Luigi Mangione versus United Healthcare

[Billiejeens]

I was actually referring to cops shooting a black person that didnt deserve to die.

Which literally almost never happens.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

courts

What crime did this CEO commit that deserves an inhumane death penalty?

 

[kyzr]

Cars and guns kill people… You going to go murder the CEO of Ford?
You radical leftists are audaciously messed up. Get over yourself

Stupid analogy. (cars & guns)
Criminals who deliberately kill people deserve death, you bleeding heart conservatives make me sick.

 

[kyzr]

What crime did this CEO commit that deserves an inhumane death penalty?

Deliberately denying healthcare and someone dies from that denial is murder? Manslaughter? Depends on circumstances.
The perps hide behind their new AI programs that do the denying.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I was actually referring to cops shooting a black person that didnt deserve to die.

Only like 15 unarmed blacks die a year.. which of course is tragic when it happens but cop-citizen misunderstandings will inevitably happen among all populations and races, and they do. Unfortunately, the black community has a culture that encourages noncompliance to police orders, so there will be more tragedies.

you don’t care at all about the non-black ones, and I doubt you even care about the black ones genuinely.

But I see how you shifted the language/goal posts with vagueness… and use the word “deserve”… it’s cowardly. You’ll oddly go to Great rhetorical lengths to avoid just condemning this assassination. It says a lot

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Stupid analogy. (cars & guns)
Criminals who deliberately kill people deserve death, you bleeding heart conservatives make me sick.

You’re the one who said that if what someone does results in people dying deserves to be killed…

The CEO didn’t deliberately kill anyone. He wasn’t on the ground, treating patients, and ordering grandma to not be given things. That’s a fact.

 

[TNHarley]

you don’t care at all about the non-black ones

Lol amazing insight. Mind reader?

and I doubt you even care about the black ones genuinely

and again, amazing insight! Mind reader?

I always care about the government killing its people undeservingly. See, im not a boot licker. Thats probably why

I have condemned this murder. Multiple times. All I was saying is, its just another murder. No one even knows the guy but it is all anyone is talking about. I simply dont give a shit. Lock the dude up and shut up about it. Murder is a normal thing in this world.

 

[kyzr]

You’re the one who said that if what someone does results in people dying deserves to be killed…

The CEO didn’t deliberately kill anyone. He wasn’t on the ground, treating patients, and ordering grandma to not be given things. That’s a fact.

1. Fix your first sentence to "what someone deliberately does"
2. The CEO setup the AI system to illegally maximize profits at the expense of lives. That is a fact.

 

[TNHarley]

The CEO setup the system to maximize profits at the expense of lives.

Doing what he was told.
Why not go after his bosses, the board? They are the ones that made him do it. Their 100M dollar yachts depend on it.

 

[Arlette]

What crime did this CEO commit that deserves an inhumane death penalty?

Greed. It's a deadly sin.

 

[kyzr]

Doing what he was told.
Why not go after his bosses, the board? They are the ones that made him do it. Their 100M dollar yachts depend on it.

Not sure who actually made the call on setting policy.
I doubt the Board gets into the weeds of AI policy programming.
The Board sees the profits rolling in and says here's your bonus.

A better question now is, will the board punish anyone for denying healthcare to those who rightfully paid for it?

 

[TNHarley]

Not sure who actually made the call on setting policy.
I doubt the Board gets into the weeds of AI policy programming.
The Board sees the profits rolling in and says here's your bonus.

A better question now is, will the board punish anyone for denying healthcare to those who rightfully paid for it?

I seriously doubt it lol. Why would they?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Murder is a normal thing in this world.

Indeed, but that’s not the point.

The point is that mobs of people in open “acceptable” society are praising the murder as good, righteous, and necessary.

That’s the issue. Doing such is horribly immoral. That’s what I, and many non radical leftists, are saying

 

[Mr. Friscus]

1. Fix your first sentence to "what someone deliberately does"
2. The CEO setup the AI system to illegally maximize profits at the expense of lives. That is a fact.

Again, if you’re going to equate shallow business decisions to shooting someone in the head… you have a massive list of CEO’s in many fields that you ought to desire to be murdered.

It’s just dumb logic by you. Murder is the murderer (point A) who personally pulls the trigger and kills (point B). What you’re describing is the CEO (point A) to point F, with tons of things between. It’s not remotely the same.. you just allow your anger and emotions to try to take mental shortcuts that don’t hold up at all.

You’re like the “Trump will kill us and lock us in prison and will end democracy” crowd.. hyperbolic and void of reason.

 

[kyzr]

Again, if you’re going to equate shallow business decisions to shooting someone in the head… you have a massive list of CEO’s in many fields that you ought to desire to be murdered.
It’s just dumb logic by you. Murder is the murderer (point A) who personally pulls the trigger and kills (point B). What you’re describing is the CEO (point A) to point F, with tons of things between. It’s not remotely the same.. you just allow your anger and emotions to try to take mental shortcuts that don’t hold up at all.
You’re like the “Trump will kill us and lock us in prison and will end democracy” crowd.. hyperbolic and void of reason.

You can give the crooks a pass, if they get bullets in the head, so much the better.
These aren't "shallow business decisions" these are killing people by denying healthcare for profit.
If government regulated the healthcare industry properly there would be no urgent issue.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You can give the crooks a pass, if they get bullets in the head, so much the better.
These aren't "shallow business decisions" these are killing people by denying healthcare for profit.
If government regulated the healthcare industry properly there would be no urgent issue.

Health care isn’t a god given right.

The right to not be shot in the back of the head by another citizen because they disagree with you, is.

That ends anything you have to say

 

[kyzr]

Health care isn’t a god given right.
The right to not be shot in the back of the head by another citizen because they disagree with you, is.
That ends anything you have to say

We are discussing paying for healthcare and not receiving it, and the consequences of not receiving it because of the profit motive.
Some people take offense at being ripped-off. Others get outraged if a loved one dies because of greedy corporations.
Shit happens when people get angry, things no one can control or predict.
In the old days "the customer is always right" was a better business approach.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Some people take offense at being ripped-off.

That’s doesn’t give them the right to murder, nor should anyone celebrate someone who does

End of story. Case closed

 

[Nate99]

Some people take offense at being ripped-off. Others get outraged if a loved one dies because of greedy corporations.

Well...the UHC CEO made 10 million per year. UHC has about 50 million clients. Even if this poor guy had donated his whole year's salary to the company...that would have amounted to about twenty cents per client.

It's very difficult for me to believe that an ivy leaguer overlooked that.

 

[OKTexas]

WE THE PEOPLE adamantly object to using violence to resolve issues specially when the same affect Conservatives as well as leftwingers. I believe the federal courts could have easily dispose of the issues by finding that United Healthcare and all Medicare Advantage providers are equally culpable. While the Biden Administration claimed to be pro Medicare recipients his CMS refused to help Medicare recipients. This thread will show that insiders are claiming that :

Healthcare CEO Brags About Stealing From Taxpayers​

Luigi Mangione wasn't on Medicare advantage and would have nothing to do with your video.

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