Luigi Mangione versus United Healthcare

[OldFlame]

Doing what he was told.
Why not go after his bosses, the board? They are the ones that made him do it. Their 100M dollar yachts depend on it.

Why not go all the way to the head of the snake, the corrupt pos politicians that line their pockets with bribes to keep the insurance companies unregulated and for profit entities.

 

[OldFlame]

You can give the crooks a pass, if they get bullets in the head, so much the better.
These aren't "shallow business decisions" these are killing people by denying healthcare for profit.
If government regulated the healthcare industry properly there would be no urgent issue.

Bingo! They're compensated very well to make sure that doesn't happen. They are the problem.

 

[Contumacious]

Luigi Mangione wasn't on Medicare advantage and would have nothing to do with your video.

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I realize that he is too young for Medicare Advantage but the issues he raised - the arbitrary denial of claims , etc - constitute a common denominator,

 

[Contumacious]

If government regulated the healthcare industry properly there would be no urgent issue.

Bingo.

Joe BuyThem's CMS favored the Insurance Companies.

 

[Arlette]

Indeed, but that’s not the point.

The point is that mobs of people in open “acceptable” society are praising the murder as good, righteous, and necessary.

That’s the issue. Doing such is horribly immoral. That’s what I, and many non radical leftists, are saying

So what? Many say otherwise.

 

[OKTexas]

I realize that he is too young for Medicare Advantage but the issues he raised - the arbitrary denial of claims , etc - constitute a common denominator,

It's not unique to Medicare Advantage or regular health insurance. My wife is on regular Medicare and you won't believe how hard it is to get bloodwork paid for. I wind up paying more for that per year, than her medications. If Medicare denies it, Tri Care denies it.

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[initforme]

It seems healthcare has moved to a top concern. It's way past time the greatest awash with money country on earth figure out healthcare. It's sad we havent.

 

[petro]

The choice is some private insurers denying your claims or a government official doing it.

The notion of some rich entitled kid who never had to worry about the cost of heathcare, who wasn't a customer of United Health, and who most likely never even knew a person denied care is beyond ridiculous.

The kid is a cowardly murderer who shot someone in the back.
Nothing heroic about that no matter how big a douche the CEO was.

 

[initforme]

The choice is some private insurers denying your claims or a government official doing it.

The notion of some rich entitled kid who never had to worry about the cost of heathcare, who wasn't a customer of United Health, and who most likely never even knew a person denied care is beyond ridiculous.

The kid is a cowardly murderer who shot someone in the back.
Nothing heroic about that no matter how big a douche the CEO was.

Why should either be allowed to deny legit claims? Please explain this. And you are correct hurting someone or worse is wrong wrong wrong. All that said healthcare has moved to top concerns as it should be. We are awash in money.

 

[petro]

Why should either be allowed to deny legit claims? Please explain this. And you are correct hurting someone or worse is wrong wrong wrong. All that said healthcare has moved to top concerns as it should be. We are awash in money.

We are about 35 trillion in debt with a large portion of government expenditures just servicing the interest on that debt.
We are hardly awash in money and are teetering on the edge of complete failure of our fiat currency.

The fact is that someone getting a million dollars worth of lifesaving treatment never paid that amount in premiums. It is dependent on healthy people paying premiums and not using that care. Same would go for a government run system which would be more inefficient and deny more claims than a private entity.

Healthcare like it or not is a for profit service industry. It frankly isn't a right. No one is required to save someone else from their own poor choices.
From the top doctors down to the medical tech taking your blood, these people invest a lot in their education, corporations spend a lot in research and investment in technology.
The doctors live in the very same neighborhoods as the CEO did, in multi million dollar homes. Do you really think they have any interest in taking a major paycut and give their service out of their concern for humanity?

The same goes for those claiming housing is a right. I don't build houses out of the goodness of my heart, but to make a profit for myself while providing a product that people are willing to pay for. We don't even try to build affordable housing because the margins are so slim we would effectively be donating our time and money.
Thank government fees, regulations, taxes, and unrealistic mandates on that.

The exact same thing would happen to healthcare if government ran it. There would be far more denials.

 

[initforme]

We are about 35 trillion in debt with a large portion of government expenditures just servicing the interest on that debt.
We are hardly awash in money and are teetering on the edge of complete failure of our fiat currency.

The fact is that someone getting a million dollars worth of lifesaving treatment never paid that amount in premiums. It is dependent on healthy people paying premiums and not using that care. Same would go for a government run system which would be more inefficient and deny more claims than a private entity.

Healthcare like it or not is a for profit service industry. It frankly isn't a right. No one is required to save someone else from their own poor choices.
From the top doctors down to the medical tech taking your blood, these people invest a lot in their education, corporations spend a lot in research and investment in technology.
The doctors live in the very same neighborhoods as the CEO did, in multi million dollar homes. Do you really think they have any interest in taking a major paycut and give their service out of their concern for humanity?

The same goes for those claiming housing is a right. I don't build houses out of the goodness of my heart, but to make a profit for myself while providing a product that people are willing to pay for. We don't even try to build affordable housing because the margins are so slim we would effectively be donating our time and money.
Thank government fees, regulations, taxes, and unrealistic mandates on that.

The exact same thing would happen to healthcare if government ran it. There would be far more denials.

Except for outlandish claims denials for necessary services should be paid. It is that easy.

 

[Contumacious]

It's not unique to Medicare Advantage or regular health insurance. My wife is on regular Medicare and you won't believe how hard it is to get bloodwork paid for. I wind up paying more for that per year, than her medications. If Medicare denies it, Tri Care denies it.

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It used to be that with their well woman visits-physical exams they used to pay for basic blood work once a year - BUT NO LONGER - Explanation : NONE