Jan. 6th incident

[rightwinger]

Deadly force is only warranted when the threat of death exists. The woman didn't pose such a threat...she had no weapon nor made no threat.

An angry mob is not a threat?

Mark and Patricia McCloskey thought so, yet they didn't shoot anyone and are still facing charges. Can't say the same for the BLM supporting cop that actually killed Babbitt.

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Did the mob storm their home threatening to capture them?

 

[OKTexas]

Deadly force is only warranted when the threat of death exists. The woman didn't pose such a threat...she had no weapon nor made no threat.

An angry mob is not a threat?

Mark and Patricia McCloskey thought so, yet they didn't shoot anyone and are still facing charges. Can't say the same for the BLM supporting cop that actually killed Babbitt.

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Did the mob storm their home threatening to capture them?

They said they were going to take their home and kill them. Also the capitol is the house of the people, not elected officials, we give them permission to earn a living there.

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[lennypartiv]

Still an insurrection

It looked like a protest to me.

 

[dudmuck]

Still an insurrection

It looked like a protest to me.

yes, protest with guns

DOJ Says Capitol Rioter Was Armed Despite Republicans Claims Otherwise

At least 15 people have been charged with carrying a deadly or dangerous weapon during the Capitol riots, despite Republican claims that the insurrectionists weren't armed.

www.newsweek.com

Man Who Kicked Up His Feet on Desk in Nancy Pelosi's Office Had a Stun Gun, Feds Say

The smirking photo of Richard “Bigo” Barnett, the 60-year-old self-proclaimed white nationalist seen with his feet on a desk in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office, quickly became an iconic image of defilement of the seat of power. A close-up image showed something else that was shocking.

www.lawandcrime.com

 

[hunarcy]

Originally, I read that the cost was over 2 Billion dollars in damage and 6 people died. At least that's what the legacy media said. Then, they are silently walking that back. Facts show however: one person was killed. Ashli Babbitt. Killed by a nameless DC COP that shot through a door. And the actual cost, hard to find, but I found it was more like half a million. Why does the media and the Democrats continually exaggerate and focus on IT and ignore and downplay the cost monetarily and in lives of the ongoing damage done in the last year of race riots THEY supported?

The video of the insurrectionist getting shot shows her climbing through a window. You're lying. Again.

She did not threaten anyone's life. Why was deadly force necessary?

Lets see, a cop was killed, 140 other cops were injured.
Yes it was.

Lets go back in time....

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/msnbc-is-seething-its-open-season-on-black-boys.302922/page-2#post-7535623

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Funny how you seem to change your position based on who was shot.

It's sad to see you turn into a dishonest pile of dung. First, it wasn't a case for "stand your ground" because it wasn't in a home and the policeman was not directly threatened by the woman.

Oh bullshit. So should he have shot the next person through?

Second, even with "stand your ground", there has to be circumstances where a reasonable person would feel threatened. Breaking in a window in a public building in broad daylight is not such a circumstance.

During a riot.

Yeah..to call you a dishonest pile of dung is to offend piles of dung everywhere.

A cop died (stroke) but not near her. Cops were injured and people should go to jail over that, but there's nothing that indicates the woman was involved in any of that. So, your false equivalency falls flat. And, while I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and not cast you into irrelevancy, if your comment was an attempt by to slyly imply I'm racist, **** you very much.

Someone's going to dance with a needle in Terre Haute for killing a cop.

It wasn't to imply you're a racist. It was to imply that since you agreed with Babbitt's politics, you don't think the shooting was justified. If you owned a store and had an armed security guard and someone busted the window to come into the store...you'd be screaming for the guard to shoot the person coming through the window. You know it. I know it. You, in no way, would tell them, "Well, they don't mean you any harm". If you want to say something different, it will just further cement your status as being as delusional as you are dishonest. **** YOU very much.

So shooting unarmed people for trespass during a riot is justified, GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You might want to inform BLM and ANTIFA of the rule change.

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Great... hope someone breaks down the front door to your house. I know you'll ask them to please not "trespass" and not think about doing them bodily harm.

Damn, two replies to one post, are you getting that senile But if they break down my door, they'll have done more that just trespass. As far as anyone knows, Babbitt didn't break anything or threaten anyone with great bodily harm.

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You have seen the video of her climbing through the window of a barricaded door, right?

Did she break the window, or display a weapon?

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She was leading an angry mob trying to capture a Congressman

Cost her life

She was the leader of the mob? How do you know?

She was leading them through the gap in the window
If she was a follower, she would still be alive

How stupid.

 

[hunarcy]

Deadly force is only warranted when the threat of death exists. The woman didn't pose such a threat...she had no weapon nor made no threat.

An angry mob is not a threat?

So, the one woman was an angry mob?

 

[Faun]

Deadly force is only warranted when the threat of death exists. The woman didn't pose such a threat...she had no weapon nor made no threat.

An angry mob is not a threat?

So, the one woman was an angry mob?

No, she was just one woman. One very dumb woman. The mob behind was the angry mob.

 

[lennypartiv]

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Did the mob storm their home threatening to capture them?

Why do you libs insist on using terms like insurrection and mob? Are you always looking to score political points?

 

[OKTexas]

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Did the mob storm their home threatening to capture them?

Why do you libs insist on using terms like insurrection and mob? Are you always looking to score political points?

It's all about the propaganda, just that simple.

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[lennypartiv]

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It's all about the propaganda, just that simple.

Goebbels would be proud of Trump's enemies.

 

[Winco]

Babbitt was a traitor to her Country.
She broke in (not let in) and attempted to enter a restricted area that was in clear view of lawmakers down the same hallway.
What was Babbitt going to do if she successfully breached that smashed in window?

Boyland was overdosing on drugs (autopsy confirms) and got trampled by trump insurrectionists attempting to enter the Capitol (again, NOT let in). These moronic insurrectionists had no regard for her life, and they were only interested in entering the Capitol in an effort to stop the Certification. (Not a field trip or tourist trip).

Both of these women insurrectionists caused their own deaths.
Babbitt breached a restricted area and was rightfully shot and killed.
Boyland (like Floyd) overdosed and the trampling by trump insurrections lead to her sooner death.
Boyland may have died by an overdose but she was murdered by trump supporters (not unseen Capitol police)

 

[hunarcy]

Babbitt was a traitor to her Country.
She broke in (not let in) and attempted to enter a restricted area that was in clear view of lawmakers down the same hallway.
What was Babbitt going to do if she successfully breached that smashed in window?

Boyland was overdosing on drugs (autopsy confirms) and got trampled by trump insurrectionists attempting to enter the Capitol (again, NOT let in). These moronic insurrectionists had no regard for her life, and they were only interested in entering the Capitol in an effort to stop the Certification. (Not a field trip or tourist trip).

Both of these women insurrectionists caused their own deaths.
Babbitt breached a restricted area and was rightfully shot and killed.
Boyland (like Floyd) overdosed and the trampling by trump insurrections lead to her sooner death.
Boyland may have died by an overdose but she was murdered by trump supporters (not unseen Capitol police)

The word traitor has a specific meaning under the Constitution. Explain how Babbitt was a traitor.

We have a tradition of respecting human life, so how is it appropriate to take a life to protect property, even a "restricted" area? Whose life was she threatening? Do you have evidence she had a weapon and was threatening anyone?

 

[Mac1958]

Its not about the money
It is about the assault on our nation

It was just a little incident.

COVID is just a little cold.

That’s Trumpism.

 

[Kondor3]

Originally, I read that the cost was over 2 Billion dollars in damage and 6 people died. At least that's what the legacy media said. Then, they are silently walking that back. Facts show however: one person was killed. Ashli Babbitt. Killed by a nameless DC COP that shot through a door. And the actual cost, hard to find, but I found it was more like half a million. Why does the media and the Democrats continually exaggerate and focus on IT and ignore and downplay the cost monetarily and in lives of the ongoing damage done in the last year of race riots THEY supported?

Doesn't matter that there were race riots earlier that year ( under the Rump Administration )...

What DOES matter is that January 6, 2021, was not an "incident"...

It was Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States and an assault upon Congress, interfering with a Constitutional process...

The more of those disloyal traitorous pieces of $hit that they crucify in the criminal law courts the better... time to break out the popcorn.

 

[Kondor3]

The word traitor has a specific meaning under the Constitution. Explain how Babbitt was a traitor.

We have a tradition of respecting human life, so how is it appropriate to take a life to protect property, even a "restricted" area? Whose life was she threatening? Do you have evidence she had a weapon and was threatening anyone?

There are traitors at-law and there are traitors in essence.

The vile dishonorable disloyal cult-member scum who assaulted the Capital on January 6, 2021, were traitors in essence, beyond the narrow criminal legal definition in the US.

They broke the faith and betrayed the People and their Republic and its Constitution... they are betrayers... traitors... regardless of whether they committed actual treason.

Judas Iscariot was a traitor... even though he never passed the US Constitution's sniff-test to be criminally charged with 'treason'.

The label "traitor" is a correct one, and the label stands.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Mystery solved!

I know why Republicans on this forum won't defend their party or discuss what their party is doing. Since they remain completely silent on the issues, I am forced to speak for them. If I get anything wrong, I'm all ears.

It's really very simple. Forum Republicans have nothing to work with.

The leader of the party was the Russian dictator's first choice. The leader of the party incited an insurrection on Jan. 6 caused by his insane assertion that the election was stolen from him. Then the leader of the party described those who engaged in the rampage upon our capitol a "loving crowd."

A Congressional investigation into all of this is about to begin, Republican leaders in the Senate are totally silent. There is not a word from them concerning the attack upon our capitol, during which they were victims, forced to run for cover from the violent right wing extremists loyal to the leader of their party.

Later Senate Republicans killed the bipartisan commission per the orders of the leader. So now we have a select committee in the House, and an investigation controlled by Democrats. Not very bright.

Does any of this make sense to anyone?

Then there is the confused Republican leader in the House where this important investigation is about to take place. First he blames the President, even calling Trump on Jan. 6 and pleading with him to call off the dogs. Then he changes his mind and goes to kiss the hand of the insurrection leader at his palace in Mar-a-Lago.

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarty's position now is, he does not want his party taking part in the investigation of the ransacking of our capitol during which five people were killed and over a hundred police officers were badly injured.

Nevertheless, two House Republicans, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, are interested in the truth and will take part in the investigation. Their voting records indicate they are more conservative than McCarthy and Trump isn't even close. McCarthy called them "Pelosi Republicans."

Cheney, the daughter of Dick Cheney, Bush's vice-president, told reporters she found the barb “pretty childish.”

“We've got serious business here. We have important work to do,” she added.

Now, after absorbing all that, try to mount a defense of the Republican Party. You can't.

It's really very simple.

The investigation of the Jan. 6 insurrection begins tomorrow.

 

[Winco]

The word traitor has a specific meaning under the Constitution. Explain how Babbitt was a traitor.

We have a tradition of respecting human life, so how is it appropriate to take a life to protect property, even a "restricted" area? Whose life was she threatening? Do you have evidence she had a weapon and was threatening anyone?

Definition of traitor​

1: one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty.

She served in the Military.
She has a Duty to her Country.
Her duty is NOT to overturn an election, Not to Stop the certification of the election.

It's pretty clear dude.


Whose Life was she threatening?

She breached that broken window with what intent?
We don't know, she's Dead.
Which is more likely, A or B?

A). Shake hands with lawmakers after she breached the window.
B). Confront the lawmakers after she breached the window.

 

[MaryL]

bels would be proud of Trump's enemies.

Being that we've had a year of a needless economic lock down over a mostly harmless virus that has a is 99% servirvability (You got that, right rate then the Democrats burn down cities & push a mostly harmful race riots NOBODY will notice, Because Lester Holt & the legacy main steam media says so.

Doesn't matter that there were race riots earlier that year ( under the Rump Administration )...

What DOES matter is that January 6, 2021, was not an "incident"...

It was Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States and an assault upon Congress, interfering with a Constitutional process...

The more of those disloyal traitorous pieces of $hit that they crucify in the criminal law courts the better... time to break out the popcorn.

Did the mob storm their home threatening to capture them?

So when... violent mobs of X extraction burns down cities for months (and terrorize the population) BUT is just a form of political expression , but when party Y does it on one day for 4 hours it's a an insurrection suddenly? Lucy, you got some Spalin to do!

 

[Lesh]

Being that we've had a year of a needless economic lock down over a mostly harmless virus that has a is 99% servirvability (You got that, right rate then the Democrats burn down cities & push a mostly harmful race riots NOBODY will notice, Because Lester Holt & the legacy main steam media says so.

**** your "Democrats burn down cities" and "mostly harmless virus"

You'd have to be a lying psychopath to say that

 

[MaryL]

Every single race riot we've had from Kenosha to Portland. Countless people died and the billions of real actual property damage done . BLM and Antifa need to be investigated, And every single Democrat that sides with them