It's demand that drives the economy and other things Liberals get consistently wrong

[CrusaderFrank]

How many times have we heard the Progressive economic idea that demand drives the economy, so the best stimulus is to rob from the rich, redistribute some of that money (the government has to wet its beak) and viola! Demands get satisfied, economy grows, workers Paradise dead ahead!

But look at every economy running on this great Progressive idea: In Venezuela, they must have met all the demands for groceries, canned goods, toilet paper and all household items because there are none to be found; in Cuba, they must have meet all the demand for healthcare because their hospitals rewash surgical gloves; in Flint, they cannot even get potable drinking water, so the demand for drinking water must have been met. Progressives meet consumer demand with a one-fingered salute.

Does the USA have the world's #1 (or 2) economy) because we demand more than the rest? Can Progressives show me an economy that does not have demand? Is there a group of people on the planet that says, "Drinking water, TP, cars, yeah fuck it, don't need or want it"

 

[boevans]

But was it not demand after WWII with all that excessive dollars from the working and middle classes that drove the economy?

 

[rightwinger]

Production or expansion without demand is doomed to fail

 

[boevans]

You seem to be wanting to eat your cake and yet save it.

 

[Asclepias]

How many times have we heard the Progressive economic idea that demand drives the economy, so the best stimulus is to rob from the rich, redistribute some of that money (the government has to wet its beak) and viola! Demands get satisfied, economy grows, workers Paradise dead ahead!

But look at every economy running on this great Progressive idea: In Venezuela, they must have met all the demands for groceries, canned goods, toilet paper and all household items because there are none to be found; in Cuba, they must have meet all the demand for healthcare because their hospitals rewash surgical gloves; in Flint, they cannot even get potable drinking water, so the demand for drinking water must have been met. Progressives meet consumer demand with a one-fingered salute.

Does the USA have the world's #1 (or 2) economy) because we demand more than the rest? Can Progressives show me an economy that does not have demand? Is there a group of people on the planet that says, "Drinking water, TP, cars, yeah fuck it, don't need or want it"

So youre saying as a rep for the conservatives that if no one bought a car or a house, or clothes etc the economy would prosper?

 

[Jomama]

Frank, I'm an entrepreneur and you're not so I have low expectations of your ability to understand these things. Let me try this way of explaining; I'd rather arrive on a semi-fertile planet with starving people than an abundantly fertile planet with very few people. I make a living supplying demand. You, well you're probably just a wage slave.

The biggest problem us entrepreneurs have is a restrictive and bureaucratic government run by politicians, elected by morons - none of which have ever signed the front of a paycheck.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

But was it not demand after WWII with all that excessive dollars from the working and middle classes that drove the economy?

Do people still wonder why every single Progressive economy ends in ruins and misery?

The USA has $13 Trillion in "excess dollars" these past 8 years from both the Federal government and the Federal Reserve. If the economy worked as you dreamed poverty would have been eliminated in 2010.

"Excess dollars" are destroying the Japanese, Chinese and EU economies, it will end in world war

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Production or expansion without demand is doomed to fail

Right, that's why China is imploding. They followed the Progressive dictum of paying people to do uneconomic things, like building entire cities with no inhabitants, and they will end very badly and will likely start a war as they end

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank, I'm an entrepreneur and you're not so I have low expectations of your ability to understand these things. Let me try this way of explaining; I'd rather arrive on a semi-fertile planet with starving people than an abundantly fertile planet with very few people. I make a living supplying demand. You, well you're probably just a wage slave.

The biggest problem us entrepreneurs have is a restrictive and bureaucratic government run by politicians, elected by morons - none of which have ever signed the front of a paycheck.

You make a living supplying demand, right. You don't invent or imagine demand, you deliver to a demand that's there. Please reread the OP since you clearly missed it

 

[CrusaderFrank]

How many times have we heard the Progressive economic idea that demand drives the economy, so the best stimulus is to rob from the rich, redistribute some of that money (the government has to wet its beak) and viola! Demands get satisfied, economy grows, workers Paradise dead ahead!

But look at every economy running on this great Progressive idea: In Venezuela, they must have met all the demands for groceries, canned goods, toilet paper and all household items because there are none to be found; in Cuba, they must have meet all the demand for healthcare because their hospitals rewash surgical gloves; in Flint, they cannot even get potable drinking water, so the demand for drinking water must have been met. Progressives meet consumer demand with a one-fingered salute.

Does the USA have the world's #1 (or 2) economy) because we demand more than the rest? Can Progressives show me an economy that does not have demand? Is there a group of people on the planet that says, "Drinking water, TP, cars, yeah fuck it, don't need or want it"

So youre saying as a rep for the conservatives that if no one bought a car or a house, or clothes etc the economy would prosper?

No, don't people the world over demand housing and transportation? Yet, why is, or was, the USA the world's number 1 economy?

 

[Asclepias]

Frank, I'm an entrepreneur and you're not so I have low expectations of your ability to understand these things. Let me try this way of explaining; I'd rather arrive on a semi-fertile planet with starving people than an abundantly fertile planet with very few people. I make a living supplying demand. You, well you're probably just a wage slave.

The biggest problem us entrepreneurs have is a restrictive and bureaucratic government run by politicians, elected by morons - none of which have ever signed the front of a paycheck.

You make a living supplying demand, right. You don't invent or imagine demand, you deliver to a demand that's there. Please reread the OP since you clearly missed it

Even if that made sense your wrong. Of course you can invent or create demand. Every heard of the pet rock?

 

[Asclepias]

How many times have we heard the Progressive economic idea that demand drives the economy, so the best stimulus is to rob from the rich, redistribute some of that money (the government has to wet its beak) and viola! Demands get satisfied, economy grows, workers Paradise dead ahead!

But look at every economy running on this great Progressive idea: In Venezuela, they must have met all the demands for groceries, canned goods, toilet paper and all household items because there are none to be found; in Cuba, they must have meet all the demand for healthcare because their hospitals rewash surgical gloves; in Flint, they cannot even get potable drinking water, so the demand for drinking water must have been met. Progressives meet consumer demand with a one-fingered salute.

Does the USA have the world's #1 (or 2) economy) because we demand more than the rest? Can Progressives show me an economy that does not have demand? Is there a group of people on the planet that says, "Drinking water, TP, cars, yeah fuck it, don't need or want it"

So youre saying as a rep for the conservatives that if no one bought a car or a house, or clothes etc the economy would prosper?

No, don't people the world over demand housing and transportation? Yet, why is, or was, the USA the world's number 1 economy?

Do you mean no the economy would not prosper or are you deflecting?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank, I'm an entrepreneur and you're not so I have low expectations of your ability to understand these things. Let me try this way of explaining; I'd rather arrive on a semi-fertile planet with starving people than an abundantly fertile planet with very few people. I make a living supplying demand. You, well you're probably just a wage slave.

The biggest problem us entrepreneurs have is a restrictive and bureaucratic government run by politicians, elected by morons - none of which have ever signed the front of a paycheck.

You make a living supplying demand, right. You don't invent or imagine demand, you deliver to a demand that's there. Please reread the OP since you clearly missed it

Even if that made sense your wrong. Of course you can invent or create demand. Every heard of the pet rock?

What are they worth today? It's like the empty cities in China, they cost a fortune to build but what are they worth today? 2 cents on the dollar?

Compared that to a truly useful consumer product like a smart phone or Italian leather shoes, there's demand for them too but it's based in reality and true free market economic activity

 

[CrusaderFrank]

How many times have we heard the Progressive economic idea that demand drives the economy, so the best stimulus is to rob from the rich, redistribute some of that money (the government has to wet its beak) and viola! Demands get satisfied, economy grows, workers Paradise dead ahead!

But look at every economy running on this great Progressive idea: In Venezuela, they must have met all the demands for groceries, canned goods, toilet paper and all household items because there are none to be found; in Cuba, they must have meet all the demand for healthcare because their hospitals rewash surgical gloves; in Flint, they cannot even get potable drinking water, so the demand for drinking water must have been met. Progressives meet consumer demand with a one-fingered salute.

Does the USA have the world's #1 (or 2) economy) because we demand more than the rest? Can Progressives show me an economy that does not have demand? Is there a group of people on the planet that says, "Drinking water, TP, cars, yeah fuck it, don't need or want it"

So youre saying as a rep for the conservatives that if no one bought a car or a house, or clothes etc the economy would prosper?

No, don't people the world over demand housing and transportation? Yet, why is, or was, the USA the world's number 1 economy?

Do you mean no the economy would not prosper or are you deflecting?

I mean true prosperity comes from Free Market activity, with as little government involvement as humanly possible. The "give them credit and the economy will prosper" model we're living now will end and will end very badly

 

[Asclepias]

Frank, I'm an entrepreneur and you're not so I have low expectations of your ability to understand these things. Let me try this way of explaining; I'd rather arrive on a semi-fertile planet with starving people than an abundantly fertile planet with very few people. I make a living supplying demand. You, well you're probably just a wage slave.

The biggest problem us entrepreneurs have is a restrictive and bureaucratic government run by politicians, elected by morons - none of which have ever signed the front of a paycheck.

You make a living supplying demand, right. You don't invent or imagine demand, you deliver to a demand that's there. Please reread the OP since you clearly missed it

Even if that made sense your wrong. Of course you can invent or create demand. Every heard of the pet rock?

What are they worth today? It's like the empty cities in China, they cost a fortune to build but what are they worth today? 2 cents on the dollar?

Compared that to a truly useful consumer product like a smart phone or Italian leather shoes, there's demand for them too but it's based in reality and true free market economic activity

We arent talking about worth. Were talking about demand. Dont deflect on your own thread.

 

[Asclepias]

How many times have we heard the Progressive economic idea that demand drives the economy, so the best stimulus is to rob from the rich, redistribute some of that money (the government has to wet its beak) and viola! Demands get satisfied, economy grows, workers Paradise dead ahead!

But look at every economy running on this great Progressive idea: In Venezuela, they must have met all the demands for groceries, canned goods, toilet paper and all household items because there are none to be found; in Cuba, they must have meet all the demand for healthcare because their hospitals rewash surgical gloves; in Flint, they cannot even get potable drinking water, so the demand for drinking water must have been met. Progressives meet consumer demand with a one-fingered salute.

Does the USA have the world's #1 (or 2) economy) because we demand more than the rest? Can Progressives show me an economy that does not have demand? Is there a group of people on the planet that says, "Drinking water, TP, cars, yeah fuck it, don't need or want it"

So youre saying as a rep for the conservatives that if no one bought a car or a house, or clothes etc the economy would prosper?

No, don't people the world over demand housing and transportation? Yet, why is, or was, the USA the world's number 1 economy?

Do you mean no the economy would not prosper or are you deflecting?

I mean true prosperity comes from Free Market activity, with as little government involvement as humanly possible. The "give them credit and the economy will prosper" model we're living now will end and will end very badly

So you admit you are deflecting instead of answering the question posed. Got it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank, I'm an entrepreneur and you're not so I have low expectations of your ability to understand these things. Let me try this way of explaining; I'd rather arrive on a semi-fertile planet with starving people than an abundantly fertile planet with very few people. I make a living supplying demand. You, well you're probably just a wage slave.

The biggest problem us entrepreneurs have is a restrictive and bureaucratic government run by politicians, elected by morons - none of which have ever signed the front of a paycheck.

You make a living supplying demand, right. You don't invent or imagine demand, you deliver to a demand that's there. Please reread the OP since you clearly missed it

Even if that made sense your wrong. Of course you can invent or create demand. Every heard of the pet rock?

What are they worth today? It's like the empty cities in China, they cost a fortune to build but what are they worth today? 2 cents on the dollar?

Compared that to a truly useful consumer product like a smart phone or Italian leather shoes, there's demand for them too but it's based in reality and true free market economic activity

We arent talking about worth. Were talking about demand. Dont deflect on your own thread.

If you're not talking about worth and value then you don't understand demand

 

[mamooth]

How many times have we heard the Progressive economic idea that demand drives the economy, so the best stimulus is to rob from the rich, redistribute some of that money (the government has to wet its beak) and viola! Demands get satisfied, economy grows, workers Paradise dead ahead!

Never. You're making up a strawman again, because you're too chicken to address what liberals actually say.

But look at every economy running on this great Progressive idea:

Have you noticed how the US economy booms under Democratic administrations, and tanks under Republicans? The worst Democrat (Carter) had a better job creation record than the best Republican (Reagan).

Have you noticed how the economy has tanked hard in every state that tried to implement supply-side austerity programs?

Voters have noticed, which is why they'll be rejecting your supply-side fantasies. You can't argue with success, but we know you'll keep trying. Or at a minimum, you'll try to deflect by talking about your favorite topic, socialism.

 

[Asclepias]

Frank, I'm an entrepreneur and you're not so I have low expectations of your ability to understand these things. Let me try this way of explaining; I'd rather arrive on a semi-fertile planet with starving people than an abundantly fertile planet with very few people. I make a living supplying demand. You, well you're probably just a wage slave.

The biggest problem us entrepreneurs have is a restrictive and bureaucratic government run by politicians, elected by morons - none of which have ever signed the front of a paycheck.

You make a living supplying demand, right. You don't invent or imagine demand, you deliver to a demand that's there. Please reread the OP since you clearly missed it

Even if that made sense your wrong. Of course you can invent or create demand. Every heard of the pet rock?

What are they worth today? It's like the empty cities in China, they cost a fortune to build but what are they worth today? 2 cents on the dollar?

Compared that to a truly useful consumer product like a smart phone or Italian leather shoes, there's demand for them too but it's based in reality and true free market economic activity

We arent talking about worth. Were talking about demand. Dont deflect on your own thread.

If you're not talking about worth and value then you don't understand demand

You can understand something without talking about it. You fail.

 

[Asclepias]

How many times have we heard the Progressive economic idea that demand drives the economy, so the best stimulus is to rob from the rich, redistribute some of that money (the government has to wet its beak) and viola! Demands get satisfied, economy grows, workers Paradise dead ahead!

Never. You're making up a strawman again, because you're too chicken to address what liberals actually say.

But look at every economy running on this great Progressive idea:

Have you noticed how the US economy booms under Democratic administrations, and tanks under Republicans? The worst Democrat (Carter) had a better job creation record than the best Republican (Reagan).

Have you noticed how the economy has tanked hard in every state that tried to implement supply-side austerity programs?

Voters have noticed, which is why they'll be rejecting your supply-side fantasies. You can't argue with success, but we know you'll keep trying. Or at a minimum, you'll try to deflect by talking about your favorite topic, socialism.

His point of view is ludicrous inane babble and shows a serious lack of education regarding economics.