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what these loons don't get is that if the tax rates were as high as they want, the rich would either leave the country of quit working when they hit 250K each year. No one is going to work their ass off to send most of it to the govt so the govt can send it to someone who is sitting on his ass with his hand out asking for free shit.
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your last sentence is correct. If the half of the country that is paying nothing had some skin in the game they might demand less govt so they could keep more of their money.
In 2008 Obama said that raising the debt ceiling was unpatriotic and would hurt our children, now he is saying that the country will fall into ruin if we don't raise it.
was he wrong then or is he wrong now? was he lying then or is he lying now?
Half the country isn't paying nothing.
Half the country directly or indirectly pays sales taxes, property taxes, state income taxes, Social security taxes, Medicare Taxes, fees, licenses and other ways the government squeezed blood from a turnip.
The Rich need to Man up and do their part.
And, yeah, there's a difference between raising the debt ceiling for paying for an illegal war and raising it to meet our obligations because Republicans crashed the economy.
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Instead of taxing what you define as rich, why not reduce taxes on business and eliminate ACA, which creates more jobs, which in turn increases the taxpayer base? Duh
-Geaux
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what these loons don't get is that if the tax rates were as high as they want, the rich would either leave the country of quit working when they hit 250K each year. No one is going to work their ass off to send most of it to the govt so the govt can send it to someone who is sitting on his ass with his hand out asking for free shit.
Where the fuck would they go? Every civilized country taxes the wealthy a LOT higher than we do.
The uncivilized ones, they might pay less in taxes, but they'd probably get kidnapped for huge ransoms, so there's that.
Fact is, under Eisenhower, the top marginal rate was 93%. Then Kennedy cut it to 70%, and the Republicans called him "Irresponsible" when he did it.
Oh, you hit that 93% rate when you made 400,000.
The greedy will not stop being greedy when they have to pay their fair share.
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Instead of taxing what you define as rich, why not reduce taxes on business and eliminate ACA, which creates more jobs, which in turn increases the taxpayer base? Duh
-Geaux
Supply Side doesn't work. Never did. Never will.
And incidently, our current system is ALREADY costing us jobs. I work for a mutli-National Corporation. In their European and Asian branches, the GOVERNMENT pays for health care. Which makes labor there a lot cheaper.
They do nothing but complain about how much it costs for health care NOW in the US. And this was well-before "ObamaCare".
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you are mixing your anger and envy of rich people with common sense. Yes, many CEOs make way too much, so do entertainers and athletes. Do you ever bitch about how much Jay Z makes? How about A-Rod?
I am glad to see that you are pissed about the obscene profits made by big pharma-------you do know that there is nothing in the ACA bill that will change that don't you?
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Instead of taxing what you define as rich, why not reduce taxes on business and eliminate ACA, which creates more jobs, which in turn increases the taxpayer base? Duh
-Geaux
Supply Side doesn't work. Never did. Never will.
And incidently, our current system is ALREADY costing us jobs. I work for a mutli-National Corporation. In their European and Asian branches, the GOVERNMENT pays for health care. Which makes labor there a lot cheaper.
They do nothing but complain about how much it costs for health care NOW in the US. And this was well-before "ObamaCare".
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you don't understand the tax code. the 93% was on "taxable income" after exemptions, deductions and credits. A person making $400K did not pay $372 in income taxes. Do you really think that a guy making 400K was living on 28K and giving the rest to the govt?
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Instead of taxing what you define as rich, why not reduce taxes on business and eliminate ACA, which creates more jobs, which in turn increases the taxpayer base? Duh
-Geaux
Supply Side doesn't work. Never did. Never will.
And incidently, our current system is ALREADY costing us jobs. I work for a mutli-National Corporation. In their European and Asian branches, the GOVERNMENT pays for health care. Which makes labor there a lot cheaper.
They do nothing but complain about how much it costs for health care NOW in the US. And this was well-before "ObamaCare".
where does the govt get the money to pay for healthcare?
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you are mixing your anger and envy of rich people with common sense. Yes, many CEOs make way too much, so do entertainers and athletes. Do you ever bitch about how much Jay Z makes? How about A-Rod?
I am glad to see that you are pissed about the obscene profits made by big pharma-------you do know that there is nothing in the ACA bill that will change that don't you?
Jay Z never killed anyone by denying her coverage AFTER her parents paid for it.
No, there are a LOT of problems ACA doesn't fix. But it does fix SOME of the problems.
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you don't understand the tax code. the 93% was on "taxable income" after exemptions, deductions and credits. A person making $400K did not pay $372 in income taxes. Do you really think that a guy making 400K was living on 28K and giving the rest to the govt?
No, but here's the gag. The guy making 400K had to prove he was doing something productive with that money, not just sitting at the side of his pool eating caviar.
In short- doing their part and paying their fair share.
Supply Side doesn't work. Never did. Never will.
And incidently, our current system is ALREADY costing us jobs. I work for a mutli-National Corporation. In their European and Asian branches, the GOVERNMENT pays for health care. Which makes labor there a lot cheaper.
They do nothing but complain about how much it costs for health care NOW in the US. And this was well-before "ObamaCare".
where does the govt get the money to pay for healthcare?
Appropriately taxing the wealthy, dumbass.
Which I know horrifies you.
Supply Side doesn't work. Never did. Never will.
And incidently, our current system is ALREADY costing us jobs. I work for a mutli-National Corporation. In their European and Asian branches, the GOVERNMENT pays for health care. Which makes labor there a lot cheaper.
They do nothing but complain about how much it costs for health care NOW in the US. And this was well-before "ObamaCare".
where does the govt get the money to pay for healthcare?
Appropriately taxing the wealthy, dumbass.
Which I know horrifies you.
But you never answered how poor people are to pay the premiums when they don't have jobs.
-Geaux
There are government subsidies for that.
But where does the rest come from?
-Geaux
where does the govt get the money to pay for healthcare?
Appropriately taxing the wealthy, dumbass.
Which I know horrifies you.
Joe
please read this article, its a few years old but still accurate. It shows who pays the biggest share of taxes vs income. Please take the time to read it.
Guess Who Really Pays the Taxes ? The American Magazine
Appropriately taxing the wealthy, dumbass.
Which I know horrifies you.
Joe
please read this article, its a few years old but still accurate. It shows who pays the biggest share of taxes vs income. Please take the time to read it.
Guess Who Really Pays the Taxes ? The American Magazine
Hint: Joe can't read. Now, if you have crayon drawings...
like most libtardians, he left the thread when confronted with the truth.
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you don't understand the tax code. the 93% was on "taxable income" after exemptions, deductions and credits. A person making $400K did not pay $372 in income taxes. Do you really think that a guy making 400K was living on 28K and giving the rest to the govt?
No, but here's the gag. The guy making 400K had to prove he was doing something productive with that money, not just sitting at the side of his pool eating caviar.
In short- doing their part and paying their fair share.
PAST TIME...NO ONE has the balls to bring the BOIKING up on charges.5 Ways Obama Has Trampled the Constitution:
Here are five of the Administration’s largest violations:
1. Changing Obamacare on the fly without congressional action
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act requires that businesses employing 50 or more full-time employees must provide health insurance or pay a fine per uncovered employee. The law schedules this mandate to begin in January 2014. Yet the Administration has already announced that it will put this requirement on hold.
Meanwhile, Congress explicitly considered and rejected proposed amendments to Obamacare that would have created a specific allowance for a congressional health insurance subsidy in the exchanges, and indeed, such an exemption is illegal. But the Administration told Members of Congress and their staffers that it would give them a generous taxpayer-funded subsidy just the same.
Obamacare won’t work as written, and the Administration is just seizing power unilaterally to rewrite it.
2. Implementing the DREAM Act by executive fiat
Congress has repeatedly considered, and rejected, a bill known as the Dream Act that would effectively grant amnesty to many illegal aliens. Yet in June 2012, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano issued a directive to immigration officials instructing them to defer deportation proceedings against an estimated 1.7 million illegal aliens. Oddly, this happened about a year after President Obama admitted that “the President doesn’t have the authority to simply ignore Congress and say, ‘We’re not going to enforce the laws you’ve passed.’”
3. Making “recess appointments” while the Senate was in session
In January 2012, President Obama made four “recess” appointments to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, claiming that the Senate was not available to confirm those appointees. Yet the Senate was not in recess at that time. The Recess Appointments Clause is not an alternative to Senate confirmation and is supposed to be only a stopgap for times when the Senate is unable to provide advice and consent. Eventually, a three-judge panel of the D.C. Circuit struck down the appointments to the NLRB as unconstitutional.
4. Waiving welfare work requirements
In July 2012, the Department of Health and Human Services gutted the work requirements out of the welfare reform law passed in 1996. It notified states of Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’s “willingness to exercise her waiver authority” so that states may eliminate the work participation requirement of Section 407 of the 1996 reforms. This flatly contradicts the law, which provides that waivers granted under other sections of the law “shall not affect the applicability of section 407 to the State.” Despite this unambiguous language, the Obama Administration continues to flout the law with its “revisionist” interpretation.
5. Encouraging federal contractors to violate the law
The WARN Act requires that federal contractors give 60 days’ notice before a mass layoff or plant closing. Employers who do not give notice are liable for employees’ back pay and benefits as well as additional penalties. With defense-related spending cuts set to start on January 2, 2013, defense contractors should have issued notice by November 2, 2012 (just four days before the presidential election). Yet, the Department of Labor instructed defense contractors not to issue notice for layoffs due to sequestration until after the election—and assured them they would be reimbursed with taxpayer funds for any subsequent liability for violating the law.
One of the Constitution’s strongest features is its simplicity. It doesn’t serve as a laundry list of rights, as many modern constitutions attempt to do. Instead, it lays out a governing framework, divides power among three co-equal branches, and protects Americans from having their rights usurped by an overreaching government.
5 Ways Obama Has Trampled the Constitution
Joe
please read this article, its a few years old but still accurate. It shows who pays the biggest share of taxes vs income. Please take the time to read it.
Guess Who Really Pays the Taxes ? The American Magazine
Hint: Joe can't read. Now, if you have crayon drawings...
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you are mixing your anger and envy of rich people with common sense. Yes, many CEOs make way too much, so do entertainers and athletes. Do you ever bitch about how much Jay Z makes? How about A-Rod?
I am glad to see that you are pissed about the obscene profits made by big pharma-------you do know that there is nothing in the ACA bill that will change that don't you?
Jay Z never killed anyone by denying her coverage AFTER her parents paid for it.
No, there are a LOT of problems ACA doesn't fix. But it does fix SOME of the problems.
Damn, man. grow up. there will always be a few examples of people getting screwed by insurance companies, I don't know about the case you are bring up, but if the company violated the terms of its policy then the people should hire a lawyer and sue them, there are hundreds of ambulance chasers that would take such a case.
my guess is that the company complied with the terms of the policy and the people failed to understand what they had paid for.
not saying it was right, but unless we know exactly what happened, we should not be making judgements.
