Based on that logic, it must be Ok for Palestinians to hate and attack Jews.

justify that ^^^^^ tidbit of desperate, idiotic sophistry -----try hard

So what’s good for the goose isn’t good for the gander?